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To Understand Poland 39-89 (L.U.C - TRIBUTE TO STEFAN STARZYŃSKI)


Gregrog 4 | 100
5 May 2010  #1
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Here's the polish view of history. Quite heavy and psychedelic but, according to me, it's just great.

The move is allegoric defend of Warsaw in September 1939. Voice is originally recorder speeches of Stefan Starzyński, president of Warsaw, killed by Germans.

What's your opinion?

watch on youtube for english subtitles
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,714
5 May 2010  #2
That's it?
Polands history is WWII only? And that will help to "understand" Poland how exactly?*disappointed*

(But cool graphics...the Panzer rocks!)
OP Gregrog 4 | 100
5 May 2010  #3
Not Polish history at all, but WWII part(as it is written "39-89").

If you don't see what is presented, I can't help you.

2 devils vs Poles
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
5 May 2010  #4
Here's the polish view of history. Quite heavy and psychedelic but, according to me, it's just great.

Didnt like it i'm all for arty presentations but thats just too far out there for me, check Bagiński' work thats a genius if there ever was one.

Also whoever added this music needs to be shot in his f*cking face, what the hell is this trash?

If you don't see what is presented, I can't help you.

Its still a sh*tty and psychodelic presentation with horrible music.
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Thats how its done.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
5 May 2010  #5
Here's the polish view of history.

I'm impressed. I liked the vocal intermezzo at about 2.30 mins, especially when he exclaims "Polska" before the drumline takes up again. What I didn't like, but that could be just because it's a Polish vocal sample and I don't understand what he says, is the scratch bit when the tank rushes into Warschau and destoys the pianos there. But like I said, that could be just because it's in Polish. In all, very good; music is original, I kinda like industrial/electronic at times and this fits perfectly in the eerie atmosphere that the artist wanted to create.

It also feeds on a common myth we had in the West about the invasion of Poland: horses against tanks. The Polish army did have tanks, right? The cavalery wasn't only on horses. But for the rest, good, good, good. Reflects perfectly the heroic struggle against the two demons Poland had to endure.

Thanks for this.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
5 May 2010  #6
Also whoever added this music needs to be shot in his f*cking face, what the hell is this trash?

Its not that bad, the voice at the begining does sound a little bit like the little girl who says "your mother sucks cocks in hell" from the Exorcist

Very dramatic..I have to say I quite enjoyed it.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,714
5 May 2010  #7
Very dramatic..I have to say I quite enjoyed it.

And it helped you to "understand" Poland how?
Drac90 1 | 74
5 May 2010  #8
i think that its quite contrary :D
ONLY a pole can understand it

i cant wait for this 8min thing...
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
5 May 2010  #9
And it helped you to "understand" Poland how?

Like said, I listened mainly to the music, firstly because I make music myself and secondly, when Sokidoki says it sucks, it must be great :)

As far as understanding Poland goes, I still don't understand the nagging and the whinging and whining, but I do understand the heroics that were involved back then. But I already understood that. Because, in spite of what some of the posters here may think, there are a lot of ppl outside its borders that do understand how terrible it must have been.

Anyway, I liked the music, experimental, but not too experimental and it has these nice industrial elements in it, although I still think the scratch part could've done a bit better, but that's just my opinion. If other ppl like it, then so be it.

Bratwurst, since you are German, those industrial elements must surely appeal to you as Einstürzende Neubauten, together with Die Krupps and a couple of other German bands invented industrial music.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,714
6 May 2010  #10
Bratwurst, since you are German, those industrial elements must surely appeal to you as Einstürzende Neubauten, together with Die Krupps and a couple of other German bands invented industrial music.

The music isn't the problem...
Wroclaw 44 | 5,388
6 May 2010  #11
I listened mainly to the music, firstly because I make music myself

I think you'll find this on topic: ...
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
6 May 2010  #12
Its not that bad, the voice at the begining does sound a little bit like the little girl who says "your mother sucks cocks in hell" from the Exorcist

Thats the quality of the recording, its half a century old, as for the music the psychodelic bits fit in with the picture but when it got hip-hoppish it just broke the experience for me.
Mr Grunwald 19 | 1,542
6 May 2010  #13
Quite good, except at the rapping kinda part that sucked a bit. Although the idea of the monsters (kinda like the war machine or something) was quite good. Only negative for me was the KönigTiger which I am 100% sure didn't take part of the 1939 invasion But but I know it's a lot cooler then a Panzerkampfwagen II ;)
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,714
6 May 2010  #14
Only negative for me was the KönigTiger which I am 100% sure didn't take part of the 1939 invasion But but I know it's a lot cooler then a Panzerkampfwagen II ;)

*nods* :)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
6 May 2010  #15
I think you'll find this on topic

The Polish Rammstein? :)

I liked the flanger they linked through to the synth and I do like the arrangements. However, and again, that's just me, I would think it would be more impressive if the singer would have a lower voice - indeed like Til Lindemans from Rammstein. Their music is so impressive for the biggest part due to his low and bombastic voice. I think the msg would come across a bit better as it would hammer it into the listeners. Now it gets a little lost, which is a pity.

Does this band specialize in "historical" songs?

watch on youtube for english subtitles

No no no, it's more impressive without. It leaves it up to the imagination of the listener and that adds an extra dimension to the tune as such.

Edit: the remarks I had about the scratch part were pure stylistic in nature, it was not meant to diminish anything off the msg. But I'm sure you understand.

>^..^<

M-G (listens to every kind of music)
Wroclaw 44 | 5,388
6 May 2010  #16
Does this band specialize in "historical" songs?

Sabaton are a grammis-nominated power metal band from Falun, Sweden formed in 1999. The band's main lyrical theme is that of historical wars. This can be heard on the albums Primo Victoria and Attero Dominatus where all of the songs, except the final tracks, take inspiration from a historical battle or war, such as the song "Counterstrike", which refers to the Six-Day War.

To Understand Poland 39-89 (L.U.C - TRIBUTE TO STEFAN STARZYŃSKI)

A mixture of good and bad images and a terrible mix of music.
vetala - | 382
6 May 2010  #17
There are some bits I don't like but other than that it's amazing! It's a pity that no other track from "To Understand Poland 39-89" appeals to me.


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