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Benefit entitlement in Poland for foreigners


AussieSheila 5 | 75
30 Sep 2011 #1
As a British citizen by descent and subsequently EU citizen (via British passport ), will I be entitled to unemployment benefit/ housing/ youth allowance etc. in Poland should I decide to live there for a year or two? I don't want to work there for pittance and I just want to enjoy the country, culture and social life and improve my Polish language. (I have enough money to live abroad without working for 2 years but I want to get freebies where I can and when I am entitled to).
Richfilth 6 | 415
30 Sep 2011 #2
will I be entitled to unemployment benefit/ housing/ youth allowance etc?

Oh, that's really cheered me up this morning.

There's two possible answers:
a) No.
b) Yes, here's 20zl, come back in four weeks for your next payment.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
30 Sep 2011 #3
I just want to enjoy the country, culture and social life and improve my Polish language.

Are you having a laugh, based on all your other posts on this forum surely you hate Poland, don't you?
Seanus 15 | 19,706
30 Sep 2011 #4
I like the sentiment of the post, though. EU or not, they will find ways of denying you. I wouldn't expect even 1 groszy from the state here, despite me paying ZUS for the last 4 years, 2 at a higher rate. Begrudging = litote
antheads 13 | 366
30 Sep 2011 #5
unemployment benefits in poland? hahaha, this is a country shaped by the chicago school of economics afterall, get a job or starve , failing that steal.
gumishu 12 | 6,084
30 Sep 2011 #6
as a Polish citizen you have to work at least 12 months of the most recent 18 montsh period to be eligible for half a year period of unemployment benefit - I have no idea what's it like for other EU nationals
a.k.
30 Sep 2011 #7
youth allowance

What's youth allowance?
Teffle 22 | 1,321
30 Sep 2011 #8
I have no idea what's it like for other EU nationals

What it's supposed to be like and what it is actually like might be different of course.
gumishu 12 | 6,084
30 Sep 2011 #9
there is something in lines of a housing benefit in Poland - it's a bit complicated but generally it is granted for people with low income (lower than 1200 PLN if single lower than some 900 PLN per person in a family) - the amount of the benefit is calculated depending on the average income in the 3 month prior to applying - again I have no idea if all EU nationals are eligible
FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1,883
30 Sep 2011 #10
gumishu wrote:

(lower than 1200 PLN if single lower than some 900 PLN per person in a family)

that reminds me of something. doesn't delphiandomine always post on here that minimum wage is like......1200 something zl per month? how would someone earn less than 900 then? man, 900 was my ZUS payment every month.
gumishu 12 | 6,084
30 Sep 2011 #11
900 PLN (or less) income per head in a household is what majority of Poles have (I guess) - the minimum wage quote is always gross - the curren 1380 PLN gross translates to 980 PLN net
a.k.
30 Sep 2011 #12
.1200 something zl per month? how would someone earn less than 900 then?

Imagne that you have a wife who doesn't work and 2 children and your salary is 3200 PLN. Divide 3200 by 4 and you have 800 PLN per person.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
30 Sep 2011 #13
What it's supposed to be like and what it is actually like might be different of course.

As I understand it, Poland doesn't have complicated rules surrounding entitlement - either you're entitled to it based on your insurance payments, or you're not. Doesn't matter if you're Polish or otherwise.
PWEI 3 | 612
30 Sep 2011 #14
Have you ever heard of any foreigner ever claiming any benefits in Poland?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
30 Sep 2011 #15
Wouldn't they just be handed a plane ticket to the UK?
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
30 Sep 2011 #16
will I be entitled to unemployment benefit/ housing/ youth allowance etc. in Poland should I decide to live there for a year or two? I don't want to work there for pittance and I just want to enjoy the country, culture and social life and improve my Polish language.

your ambition is to bludge the dole across Europe for a cheap holiday? Gosh what a winner, good luck with that.
irishguy11 6 | 157
30 Sep 2011 #17
I've thinking of heading to Aus, get all the benifits I can there. Oh wait they have laws stating that you need a certain amount of cash availble to last you your stay, or they put you back on a plane home the same day.

