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Today is the 1st of September (WWII start in Poland)


MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #1
No doubt a memorable date in Polish history, the first of September, albeit not the nicest one.

I know last year there was a commemoration service to mark the 70th anniversary of the dreaded events that took place on this date in 1939.

Is this an annual event? Or is this commemorated every 5 or 10 years only? And if it's an annual event, is it an official one or is it just spontaneously organised by ppl?

>^..^<

M-G (busy)
delphiandomine 83 | 17,771
1 Sep 2010 #2
Is this an annual event? Or is this commemorated every 5 or 10 years only? And if it's an annual event, is it an official one or is it just spontaneously organised by ppl?

There's something going on at Westerplatte today - Komorowski is apparently there.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #3
So it's a militairy event?

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
scottie1113 7 | 898
1 Sep 2010 #4
There's a ceremony every year at Westerplatte. It begins at 04.47 when the first shots were fired. I attended it two years ago.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #5
Ah ok. I was just wondering because in NL they don't commemorate the day that the Nazis invaded, the 10th of May, but the day we got liberated from them - I think the same in Belgium and France.

Is there actually a "Liberation Day" in Poland? I don't mean liberation of Communism, but the end of WW2?

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Sep 2010 #6
It's commemorated every day here ;) ;)

It doesn't warrant a holiday, though :(
smurf 39 | 1,981
1 Sep 2010 #7
i will also commemorate it, twas the date i moved here

so i'm gonna drink until i feel no feelings tonight

(^_^)
Tami - | 2
1 Sep 2010 #8
Is there actually a "Liberation Day" in Poland? I don't mean liberation of Communism, but the end of WW2?

Poland wasn't liberated after WW2. One occupant was changed to another. It's hard to celebrate it.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #9
I appreciate that, but no commemoration whatsoever? I didn't mean celebration, don't get me wrong.

However, I have to say it makes sense that they commemorate the 1st of September as this was the day the shyte happened that eventually would last 50 years.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
plk123 8 | 4,150
1 Sep 2010 #10
So it's a militairy event?

yes.. a huge heroic battle

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Westerplatte

Is there actually a "Liberation Day" in Poland? I don't mean liberation of Communism, but the end of WW2?

july 22, iirc.. but like others said before, it was kind of a trade from one occupier to another.
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Sep 2010 #11
I don't know any country celebrating the day it got invaded by Germans(maybe Latvia who knows?).
pgtx 29 | 3,159
1 Sep 2010 #12
celebrating the day it got invaded by Germans(maybe Latvia who knows?).

i wouldn't call that a celebration... it's more like remembering and making an obeisance...
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #13
I don't know any country celebrating the day it got invaded by Germans

Well, it's not exactly a celebration, more a commemoration and it does make sense as on this date the trouble started for Poland after they finally were independent for 20 years. It's not gonna be a party, if you know what I mean.

it was kind of a trade from one occupier to another

Indeed. But at the moment itself when the Nazis were defeated, there must've been some form of relief. I don't know whether anybody at that specific time could've foreseen what was about to go down.

So, am I correct that the 4th of June is being celebrated as the Liberation-event in Poland?

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Sep 2010 #14
So, am I correct that the 4th of June is being celebrated as the Liberation-event in Poland?

No,it's the June 24,the Moscow Victory parade.(just kidding).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_Victory_Parade_of_1945

(MG you have to realize that from a polish view Poland lost the war,so it celebrates it as much as Germany).
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #15
I realise that. I was just wondering if, since it's such an important day in not only Polish History, but in World History as well, they commemorate it in any way; not only when it's an even number of years ago.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Harry
1 Sep 2010 #16
So it's a militairy event?

Nope, just a few tourists.
plk123 8 | 4,150
1 Sep 2010 #17
So, am I correct that the 4th of June is being celebrated as the Liberation-event in Poland?

where did you get that?

if anything it should be either:

- May 7th 1945 - German unconditional surrender.

- April 30th 1945 - Hitler commits suicide.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #18
Ah ok, the main answer that I wanted, I got: it's being commemorated on a yearly basis.

where did you get that?

