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Permanent Residence in Polska: procedures, list of documents, etc.



Avalon 4 | 1,110    
11 Aug 2011  #31

To have health care on a voluntary basis, it's about 220zl a month.

Delph, I have already posted about this. I have been paying a voluntary contribution to ZUS for about 4 years. It started off at around 220 złoty but has risen over the years to present cost of around 360 złoty per month.

My partner has explained that they base the amount on the average Polish wage (which seems to be rising every month). For the first couple of years we paid at the post office as it was impossible to pay by standing order at the bank, due, to a fluctuation of a couple of PLN each month. The computerised version to allow you to pay over the internet will only allow you to do so "if" you have a "NIP" number, otherwise it will not work, so, even though I do not work I had to get one.

As is typical in Poland, you still have to fill in the ZUS form and send it in every month, even though they have a record of your online payment. I take it that this is necessary for someone in the office to have something to "stamp". NOTE: If you make one mistake on the form, they will send it back and make you do it again!!!! The penalty for doing this could be detention or writing out 100 lines.


unique_username    
11 Aug 2011  #32

But then again, it's a good way to keep non-EU citizens out. We have enough workers in the EU - we don't need non-EU citizens in here.

makes you sound quite elitist. what a tool.

so what do you have to say about non EU people that have started a business here and supply over 30 Polish nationals with jobs and pay over 30,000zl into ZUS every month, not to mention their wages?

would you like me to scan the document that was given to me by the provincial immigration office so you can see all the things written on it for yourself?
al111 12 | 89    
11 Aug 2011  #33

U sound very bitter man.I'm sure u're a hard working individual whose having problems getting round the bureaucractic hoops in the country. If u really want to stay i'm sure there is a way and many people around here might help u. Where abouts are u from and what is your connection to Poland (Family,Spouse or Business)? Which city are u in?
delphiandomine 80 | 15,938    
11 Aug 2011  #34

It started off at around 220 złoty but has risen over the years to present cost of around 360 złoty per month.

Aha - thanks! Still, 360zl isn't a bad deal per month for coverage.

so what do you have to say about non EU people that have started a business here and supply over 30 Polish nationals with jobs and pay over 30,000zl into ZUS every month, not to mention their wages?

I'd say that they wouldn't be whining about having to pay 900zl of social taxes per month. ZUS is actually an utter bargain if you're self employed and earning a decent bit of money, compared to the contributions made by employed people.

How any medium sized business owner can complain about a tax burden in an EU country of 32% (higher rate) plus 900zl per month is totally beyond me.

would you like me to scan the document that was given to me by the provincial immigration office so you can see all the things written on it for yourself?

Please do, actually. I can tell you for a fact that half of the things you mentioned simply aren't mentioned in the law at all. Polish law is very specific - if it's not mentioned, then they have no right to ask for it (and you can safely tell them such). Standing up to the dragons works fine if you know exactly what you're talking about - they won't risk pushing something that's actually contrary to the law.
al111 12 | 89    
11 Aug 2011  #35

TO DELPHIANDOMINE
I thought i should include this in, hope the OP doesn't mind. Since u seem to have alot of experience on this i should ask.

So DELPHIANDOMINE here is my question a guy from South Africa has asked me to find out about this. He is married to a Pole and soon will be applying for a permanent residence in Poznań.He now holds a Polish Birthcertificate after his original was retained when they got married( he actually had to fight to get this). So when he applies for the permanent residence in Poznań wont they demand another original birthcertificate from him? He also has a notarized copy of his original BC.
delphiandomine 80 | 15,938    
11 Aug 2011  #36

If he's got a Polish birth certificate, that should do the job, I think?

Never heard of them refusing a Polish-issued birth certificate, actually.
Avalon 4 | 1,110    
11 Aug 2011  #37

360zl isn't a bad deal per month for coverage.

Compared to 12% of your income (with no upper limit) as in the UK, its a bargain.
wielki pan 2 | 250    
12 Aug 2011  #38

No-one mentioned private insurance. Perhaps you should learn a bit more about Poland and what the NFZ system is?

No sane person relies on the Polish medical system, you need private cover!
delphiandomine 80 | 15,938    
12 Aug 2011  #39

Really?

Again, you're showing your utter ignorance of the Polish system if you think that. Depending on where you live, the NFZ system can actually be very very good. Latest example for me - I broke my finger, so went to the hospital. I was seen, x-rayed and dealt with within half an hour. Not bad, don't you think?

When was the last time you actually lived here again....?
Avalon 4 | 1,110    
12 Aug 2011  #40

No sane person relies on the Polish medical system, you need private cover!

I disagree. Saw a heart specialist here in Poland on a Wednesday, he said there was a problem. He phoned me on the Friday night and told me he had managed to get me an Angiogram on the following Tuesday in Krakow. Had the Angiogram and was told I needed a triple bypass, this was performed on the Friday.

