Luke84 7 | 113 10 Feb 2016 #1Hello Everybody,I didn't know if this will be under life or under workI never mentioned before on this forum about my "Polish venture", this is (or maybe was) more for my wife so she can do something while she is in home. Long story short - my father in law is a bus driver and he have registered company, I was asking around on what is the best option to invest some money in Poland, I wanted to buy a small flat to rent however we decided to be more aggressive on risk and we purchased a.... bus - yes that is right, small bus for 30 people, which is fairly new (for a bus of course - 10 years old), with aircon, DVD, 2x TV, etc etc...We spent in region of 100k PLN for a bus and monthly we need to pay for things like ZUS, accountant (this is cheap to be fair), insurance cost about 5K PLN per year, and there is some tax for transport which is 2K per year, of course this vehicle wasn't 100% perfect as previous owners just used it 100% and didn't invested anything so we had to swallow all of these costs to make it nice - that was an extra 30K PLN, anyway after this expense we had a working vehicle, some advertising, etc etcNow to the point... I really don't understand on how people make money in Poland - simply cannot understand that.PRICE Our price is 2.50PLN/1km if you take it for minimum of 150km and during one day! This price is super cheap anyway (others quote min 3.50PLN, we are able to offer lower rates as this is family business so father in law is our driver, fuel consumption is pretty low, perhaps because it's not so old and engine is not massive - it is around 17l/100km), of course weddings cost a bit more as driver usually need to go there and stay overnightCUSTOMER Our customers are usually schools, travel agencies, wedding & funeral clients, small companies or individuals who wants to go skiing for a weekend etc. Price is very good anyway.ADVERTISING This is covered nicely through Google, Facebook, local newspapers, wife even visited all schools/travel agencies/churches in the region of 20km so we have done all there.Now I'm not sure what is wrong but something clearly must be wrong - there is not a lot of phone calls, and there is occasional moaning about the price, today someone called about the wedding transport for 30people, and he thought that he will pay 150PLN for that (30km each way), so he thought that we will put the fuel which will cost around 45PLN, driver will have to take 150PLN (this is two days), and we need to pay viatoll which would be around 10PLN, so costs are 205PLN.I have no idea on how people are making legit business in Poland. We have that since November and I know season didn't started yet but I'm already thinking of ceasing that company, there is also other stuff going through my mind at the moment. I just cannot see that country as a place when you can live and work normally! I didn't expected to have a lot from this business. I wanted a net pay (which would be for my wife) in the region of tiny Polish wage so let say 1800PLN per month! Monthly expenses towards that business are in region of 2400PLN (that cover ZUS, accountant, transport tax, car maintenance, insurance) so we need to make 4200 in average per month to be worth keeping it...Anyone of you doing some business in Poland? How successful is it? Am I wrong thinking this country sucks? People behavior is really strange here, they expect everyone to do them a favour and they hope to pay minimum for anything but if you need someone from Pole, they want to become a one time millionaire - doesn't matter if it is a tradesman, insurance man, builder, car painter, etc - they all want maximum from you!I'm now in a stage of thinking if this is a country I want to stay in. I'm 32, my wife is 31, we have one child (1.5year) and I just cannot see a feature in that country... I also worry that child will grow up observing all of these unhappy people who are moaning about life every day...How are you doing?