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OP gleite 6 | 38
28 Jan 2010 #31
dnz
This particular moment, investing in Poland. Working as well. But I have my connections and family in Brazil.

Something specific you are looking for ?

Can see a lot of frustration here... I know as well that the crisis has also some part on this frustration. However, we should think that now is the moment, before the Euro comes. Whenever it happens, if the situation is considered bad, believe me , it will worsen.

Anyone here has experience into importing/exporting in Poland, please contact me in PM. I will be soon representing a company and I need to bring them some useful information. Any help will be very appreciated. Tks!
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #32
DNZ

Why are you here?I bet you are Brit.Your bi-faced nation cannot be trusted.Liars, liars,liars.I know I spent 10 years in this f...ng country and hate it so much, mostly for it is full of liars, dirty,depressing shithole (quality of the buildings much worse than in Poland).Poles are honest and always show off their feelings (that is why ice cold english liar doesn't feel comfortable).Just simply because you were taught to hide your true feelings in the name of political coretness.Sad true is that brits HATE everything and everyone that isn't brittish.But they simply can't say that,so they lie about equality, contempting every foreigner.

I spent there 10 years, and I came here cause I simply couldn't take it anymore (although I cannot find a job more than a year-I feel better here).So here is my advice - if you dislike Poland so much get your fat english ass out of here and never come back.

Didn't mean to offend anyone.This is my personal oppinion and I agree that it is very partial.
Witold
jonni 16 | 2,485
3 Feb 2010 #33
vtec2710

Actually the poster isn't British.

But. If the spiteful tone of your post is anything to go by, it's frankly no wonder you failed in the UK.

Up to a million Poles have gone there, many carry out business, most are satisfied.
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #34
jonni

You made me lough so much.
I was well off in Britain.I had wonderfull job ( I have even thanksgiving letters from ITV1 - for taking a part in tonight with Trevor mcDonald ),I was successfull there.My wife was making a career there also.But when we realised she is pregnant, i decided "no more".I didn't want my child to grow up with "the future of the english nation".It is here where I failed.I haven't got the job for more than a year now, my wife also,but we feel much better now. England is much easier to live, I agree.But also the prostitution is an easy way of life, but my conscience does not let me do it.
jonni 16 | 2,485
3 Feb 2010 #35
I haven't got the job for more than a year now, my wife also,

This says a lot. How are you supporting yourself?
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #36
We have a limousine bussiness which is only weekend job ( no more than 3 hrs/week this time and around 10 hrs/week summertime ) as you see you cannot call it a propper job, fortunatelly it is enough to pay the bills and go out to the pub once a week.

So this is still the bad point of Poland-it is not easy to get a job here.So I think about emigration to Canada where my mum lives for years.I suppose I will find there "the best of both worlds"

jonni
my spiteful tone was a form of expression- I really didn't mean to offend anyone.As you probably know we Poles suffer from inferiority complex.Regardless what we do, how much we try we have the black P.R. everywhere.Look at "the sun" and "the mirror" at least twice a week you can read how britain suffers because of Poles.I know about our national disadvantages but I do not want to hear attacks for us anymore (I had my mouth shut when I was in Brittain -but sorry this is my homeland-I have enough).

another thing
"Up to a million Poles have gone there, many carry out business, most are satisfied" -yes it is true but remember 3/4 of them are the people of 2nd cattegory for brits.Trust me I know what I am talking about.I helped a lot of Poles there, and I know the stories.After 10 years I became more bitter and bitter there everyday.
Harry
3 Feb 2010 #37
As you probably know we Poles suffer from inferiority complex. Regardless what we do, how much we try we have the black P.R. everywhere.

I do find it amusing how so many Poles believe that they are important and/or well known enough for people in other countries to give a sh!t about them either way.
jonni 16 | 2,485
3 Feb 2010 #38
Look at "the sun" and "the mirror" at least twice a week you can read how britain suffers because of Poles

Remember that a million Poles turned up in the space of a couple of years. Probably the most dramatic peacetime migration in the history of humanity.

Many are going to have a good time, any are going to have a bad time. Most somewhere in between. If the tabloid media react, nobody can complain. Imagine if the situation was reversed - a million Brits moving to Poland in the space of three or four years!
convex 20 | 3,978
3 Feb 2010 #39
Imagine if the situation was reversed - a million Brits moving to Poland in the space of three or four years!

Better yet, a million egyptians...or indians...or chinese.
matteroftaste
3 Feb 2010 #40
rent,

are you sure about that? It's not what I've observed when I was in Poland.
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #41
Harry your post shows that you do not read english press.

I somehow understand your point of view jonny but you wouldn't take a 5 quid p.h kitchen porter job, even if you were unemployed for years, would you??

90 % of poles abroad does the worst, low paid jobs.They pay taxes and rarely claim any benefits.
Theese are the facts.

Imagine the different situation - all poles come back home.Brittain would be paralised with tons of uncollected rubbish,undelivered parcels,unfinished building works, closed caffees,chicken shops etc.I pray to lord for this situation to come - so Britain would be so beautifull and happy place.There would be only one problem - national budget stretched up to the limits paying for muslims and blacks and jewish (they all have 8 children avg. free house from the borough, don't have to pay the bills, and never willing for any work).Good luck Britain.Get rid of all Poles.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,726
3 Feb 2010 #42
Harry your post shows that you do not read english press.

I very much doubt he reads the gutter press, so he's right.
jonni 16 | 2,485
3 Feb 2010 #43
but you wouldn't take a 5 quid p.h kitchen porter job, even if you were unemployed for years, would you??

If there were no unemployent benefits, yes.