Why on earth would you think that Poland as a European country(which is in the biggest recession since WW2(europe not Poland) would give you free items when you have not completed a days work in the said country.

If they were to provide anything, i would assume that it would be means tested.
PWEI 3 | 612
30 Sep 2011 #18
delphiandomine
Wouldn't they just be handed a plane ticket to the UK?

Doubtful. I'd imagine they just get a bit of cardboard with the word "Anglia" on it and some advice about how to hitchhike in Poland.

Although they might be offered a seat on the plane which the British government hires every two weeks to return to Poland people who Poland has issued an EAW for, given that it pretty much always goes back empty.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,849
30 Sep 2011 #19
Why on earth would you think that Poland as a European country(which is in the biggest recession since WW2(europe not Poland) would give you free items when you have not completed a days work in the said country.

quite, especially when you already have money anyway. It's a safety net for the people of that country, not a 'freebie' for itinerant Aussies.

I have met your type in London, you spend all your time moaning about the people, the weather and the warm beer, and being superior in your Aussieness...;)
OP AussieSheila 5 | 75
1 Oct 2011 #20
As a citizen of EU, I am entitled to all the benefits and support available to the citizen of any EU country. Thats the law. I intend to take advantage of this law to the fullest to my benefit and pleasure during my stay in Poland. If I get $300 a month, it will be more than enough to rent a small apartment for a fortnight in a posh area of Katowice or Lublin.
antheads 13 | 366
1 Oct 2011 #21
Reread what gumishu wrote again.
hythorn 3 | 580
1 Oct 2011 #22
I intend to take advantage of this law to the fullest to my benefit and pleasure during my stay in Poland.

If your idea of a good time is spending hours inside a government office filling in forms then Poland is the place for you
I hope your Polish is up to scratch

Are you currently on welfare in Australia? It might help your case if you are
a.k.
1 Oct 2011 #23
If I get $300 a month,

I'm afraid even all the benefits together are not that high, correct me if I'm wrong.

Thats the law. I intend to take advantage of this law to the fullest to my benefit and pleasure during my stay in Poland.

No problem, go ahead.
Wedle 16 | 496
1 Oct 2011 #24
Have you ever heard of any foreigner ever claiming any benefits in Poland?

Maternity benefits.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Oct 2011 #25
The scepticism is visible. Foreigners are a potential threat and it's hard for some old people here to see them as anything else. Benefits would be a joke anyway. Poland is quickly losing the plot when it comes to matching salaries with inflation and providing for those in need.
polmed 1 | 216
1 Oct 2011 #26
As a citizen of EU, I am entitled to all the benefits and support available to the citizen of any EU country. Thats the law. I intend to take advantage of this law to the fullest to my benefit and pleasure during my stay in Poland. If I get $300 a month, it will be more than enough to rent a small apartment for a fortnight in a posh area of Katowice or Lublin.

You can always make money as " tirówka"
a.k.
1 Oct 2011 #27
Foreigners are a potential threat and it's hard for some old people here to see them as anything else.

What do you mean?
JonnyM 11 | 2,620
1 Oct 2011 #28
it's hard for some old people

It's hard for some old people to do all sorts of things like get used to currency changes, use Iphones or remember where they put their glasses, however since we aren't a gerontocracy we have to consider the wider issues. It's important to consider the needs of the elderly but it would be unwise to allow this to become an issue that dominates. Becoming wary is a natural process of aging rather than a basis for social policy.
hythorn 3 | 580
1 Oct 2011 #29
You can always make money as " tirówka"

people in glass houses....
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Oct 2011 #30
Many foreigners are an unknown quantity to certain older Poles. They don't know what to expect from them sometimes. They are therefore viewed through a sceptical lens.


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