Well, last year the 20th anniversary of the first free elections was celebrated as I understood it, so I reckoned that this then would be some sort of "Liberation Day" as we have in NL on the 5th of May. That's why.

Thank you all, guys!
convex 20 | 3,978
1 Sep 2010 #19
April 30th - Hitler commits suicide.

There's a holiday.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #20
Well, we have in NL :) Only it's not because of his suicide, but because of our Queen.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,872
1 Sep 2010 #21
I realise that.

I doubt that M-G....the 8th of May isn't commemorated in Germany either...not even as alot of PC-people try to explain that as a day of liberation for Germany too, most Germans just don't see it that way, never have.

The only thing Germans connect with the 1th of September is the starting of school and the first day for the youngest kids is a kind of a holiday with their "Schultüte" (First-Day-of School-cornet).

1th of September in Germany:

:)

PS: Does Holland commemorate the day of the dutch surrender?

Which countries revels in defeats???
SeanBM 35 | 5,808
1 Sep 2010 #22
No doubt a memorable date in Polish history, the first of September, albeit not the nicest one.

I have a feeling you are not talking about the fact that today is back to school day.
I used to hate going back to school.

You are probably talking about the 75 anniversary of the beginning of WWII, either that or Smurf's coming to Poland.
OP MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Sep 2010 #23
I doubt that M-G

I think you misunderstood me. I wasn't referring with that line to Germany, but to Poland.

I can understand that Germans don't want to commemorate their defeat. And, like I said in an earlier post, NL doesn't commemorate the 10th of May or the 14th, but the 5th (actually it should be the sixth, but for some reason they thought the 5th was a more suitable date as it's nice and round) and at 20:00 hrs exactly on the evening of the 4th of May, we hold 3 mins silence for all the victims of WW2.

Does this answer your question? I hope so as I have to do some shopping now as you emptied out the kitchen once again. I thought I still had some pasta left. I was wrong.

;)

I have a feeling you are not talking about the fact that today is back to school day.
I used to hate going back to school.

You are probably talking about the 75 anniversary of the beginning of WWII, either that or Smurf's coming to Poland.

Grin, I used to hate going back to school as well, but in NL it's not the 1st of September but earlier, depending on which area you're in. And it's not such a huge event as in other countries...
plk123 8 | 4,150
1 Sep 2010 #24
Well, last year the 20th anniversary of the first free elections was celebrated

right.. nothing to do with the nazis, this time.

There's a holiday.

i'd say., we should all celebrate it.. it was a glorious day,

otoh, it's my momma's b-day.. not the year, however.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,872
1 Sep 2010 #25
I wasn't referring with that line to Germany, but to Poland.

I can understand that Germans don't want to commemorate their defeat.

Which country want's to commemorate their defeat? I don't understand why Poland should???
(That's why I don't understand your question....)
Olaf 6 | 956
1 Sep 2010 #26
- None I guess. But the idea is to commemorate the beginning of genocide, terror and outbreak of world war. Not a defeat. It is to remind younger generations about what happened, as there are less and less each year of those who can remember it from their own memories.

Too bad my thread was deleted. It was about the same topic but more accurate.
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Sep 2010 #27
In Greece the librration by Germans is not much celebrated since at the same day a bloodbath took place when crowds celebrating got machine guned by the police and civil war started.(and lasted till 1949).
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,872
1 Sep 2010 #28
It is to remind younger generations about what happened,

The war started not with the 1th of September...it started much earlier and was a rather longish, more complicated process. Many historians say it was more the end of the armistice from WWI.

Nothing happened out of the blue sky...

That's the history people should and need to learn about, not only the date when the first hot shot was fired!
southern 75 | 7,096
1 Sep 2010 #29
There is one theory that the war started with Munich agreement and german invasion to Chechoslovakia.By another theory it started when Japan invaded China and SU in 1938.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,872
1 Sep 2010 #30
There is one theory that the war started with Munich agreement and german invasion to Chechoslovakia

The other theory says it started already in 1919....


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