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Help collecting Karta Pobytu in Warsaw


jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #1
Can anyone give me some advice to more easily collect a karta pobytu?

I was told to go after a certain date and collect the decision...I have received nothing in the post about a yes or no. There is only ONE room to collect and it seems unless you wait 3 or 4 hours outside before they open you cannot be seen. I have already waited two hours in the cold from 6 to 8am waiting for the office to open and STILL could not get a low enough ticket number to be seen. When I got to the office at 6am there were loads of people already waiting and they kept letting their friends in ahead of others and the line doubled in front of my eyes before the doors opened and people shoved each other like cattle. It is like India at a train station. It is insane to have to get there at 4am just to get a number and STILL wait the entire day for your turn and then likely be told to come back and do it again because you don't have some paper they didn't tell you was needed.

Anyone know another office in Warsaw or another way to get the answer and collect the karta pobytu?

Thanks all...
Harry
14 Jan 2008 #2
Are you the citizen of an EU member state? If so, it sounds like you are going to the wrong room.

Are you prepared to pay a couple of hundred dollars for help? If so there are various expat agencies which can help you out (i.e. do the queuing for you and smooth out the paperwork).

If you are not EU and not able/willing to pay an agency, try taking a Polish friend with you and quietly asking people at the front of the queue if you can buy their place in the queue.

There are no other offices in Warsaw where you can collect the card.
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #3
No I am American...I already went through all the horrid application and queuing nonsense a month ago. Now I just need to go pick it up but it seems that is just as hard or harder than submitting. I only did this because of the new Schengen rules.

I know it is the way things are done here but there is no way I am paying even more money for a place in line to get this thing...I will say screw it and leave Poland before I will play any more games. I was already at my limit by the time I finished the application process and spent so much money. You would think picking something up would be a snap...not in Poland. Home sweet home is looking better daily.

So the Plac Bankowy office is for submissions only?

Thanks for the reply though...appreciate the suggestions.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #4
he he he welcome to Poland ..... yes it is there is no way around you will have to wait !!!

I know what you mean men this things sucks bit time I will have to go there to renew mine so will have to pass by this whole process again !!! you right I am almost on the point od screw poland and get out !!!!!
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #5
Oh brother...I have been here a while...it is nothing new I have just reached my personal limit.

The thing that kills me is I have to listen all day to Poles telling me how great and modern this country is....yet day after day they are proven wrong.

My gf was raised here and SHE hates as do all of her friends and family it so I know it isn't me being a racist.

I think we will just move to the States and say screw it...this place is not worth the hassle of waiting in the cold for 4 hours at 4am. I know it is for the Asians and Africans I had to wait behind for hours because for them it is a back door ticket into the EU...I truly don't care about that...I was just trying to make it more convenient for us.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #6
I hear you bro !!! and agree 100 % I am on the same boat as you .
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
14 Jan 2008 #7
zion

jones101

go away :) leave this country and this foum

Africans I had to wait behind for hours because for them it is a back door ticket into the EU.

lol we have the same ques for white and black :P
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #8
You misread my point...it wasn't about color it was about nationalities that NEED to have EU citizenship or residency for a better life....I don't. I could have just as easily been born in a poor third world country so I do not think I am better than them...only luckier by birth.

And don't give me the self righteous attitude...Poles are some of the most racist people I know....all white themselves and treat the Asians, Arabs and Africans here poorly.

I know what is wrong with my country and I make no excuses about it...Poles can't seem to do that in large...their pride is so huge they even hurt themselves with their stubbornness.

I also hate people with your attitude...if you want all the foreigners to leave Poland fine...we will take our business and money with us and your economy will collapse. Say whatever you want about it but the fact is foreign investment, business and factories is what keeps Poland afloat...it is not an insult...just a fact.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #9
we will take our business and money with us and your economy will collapse.

word

is so true !!!! plus why can POles never said that some staff in this country is really **** up and must be fix it like wages etc etc no wonder why so many leave !!!

learn how to take some critical viuws in your country Luc and stop with the leave this country if you dont like type of talk ... if something is broke must be fix and there are lot of broken things around POLAND

Peace !!!!
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #10
Yeah...stop letting your pride run your mouth...like zion says focus on the things that are right and fix the things that are not...only you can do this.

I would love to see everyone pick up and leave just to prove to people like you that this country is not such a super power as you think...but then that would hurt the good folks here so I guess I don't really want that.

