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Ukrainian language similar to Polish?


Polonius3 Activity: 980 / 11,681
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26 Jul 2013  #211

My guess is that the inifintives should be iskati and govoriti.

Wulkan Activity: - / 3,164
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27 Jul 2013  #212

Mighty Germany? Laughable. This is pathetic disappearing ethnicity

Principally ethnic Germans are not pathetic beside their fertility qualities.

I have pointed that out many times before like now how your statements contradict each other.
ttt2  
27 Jul 2013  #213

Vlad1234

stop looking at the world through the veil of history

too many poles do that already
Wlodzimierz Activity: 4 / 545
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27 Jul 2013  #214

Kinda tough NOT to do, as Poland, along with the rest of Europe, is darn well mired in itLOL
REMINDER  
28 Jul 2013  #215

Lwow, Luck, Kamieniec Podolski i Zytomierz wiecznie polskie!

but you have failed to mention the most significant city which had been Polish for a period of time in the past: Moscow.

Ukrainian (who are Russians in Western eyes)

Russians only by their language and culture. Otherwise they are ctizens of Ukraine.
Marius Activity: 1 / 33
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28 Jul 2013  #216

How does a Russian-speaking Kyivian react to the sound of the Ukrainian tongue -- indifferently, with interest or does it strike him as a peasant dialect.

Sometimes as a peasant language and it is strangely looked upon by some. Others may just be happy that someone speaks the nation's own language, though. Depends on whom you meet.

In Kiyv, as well as e.g. Odessa, they may even "pretend" that they don't understand you if you speak Ukrainian, so I was told by Ukrainian friends!

In addition, speaking Russian in let's say Lwow (Lviv) could get you the raised eyebrows and suspicious looks as well!
delphiandomine Activity: 56 / 14,763
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28 Jul 2013  #217

In addition, speaking Russian in let's say Lwow (Lviv) could get you the raised eyebrows and suspicious looks as well!

Not really. That's just nonsense spread by Partiya Rehioniv. It might be the case in small villages in Western Ukraine, but not in L'viv.

In Kiyv, as well as e.g. Odessa, they may even "pretend" that they don't understand you if you speak Ukrainian, so I was told by Ukrainian friends!

Odessa perhaps, but not in Kyiv.
Husr  
24 Feb 2014  #218

I can tell you that Polish and Ukranian are actually very similar... apart from having different alphabets. As a fluent speaker of Polish, I can understand Czech almost perfectly and Ukranian takes me about 5 seconds to figure out after spoken lol. I'm sure if someone starts blabbering in Polish really fast you will have trouble understanding, but pretty much the entire basic routes of Polish and Ukranian are the same.. with the exception of the more recently introduced words. I'll give you some examples of the similarity and I'll spell out both languages phonetically: (I won't put in English translations, let's see how many of them you understand lol) Also I'm sure all words for alcoholic drinks are the same, like pivo, vodka, vino... as well as basic farmland words like Dzevo, Drevno, Krova, Baran, Pole...

Polish: co ty robysh Polish: scheshlivey podruzy Polish: tak troche Polish: Ya ciebie Kocham, Ya ciebie lubie Polish: Stuy Polish: psheprasham
Ukranian: shcho ty robysh Ukranian: Šèaslyvoji podorož Ukranian: Tak, trochy Ukranian: ya tebe kochayu Ukranian: Stiy Ukranian: Pereprošuju

Polish: gdzie ty idzesh Polish: ya rozumie Polish: Dzenkuye Polish: Tance z Vilkamy (ruslana) Polish: Mnustvo Lat Polish: Vitay
Ukranian: kudy ty ydesh Ukranian: Ya rozumiju Ukranian: Diakuyu Ukranian: Tanci z vovkamy Ukranian: Mnohaja Lita Ukranian: Vitayu

