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Why did the PRL keep many symbols of Poland's 2nd Republic?


delphiandomine 83 | 17,658
3 Oct 2012  #1
As someone who has a keen interest in Polish history and politics - I have some questions that I can't answer easily.

1. Why did the PRL keep (or alter only slightly) many symbols of the 2nd Republic? I mean - for instance - the eagle (without the crown), the flag, the anthem? Was it to prove legitimacy as the real Polish state?
pawian 161 | 9,899
3 Oct 2012  #2
Was it to prove legitimacy as the real Polish state?

Yes, communist didn`t crack down on the Polish society from the very beginning. They tried to attract unwilling Poles to communism, sort of. Do you know that till 1947-48 priests were allowed to take part in official ceremonies attended by communist party members?

It changed when Stalin gave orders to Polish comrades to quicken the pace of socialist revolution in Poland.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,658
3 Oct 2012  #3
Do you know that till 1947-48 priests were allowed to take part in official ceremonies attended by communist party members?

Wow, really?

The whole 1945-1956 time period is fascinating to me.
Harry
4 Oct 2012  #4
Pawian, it's not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source for that?
pawian 161 | 9,899
4 Oct 2012  #5
A source for what? If you mean party members and priests hand in hand, just look at the photo. It is a real one from mid 1940s with that Soviet agent President Bierut, AL-murderer Rola ┼╗ymierski and other nasty top communist leaders in the background who opened a newly-built facility and allowed priests to bless it. :):):)

Harry, don`t make me look for sources for you, just read what you are written about and follow these guidelines:

o be fair, not all expats you can learn from - but some of them are incredibly well informed. Take Harry for instance - the guy's idea of fun is to go exploring ruined graveyards in obscure Polish towns in the east. His passion for Polish history is incredible

Such guys like you don`t ask others for sources - they provide them themselves!!! Poniał??? :):):):):)
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
4 Oct 2012  #6
Was it to prove legitimacy as the real Polish state?

I think so, as well as different symbols of Josef Pilsudksi. There is currently an office in Belweder that belonged to Pilsudski, and nothing in that office has been altered it has been kept the way it was. When i found that out, i was surprised that the communists simply didn't change everything.
pawian 161 | 9,899
4 Oct 2012  #7
When i found that out, i was surprised that the communists simply didn't change everything.

It is quite understandable. They didn`t need to change anything because it was hidden from the public eye.
OP delphiandomine 83 | 17,658
5 Oct 2012  #8
When i found that out, i was surprised that the communists simply didn't change everything.

I'm even more surprised now!

But then again - the cult of Pilsudski was so immense that perhaps they wouldn't wanted to have messed with such a thing anyway.

Second question :

After the end of the PZPR in January 1990 - what happened to the former PZPR members in the Sejm? Did they form new political parties, or just sit as independents in the Sejm until the next election?
pawian 161 | 9,899
5 Oct 2012  #9
Did they form new political parties,

Most did and joined it: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Democracy_of_the_Republic_of_Poland

the cult of Pilsudski was so immense that perhaps they wouldn't wanted to have messed with such a thing anyway.

No, communists were able to destroy everything.
hague1cmaeron 14 | 1,377
5 Oct 2012  #10
I'm even more surprised now!

Anna Komorowska talks about it the the video:


Ziemowit 12 | 3,578
5 Oct 2012  #11
She doesn't seem to have lost any stones. What a pity!
Magdalena_M - | 1
23 Sep 2015  #12
Merged: Art in the PRL (People's Republic of Poland - Socialism Era)

Hello,

I'm an Australian with a Polish background and I'm doing some research on the art scene in Poland in the 1980s. I recently went to a great exhibition about the avant garde in Wroclaw, and would love to follow this up with some stories about what it was like producing art or going to exhibitions in the PRL.

Is there anyone in the forum who was around at this time and has stories to share?

Best wishes,

Magdalena


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