It's a shame people like you give Poles a bad name.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #11
that this country is not such a super power

i guess they all know that if they want to or not POland is not super power
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #12
And that is the problem with most Poles I meet...they cant just be proud of what IS good and what they have accomplished...they have to run it into the ground and tell you how they are the smartest and the best and how everyone else sucks.

I have never met a culture that likes to complain more and I am American! People in the US complain about everything.

And mind you I have lived here for a while...will marry a Pole..and love her family and friends so I am far from a xenophobe...just realistic.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #13
just realistic

just like me ,

how they are the smartest and the best and how everyone else sucks.

that they are not .

jones do you work here ?
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #14
Nope...I have been paying my way with money earned from the US (and thus I am putting money INTO the Polish economy but not taking any out...like many expats) but was looking into to working here for a bit....but now with the new Schengen rules for yanks and the trouble with the karta pobytu I don't think it is worth it...have to do some thinking along with gf.

Where are you from?
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #15
good luck with that men ,and my adivice is you were right no worth the hassle living here

I would be off to US if I could do so

I am from Brazil
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #16
Ah my Portuguese is limited to Ola...my apologies.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #17
no worries mate .... I am off to brazil after tomorow for holidays

Damm that would be a nice break from this all ...

where in the US you come from ?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
14 Jan 2008 #18
I am from Brazil

stay there ...

jones101

never comeback here

"...they have to run it into the ground and tell you how they are the smartest and the best and how everyone else sucks."

LOL
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #19
You are a strange cat Lukasz...

And you also have some delusions if you think you can command anything of me.
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #20
hey lukas I need someone to clean my flat I pay 60 zl an for the day of cleaning
do you want a job ?
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
14 Jan 2008 #21
lol I see you have learned sth here ... yes now you are civilizated person ... Brazil Brazil hmmm .... I m not goinf to contiune because we Poles are more cultural than you (irony) ...

jones101

go home
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #22
Wow...telling me to do something I am already going to do...now that is the true definition of power....you are mighty my friend...I tremble in your shadow.

And my home is not the second room of my parent's two room flat that I share with my aunt...such as I am sure yours is.

Enjoy.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
14 Jan 2008 #23
I know it is for the Asians and Africans I had to wait behind for hours because for them it is a back door ticket into the EU

zion ?

And that is the problem with most Poles I meet...they cant just be proud of what IS good and what they have accomplished..

here is problem ...

And my home is not the second room of my parent's two room flat that I share with my aunt...such as I am sure yours is.

now your d!ck is 2 inch biger LOL

lol cultural very cultural answer ... go home and never back here ... and it is not true ...
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #24
zion ?

I have an EU Passport he he he he

so do you want the job or not ? otherwise will give to the ukrania girl next door
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #25
Are you stuck on repeat man? You keep saying telling me to do what I said I was going to do...maybe it is lost in translation.

Now I am not being a hypocrite as my Polish is very poor as well but I noticed you have some trouble putting together coherent English sentences. I have a good friend who is a teacher and I am sure he could give you a special rate because of your disability...he tries to be kind to the mentally delayed.

And for a member of the smartest race on the planet I find it odd you didn't know that Brazil was in South America rather than Africa or Asia....maybe you are having an off day...we all do.

And as to your comment about my genitals...I am not at all lacking in self confidence and am not homophobic like male Poles seem to be so this doesn't bother me as you would like it too.
Lukasz 49 | 1,746
14 Jan 2008 #26
I have an EU Passport he he he he

he he he

I am sure he could give you a special rate because of your disability...

3 inches LOL
BubbaWoo 33 | 3,510
14 Jan 2008 #27
The thing that kills me is I have to listen all day to Poles telling me how great and modern this country is....

stop letting your pride run your mouth...

Poles can't seem to do that in large...their pride is so huge they even hurt themselves with their stubbornness.

I have never met a culture that likes to complain more

focus on the things that are right and fix the things that are not...

interesting... anyone else experienced similar...?
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #28
dont bother with Lukas is just one of those with a 2000PLN netto a month

is not easy men lukas what about you take a trip to Kent and pick up some tomatos he he he

just joking ....
OP jones101 1 | 349
14 Jan 2008 #29
I know many expats and Polish that know this to be true...and I started the thread to get info but Lukasz jumped in with the "go home" garbage rather than owning up to the shortcomings here....

The pride thing again...

I have no problem admitting my own and my nations problems....

The people I DO like here will agree and bring up the problems themselves and better yet they have ideas how to fix it! Imagine that....
zion 16 | 168
14 Jan 2008 #30
interesting... anyone else experienced similar...?

I do every single day


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