Polish: Smachnego Polish: Vy rozmaviache po Ukrainsku? Polish: chces ze mna potanchych? Polish: Do Pomoci/ pomoci Polish: Nazyvam sie Polish: Vybach
Ukranian: Smaènoho Ukranian: Vy rozmovliajete ukrajinśkoju Ukranian: Choèeš zi mnoiu potanciuvaty? Ukranian: Dopomoži» Ukranian: Mene zvu» Ukranian: Vybaète
Magdalena Activity: 3 / 1,839
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24 Feb 2014  #219

As a fluent speaker of Polish, I can understand Czech almost perfectly

I have my doubts about that ;-)

I think you have a rather simplistic approach to languages and probably often fall into traps of your own making. The examples you have given of Polish - Ukrainian similarities do not really prove anything much except that some of the most typical Slavic words and phrases are shared. In order to convince me, you would have to quote a longer text in Ukrainian and prove to me that its meaning is immediately obvious to a Polish speaker.

You would also have to the same for Czech to prove that you can "understand it almost perfectly".

"Keramika (řecky "pro hrnèířství") je anorganický nekovový materiál nebo uhlíkový materiál, vyrobený za vysokých teplot. První keramika se objevuje v mladém paleolitu, konkrétně gravettienu, resp. pavlovienu. Šlo o hliněné sošky (např. věstonická venuše, která je světoznámá právě tím, že je vypálená z hlíny a nikoli, jako všechny ostatní, vyrytá z mamutoviny èi kamene), které představovaly první izolované pokusy o její výrobu a brzy vymizely. Jediným a nejstarším místem výskytu mladopaleolitické keramiky na světě jsou lokality pod Pavlovskými vrchy (Dolní Věstonice, Pavlov) na Moravě. [1] (V 8. století př. n. l. se objevují první výrobky užité keramiky - tedy nikoli už jen sošky pravěkých umělců.[2])

V dnešní době se názvem keramika dále oznaèují i některé hi-tech materiály, používané například v armádě jako souèásti pancéřování. Obvykle se jedná o slinuté karbidy kovů (wolframu, titanu, chromu, molybdenu, tantalu, niobu a jiných), oxid hlinitý (Al2O3), různé nitridy a boridy. Mají pochopitelně i své civilní využití, karbidy kovů se používají například na různých vrtácích nebo pilách a jiných nástrojích jako takzvané hroty nebo vložky z tvrdokovu - nejběžnějším příkladem je vrták do betonu s hrotem z "vidia"."

This is a short Wiki text in Czech. How much do you ACTUALLY understand without googling anything?
z0ltan  
10 Nov 2014  #220

As an outsider, Ukrainian, Belarusian and Russian sound very similar to one another. Polish sounds different as do most other Slavic languages. There is something soft about these languages that make them sound similar to one another. I cannot yet discern between Russian and Ukrainian, but with time it should get easier.

z0ltan - stop personal attacks on registered users in this forum, it's the last warning before your IP will be banned, and you'll lose possibility to enter PF. Thanks.
PolskaKurwa  
12 Dec 2016  #221

Polish is a disgusting sounding language.
PolskaKurwa  
12 Dec 2016  #222

It is no surprise that Ukrainian (and to a smaller extent) Belarusian have tons of Polish words, and are therefore more lexically similar to Polish than to Russian. Grammar, on the other hand, is a different matter altogether. Remember that Ukraine was under Polish rule for over 700 years. Of course, it was heavily Polonised. Real Ukrainian has, probably, been lost forever in the mists of History.
dolnoslask Activity: 1 / 967
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12 Dec 2016  #223

lexically similar

Not so smart after all , your use of " lexically ", and punctuation reveal your true identity here on PF, so stop being naughty
Polonius3 Activity: 980 / 11,681
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12 Dec 2016  #224

Ukrainian

A chacteristic feature of Ukrisanian is the "-ty" infinitive ending. My late dziadek, a great jokester and yarn-spinner, once recited this naughty bit of verse in what he said was Ukrainian:

Perdyty i sraty, trawy sie trymaty.
Trawa sie porwała,
Dupa sie zwalała.




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