90 % of poles abroad does the worst, low paid jobs

My dentist, doctor and bank manager are all Polish. Plus the local Anglican parish priest!

They pay taxes and rarely claim any benefits.

I think you'll find that tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of Poles claim UK benefits. According to official figures.

[quote-vtec2710]national budget stretched up to the limits paying for muslims and blacks and jewish (they all have 8 children avg. free house from the borough, don't have to pay the bills, and never willing for any work).[/quote]

It had to come, sooner or later...

blacks..... (they all have 8 children

Have you met many blacks with 8 children?

jewish (they all have 8 children avg. free house from the borough

Have you ever met a Jewish person living in a "free house from the borough"?
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #44
the gutter press rules in england.
"the sun","the mirror","daily mail","news of the world" they are most read in Brittain.

Have you ever met a Jewish person living in a "free house from the borough"?
yes I have lots.I know their adresses as well
jonni 16 | 2,485
3 Feb 2010 #45
the gutter press rules in england.
"the sun","the mirror","daily mail","news of the world" they are most read in Brittain.

I think you'll find the tabloids sell well here in Poland too.

yes I have lots.I know their adresses as well

Why would you want to know such addresses?

As for doing moving a business here to Poland, one benefit is that there's a substantial and settled expatriate community with a huge skills base and substantial experience of foreign business cultures.
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #46
you asked me wether I had met Jewish people living in the house fro borough.So I answered yes.And I have been lots of times in each house.So logical result of that is that I KNOW THE ADRESSES.I have dealt with hundreds of customers during my stay in britain.Lots of english, jewish,muslims and indian.And yes most of their adresses I still remember.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,726
3 Feb 2010 #47
It had to come, sooner or later...

Not really a surprise, is it?

"Bitter Pole leaves Britain to become unemployed in Poland; too many immigrants cited as reason"

Could be a nice American headline!
vtec2710
3 Feb 2010 #48
Once you are beeing sarcastic at least read my posts carefully,please.
BellaBella - | 1
7 Jun 2010 #49
Hi everyone, I have been thinking about building a small hotel at the seaside near Gdansk. I speak fluent Polish, but know nothing about the business environment there.

For the price of my UK house I could get the land + get the thing built, but am a bit concerned about the taxes. One of you mentioned social tax, could you please elaborate?

Also someone said that tax has to be paid even when company makes a loss. Isn’t tax in Poland paid on profits? As you can see any advice and information you could give me would be highly appreciated.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,726
7 Jun 2010 #50
One of you mentioned social tax, could you please elaborate?

As a self employed person, you have a mandatory tax of 350PLN a month to pay in the first two years, then around 850PLN a month after that. It isn't applicable if the business is limited liability, however.

Otherwise, the employer contribution to social taxes is around 20% of gross salary - but it's quite normal for businesses to dodge paying social taxes by hiring people under "umowa o dzielo".

Also someone said that tax has to be paid even when company makes a loss. Isn’t tax in Poland paid on profits?

The social tax (ZUS) must be paid irrespective of profits for a self employed person. It's a bit of a bastard, but on the other hand - if your hotel only operates 6 months a year, then you can "hang up" the company during dead months and not pay a thing in social taxes.
tdmoggy
16 Sep 2010 #51
I need help and advice from people knowleage-able of Polish Business. we are a UK business based in Nottingham. We ordered a consignment of second hand shoes from a polish recycling company and sent them a 50% deposit, on behalf of our African customer. The customer who we are supplying unfortunately canceled the order within 2 weeks, so we informed the polish supplier to also cancel our order since it has not been delivered. They are now refusing to refund our deposit and insist we must complete the order.

1) What can we do to get our money back?
2) Have we broken polish law by canceling an order that has not been delivered?.
3) We have checked the invoice from Polish company, and it does not say anything about loosing one's deposit if an order is canceled.

We are the more surprised at their attitude as we have previously ordered from the same company. Please any advice will be welcome.

tnx
tdm
Wroclaw Boy
16 Sep 2010 #52
tdmoggy

In my opinion youre at fault, you shouldnt have fronted the payment without 100% backing from your end user.
convex 20 | 3,978
16 Sep 2010 #53
I need help and advice from people knowleage-able of Polish Business. we are a UK business based in Nottingham.

Contact a Polish lawyer... What were the terms of the deposit? Most call for forfeiture of the deposit if the order is canceled for any reason. If that is the case, you're absolutely screwed. Theoretically your African customer could have went to the Polish company directly if you didn't have any agreements in place. The Polish company would make money selling the shoes, and taking your deposit...it'd all be perfectly legal.
tdmoggy
16 Sep 2010 #54
The terms of the invoice did not specify any loss of deposit whatsoever. Also, this is a company we have dealt with before.
shobhit
26 Nov 2010 #55
hello i m shobhit jain from india jaipur and i have an pickle business here and i want to do the business in polland i hope in the polland my pickle are going good i make many types of pickle like mango , spices, etc
Marcus911 3 | 102
30 Mar 2012 #56
dnz
I think that Czech Republic is a better place for business, they have a more Western train of thought, English is spoken by most university educated people and they have a better trained work force especially in the engineering and IT Sectors.

One of the biggest problems with doing business in Poland is, you can never get a straight answer, the answer always depends on how much they think you can afford. For example I was looking to buy machinery lately therefore I emailed various companies in a few different countries as they had similar machinery. All but the Polish companies sent me immediately the prices of the machinery. The Polish companies sent me back a list of questions which I might add were altogether nothing to do with them. As of today, 5 days later, I am still waiting on prices for the machinery and of course at this point I shall no longer be purchasing. All Cloak and Dagger doing business in Poland.


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