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What language is this? Kashubian or Silesian?


Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #1
found this writing on back of my family photos, I got told by my Polish grandmother that they weren't Polish. Anyone recognise any words? Sorry for smudges, this photo is 60 years old.

Pic:
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #2
Russian.
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #4
We don't use Cyrillic alphabet in Poland, what I thought is actually commonly known fact.

Also, it is not Ukrainian nor Belarusian language - it is Russian version of Cyrillic alphabet. It doesn't mean that a person who wrote this is/was Russian.
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #5
But they're Eastern Slavic?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #6
I will say this way. Anyone who wrote this speaks Russian language.
Ironside 49 | 10,205
13 Aug 2016 #7
Geez man, who or what are eastern Slavic, are western Germanic? WTF?
Maybe somebody could have communicate in Russian or had been Russian himself - how the hell could we know?

Wait? are you not that Armenian?
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #8
But would you say that the person who wrote this comes from a Russian speaking area/region in Belarus/Ukraine?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #9
Geez man, who or what are eastern Slavic

Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians are Eastern Slavic.

But would you say that the person who wrote this comes from a Russian speaking area/region in Belarus/Ukraine?

From the Soviet Union, which existed 60 years ago when this photo was - as you say - taken.
Ironside 49 | 10,205
13 Aug 2016 #10
But would you say that the person who wrote this comes from a Russian speaking area/region in Belarus/Ukraine?

I don't know. On what ground? him/her being able to write Russian? Maybe, but that is not given. Surly you have more info than that.

Belarusians, Ukrainians and Russians are Eastern Slavic.

Never heard about it. The only thing that rings a bell is a eastern Slavic language group that the Rus tribes belonged to about 1000 years ago.
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #11
Judging by the name of photo taker I would guess she is either Belarusian or Ukrainian. Less likely Russian.

There is always a possibility she's Polish but was writing to Russian-speaking person, as his name Ivan suggests.
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #13
Maria Bernatowicz. It was written to Ivan, who is her brother.
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #14
So it was written to Ivan Bernatowicz
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #15
Yes. Unless Maria was married while writing it and got her husband's surname.

But if you know about a person Ivan Bernatovich who had/have sister Maria, then most likely yes.
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #16
Maria is my grandfather's sister so I assume Ivan is his brother. Interesting. Also, why Belarusians?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #17
Also, why Belarusians?

I have removed that part from my post above.

Maria have called herself "Marisya". In Russian language it should be Marusya. On the other hand, Belarusians might use form Marisya, I am not sure here. But so can Ukrainians.

Do you have any information on place where they lived?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #19
Belarusians then.
Ironside 49 | 10,205
13 Aug 2016 #20
Or Polish, Who knows?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #21
Ivan is not a Polish name.
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #22
*Edit: I asked and Maryƛia is my grandfather's cousin and Ivan is her brother.

And isn't their surname 'Bernatovich' Belarusian?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #23
And isn't their surname 'Bernatovich' Belarusian?

It is present not only in Belarus, but in that case people you talk about are most likely Belarusian.
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #25
forebears.co.uk/surnames/bernatowicz
forebears.co.uk/surnames/bernatovich
forebears.co.uk/surnames/bernatovych
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #26
So if my surname is Bernatowicz but my grandfather and his family spelt it Bernatovich, does it make it a polonised Belarusian surname?
Veles - | 164
13 Aug 2016 #29
If someone has a surname Smith does it mean he is British, Australian, or maybe from New Zealand? Or American?
OP Bartkowiak 5 | 114
13 Aug 2016 #30
Yes but the way it's spelt is Belarusian as Polish is Bernatowicz and Ukrainian is Bernatovych. Besides, if the family is Belarusian, doesn't that make the last name Belarusian.


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