That was 4 years ago. No problems. Unlike the 18 months quoted in the UK for a Hernia operation where I ended up having to pay for the op privately as I was unable to work with it. Personally, considering the supposed lack of funds and underpaid staff, I think Polish health care is very good.
pip 11 | 1,662    
12 Aug 2011  #41

Polish health care is fine. the hospitals are old but they are ok. we "pay as we go" meaning we typically use private and just pay when we need it...except for the time when my youngest stuck a bead up her nose- they told us to go to the childrens hospital right away.
Spaceman77 3 | 58    
21 Aug 2011  #42

al111:To spaceman77 how did u acquire your citizenship are u Originally EU or non-EU?

I finally received the Confirmation of Polish Citizenship for my three kids. Now we are preparing for our migration from the U.S. to Poland. you can read more about how it all went down here: theyellowflashlight.com/how-did-I-obtained-polish-citizenship-confirmation/

I can't wait to go there!!!
pankaj chopra    
17 Jul 2013  #43

hello buddy, ok i am from India and i have Indian passport holder and current i live in Cyprus EU. i want marriage with Poland girl. after marriage how can i take Poland visa and how can i register in Poland immigration? after marriage how many days after i can apply permanent residence in Poland.
sobieski 109 | 2,132    
17 Jul 2013  #44

Sounds very romantic.
kash 2 | 14    
1 Feb 2015  #45

Merged: How to get documents after marriage in poland

hallo respected peoples..

Last month i was married with polish girle the problem is i don't know how to apply for my documents because USC polanish office said they don't know will become documents to me or not..

I want to ask you peoples what should i do then i could get polish documents??
Note:i dont have legal status in poland..
ivnp71 1 | 46    
14 Feb 2015  #46

in order to get EU permanent residence card in Poland, what are the required documents?
Is required a document confirming that the applying person is covered by a general medical insurance or document confirming that the applying person has financial resources ??

Thanks..!
AdvicePoland    
14 Feb 2015  #47

You need to ask the relevant office, as some offices have different requirements. However, the general interpretation is that you require a comprehensive criminal check (conducted by the Polish authorities, they will ask your own country too), you require a statement from the tax office, a personal biography and proof that you have been working here for the last 5 years.

The last point is particularly important as if you cannot prove 5 years of clear work history, then you will be rejected. A break of up to 6 months is allowed.
ivnp71 1 | 46    
15 Feb 2015  #48

5 years of clear work history for EU citizens in Poland to get permanent residence? What about if one hasn't got any job?
A comprehensive criminal check for EU citizens? personal biography for EU citizens?
I think this is not so.
if anyone who is an EU citizen and married to a polish national and hasn't got any job, what are the required documents to get permanent residence in Poland?
sobieski 109 | 2,132    
16 Feb 2015  #49

Nowhere on the application document is there something mentioned about work history.
ivnp71 1 | 46    
16 Feb 2015  #50

Sobieski, you have the permanent residence, what were the documents to get it?
Monitor 14 | 1,832    
16 Feb 2015  #51

Don'y you have enough information here: migrant.info.pl/permanent-residence-permit.html
ivnp71 1 | 46    
16 Feb 2015  #52

Sorry Monitor! but that info is for nationals of non-EU countries and i am EU citizen married to a Polish.
sobieski 109 | 2,132    
16 Feb 2015  #53

Sobieski, you have the permanent residence, what were the documents to get it?

Don't remember really, way too long ago :). Basic condition was to have a permanent meldunek (without that one you cannot even apply), to live here uninterrupted for more as five years. My wife is Polish, but don't know if that was a condition as well. (I mean being married to a Polish citizen). What I do know is that they did not ask about my work or financial situation.
Monitor 14 | 1,832    
16 Feb 2015  #54

Sorry Monitor! but that info is for nationals of non-EU countries and i am EU citizen married to a Polish.

In that case here you have information in Polish:
malopolska.uw.gov.pl/default.aspx?page=staly_pobyt_obywateli_UE

And they write there that 5 years of work with max 6months break is necessary, except if somebody is spouse of Polish citizen (as Sobieski). And in required documents I don't see any proof of work. Could you tell me what's the point of getting this permit for EU citizen?
Harry 78 | 13,521    
16 Feb 2015  #55

Could you tell me what's the point of getting this permit for EU citizen?

As far as I can see, the only advantages are that you don't lose residency right if your country or Poland leaves the EU and you can have a maldunek for ten years instead of only five years (which also means that you only need to re-register your car every ten years and not every five years).

Oh, and you get an ID card which isn't legally proof of ID unless accompanied by your passport or ID card.
Bhaumik02 - | 6    
8 Feb 2017  #56

Merged:

Documents require for PR and eligliblity



Hi everyone

What is eligliblity and documents require for getting poland PR???
Alibutt    
18 Mar 2017  #57

Hi Monitor
I m living in poland last 1 years and i have temporary residence permit , i am working in a company ,but my question is that last 9 month , i am sharing the flat with someone and i dont have a contract on my name like zameldawania but last month i took my own flat and resgiter my zameldawania so after 4 years, goverment will consider my rest of 9 month , those i spend in poland and do the work and submit 2016 PIT .. awaiting your reply thanks




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