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The righteous among Ukrainians, massacres in "Wołyń" during WW2


Mr Grunwald 30 | 2,004
25 Oct 2010 #1
As some know there was massacres in "Wołyń" during World war 2 done by Ukrainian nationalists, although some Ukrainians say it was done by Soviets in disguise it is indisputable that those that help Poles were Ukrainians.

rp.pl/artykul/2,554450-Ukraincy--ktorzy-ratowali-Polakow.html

"Ukrainians whom saved Poles"

Bishop Jan Bagiński was born in the village of Kamionka in the Volhynian voivodship. In 1943, when the Ukrainian Nationalists murdered Polish locals, he was 11 years old. "That I can talk with you right now, I thank our neighbor "Makarow Najstrukow" says the Bishop.

67 years ago risked to help Polish neighbors. Today , at the end of life, they need support

Bishop John Baginski was born in a village in the province Volyn Stoneware . In 1943 , when Ukrainian nationalists murdered the Polish inhabitants of the village, was 11 years old . - The fact that I speak with you now , I owe to our neighbor Makarowi Najstrukowi - says the bishop.

skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
29 Oct 2010 #2
Once again it proves that there are good and bad people in each and every nation.

It's really sad that the Poles and the Ukrainians and Lithuanians may I add don't have closer ties today. It's true that there were atrocities committed on all sides BUT those nations have more in common than what divides them.

Hopefully one day it'll be a true brotherhood between those nations sort of like what you see between Sweden, Norway and Denmark where they like to poke fun of each other yet where there a sense of a true Scandinavian brotherhood. I have relatives in Sweden and Norway and must say I love both countries. Hope one day it'll be just like that between Poles, Ukrainians and Lithuanians, and I'm not talking about the governments but the regular folks in those countries.
OP Mr Grunwald 30 | 2,004
29 Oct 2010 #3
of like what you see between Sweden, Norway and Denmark where they like to poke fun of each other yet where there a sense of a true Scandinavian brotherhood.

Yeah it's a weird phenomenon
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Hopefully one day it'll be a true brotherhood between those nations

Yeah every "commonwealthier" wish for it
PennBoy 76 | 2,436
29 Oct 2010 #4
As father Isakowicz-Zaleski said, in mixed marriages (Polish-Ukrainian) the Nationalists forced the non Polish person to kill his/her spouse and children, a method the Nazis or the Soviets didn't even use.
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
29 Oct 2010 #5
Yeah it's a weird phenomenon

Rock, scissors, paper... HELVETE!! LOL

As father Isakowicz-Zaleski said, in mixed marriages (Polish-Ukrainian) the Nationalists forced the non Polish person to kill his/her spouse and children, a method the Nazis or the Soviets didn't even use.

So what's your solution? More hate?

Numerous Tsars managed to rule over the occupied territories by deflecting the hate the oppressed felt to a hate of everything and everyone different. To stir up the nationalistic and the religious fervor amongst the worker bees was a brilliant move by the Russians.
OP Mr Grunwald 30 | 2,004
29 Oct 2010 #6
Rock, scissors, paper... HELVETE!! LOL

Oh aren't they funny? ;D

I have a question: Tatars are mostly respected but there still was some Tatars colaborating with the Nazis and doing same things that other "Eastern Europeans" did.

I think that UPA/OUN is in such a light as it is today because Ukrainians put up statues and name streets after Bandera.
Harry
29 Oct 2010 #7
Once again it proves that there are good and bad people in each and every nation.

With Poland of course being the exception that proves the rule (or at least so it seems from the attitude of many Poles).
1jola 14 | 1,879
31 Oct 2010 #8
You should have put a smiley face after that, Harry, or someone might take you seriously and help you derail this thread. Maybe you don't want to talk about good Ukrainians and prefer to talk about bad Poles?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
6 Mar 2015 #9
Merged: Righteous Ukrainians during Wołyń massacre?

volhyniamassacre.eu/ukrainscy-sprawiedliwi?SQ_DESIGN_NAME=print

According to this book, during the wartime Wołyń massacre of Poles by rampaging ethnic-cleansing nationalists, some Ukrainians warned, concealed or otherwise aided their Polish neighbours and nursed those who were wounded. Anyone know of any book on righteous Germans who risked running afoul of the Nazis to aid and rescue Poles in the GG? Or righteous Jews who concealed Poles from the NKVD and issued false Soviet documents to them in the eastern half of Poland annexed by Stalin in 1939
Harry
7 Mar 2015 #10
Books on righteous Germans? Hmm, I think I remember a book which featured a righteous German who saved a good number of Poles, wasn't it called The Flute Plater or something like that? And then there was that German who had a factory in Krakow that made shoes or something and had a list of Jews to save, Shoemaker's List was it? It's a real pity that this area of history is so rarely written about.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
7 Mar 2015 #11
Why so sarcastic, Harry?

yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/pdf/resources/german_righteous_among_the_nations.pdf
spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-17596399.html
Crow 148 | 9,322
7 Mar 2015 #12
Slain in the Wołyń massacres care little for discussions here. But, righteous giving hope to those who live.


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