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jeśli OR jeżeli


imano 10 | 42
11 Mar 2013 #1
so what's the difference between these 2 words:

jeśli and jeżeli

??

:D.

i see both words often and i understand them both to mean "if"...but i'm not sure which is "more formal" or whatever...i just don't get the difference :).
grubas 12 | 1,390
11 Mar 2013 #2
so what's the difference between these 2 words:

jeśli and jeżeli

No difference.
jon357 71 | 20,403
11 Mar 2013 #3
That's what other people have said to me too, when asked. But why choose one and not the other?
Lenka 3 | 2,780
11 Mar 2013 #4
For me "jeżeli" is more formal
grubas 12 | 1,390
11 Mar 2013 #5
But why choose one and not the other?

It is up to you.Just like with pronunciation of "either".Don't know how to write it phonetically but I guess you know what I mean.

"jeżeli" is more formal

It's not.
Edit:Better example would be "further" and "farther" I guess.
Lenka 3 | 2,780
11 Mar 2013 #6
It's not.

That's why I wrote "for me".
grubas 12 | 1,390
11 Mar 2013 #7
I omitted "for me" on purpose.I know you wrote "for me" but I didn't include it in quote because I was directing it at Jon and OP.

But why choose one and not the other?

You can simply pick whichever sounds better to you.For instance I prefer "further" over "farther" because I somehow associate "farther" with "fart".And I prefer " i-ther" over "e-ther" because to me "i-ther" simply sounds better.Don't know why though.
OP imano 10 | 42
11 Mar 2013 #8
grubas
actually there's a difference between "further" and "farther" :)
grubas 12 | 1,390
11 Mar 2013 #9
Is that right?What's the difference?I was told there is none.
jon357 71 | 20,403
11 Mar 2013 #10
Farther is about distance only. Further is more flexible.
grubas 12 | 1,390
11 Mar 2013 #11
Ok,I just looked it up and here's what I found."In the United States, though, farther is more often used to refer to physical distances, and further more often refers to figurative and nonphysical distances. For example, we might say that one mountain is farther away than another, while we might say the price of a stock (a nonphysical thing) fell further today than yesterday. This is not a rule, however, and further is often used for physical distances"

I live in the US so excuse me but no difference to me!
OP imano 10 | 42
11 Mar 2013 #12
oh you live in the US. case close. let's not compare languages now with demographics being a factor.

besides. we're talking about jeśli OR jeżeli (polish; the official language of just one country)
kpc21 1 | 763
12 Mar 2013 #13
Both are rarely used in everyday language. But if I talk to somebody, I rather use "jeśli" than "jeżeli". "Jeżeli" is good for some letters, documents or official speeches.

Sometimes in everyday speech we say "jak" instead of "jeśli" or "jeżeli", but it's meaning is closer to "gdy".

For example:
Zrobię to, jak wyjdziesz z pokoju. [the least formal]
or - with the same meaning:
Zrobię to, gdy wyjdziesz z pokoju. [more formal]
Zrobię to, jeśli wyjdziesz z pokoju.
Zrobię to, jeżeli wyjdziesz z pokoju.

Everyone means the same, but two first I would translate using "when", two following using "if".

With "gdy" I point out that I will do it just when the room will be free of the other person. With "jeśli" or "jeżeli" - that the other person will have walked out of the room. In effect - the same, but sounds a bit differently.

besides. we're talking about jeśli OR jeżeli (polish; the official language of just one country)

And the EU :)

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