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Rozpoczynać - Zaczynać


Mufasa 19 | 358
23 Oct 2011 #1
Time to test what I've learnt...

Is zaczynać the perfect form of the imperfect verb rozpoczynać, or are they just synonyms?
m1ke - | 12
23 Oct 2011 #2
they are just synonyms
OP Mufasa 19 | 358
23 Oct 2011 #3
Thanks Mike. Are they used in different contexts, or just swaps?
margerytka - | 8
23 Oct 2011 #4
Firma rozpoczęła proces rekrutacyjny.

Zacząłem czytać powieść.

Mógłbyś zacząć od nowa?- can mean repeat sth or make a fresh start

zaczynac, zaczynać raz jeszcze, zaczynać od nowa, rozpoczynać nowy rozdział( np. w życiu)- metaphor
cinek 2 | 345
26 Oct 2011 #5
Are they used in different contexts, or just swaps?

Rozpoczynać is a little bit more formal, but they are interchangeable in most cases.

Cinek
OP Mufasa 19 | 358
26 Oct 2011 #6
Dzięki Cinek. :)
pawian 173 | 13,592
26 Oct 2011 #7
Rozpoczynać is a little bit more formal, but they are interchangeable in most cases.

Yes, you explained it well.
cinek 2 | 345
27 Oct 2011 #8
interchangeable in most cases

One more thought on this.
Zaczynać can be used with verbs and nouns, while rozpoczynać only works with nouns, which fits what I wrote before e.g.:

Zacząłem pracę w nowej firmie <- noun 'pracę', sounds neutral
Zacząłem pracować w nowej firmie <- verb 'pracować', sounds neutral
vs.
Rozpocząłem pracę w nowej firmie <- noun 'pracę' - this sounds quite formal
Rozpocząłem pracować w nowej firmie <- verb 'pracować' WRONG! This sounds BAD and NEVER use it this way.

Cinek
OP Mufasa 19 | 358
28 Oct 2011 #9
Rozpocząłem pracować w nowej firmie <- verb 'pracować' WRONG! This sounds BAD and NEVER use it this way.

OK, but why? I ask this question, because there will be other words like rozpoczynać, and I won't know which ones they are if there isn't some rule that points me in the right direction...
cinek 2 | 345
31 Oct 2011 #10
OK, but why? I ask this question, because there will be other words like rozpoczynać,

What words do you mean? I wrote before that 'rozpoczynać' should not be used with verbs and that's just an example of improper usage of the word.

Cinek
OP Mufasa 19 | 358
4 Nov 2011 #11
I meant are there any other words similar to rozpoczynać that should also not be used with verbs, and if so, which are they, and how would I know them if I come across them?
cinek 2 | 345
4 Nov 2011 #12
how would I know them if I come across them?

I don't think there's any rule for this. You must just learn them by heart (the same way you must learn that in English you say 'I can do' but 'I'm able to do'.

Cinek

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