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In Memory of victims, who had their lives cruelly taken at Treblinka Death Camp in Poland


Harry
25 Jul 2017 #91
"GERMAN death camps located on Nazi-held Polish territory."

That doesn't work for Stuthoff (although Stuthoff wasn't a death camp).

they go to Auschwitz, not any of the many that are on present German soil. Why is that?

It would be rather difficult for them to go to death camps present on German soil, given that there aren't any. If anything Auschwitz would be the closest to that as when it operated it was on German soil while the others were in the Generalgouvernement.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
25 Jul 2017 #92
here's an article on quite recent use of "polnische Vernichtungslager" on a German public TV channel website

Apologies then; never heard of it. I still believe though that it was only stupidity like Obama's blunder and not intent. According to Radio Poland, they broadcasted it on Monday and apologized the next day. Was that a one time incident on German TV?

no it is not 'complicated'

Why is that?

The worst atrocities happened in the German death camps located on Nazi-held Polish territory. Maybe that's why they send the kids to the most infamous German death camp located on Nazi-held Polish territory. See what I mean?
gumishu 11 | 5,629
25 Jul 2017 #93
Was that a one time incident on German TV?

not the only instance in German media as far as i know - there was a quite well reported (at least in Poland) incident of the same kind with ZDF earlier this year
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,839
25 Jul 2017 #94
given that there aren't any.

Dachau? Buchenwald? Ravensbruck?

Be a bit closer and less 'other'ing wouldn't it?
Lyzko 29 | 7,230
25 Jul 2017 #96
No denying the facts, rozumiemnic!

The majority of the death camps though WERE in fact located on what is today Polish soil.
Harry
26 Jul 2017 #97
Dachau? Buchenwald? Ravensbruck?

None of those were death camps.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,839
26 Jul 2017 #98
not in the sense of Treblinka, but they were camps where thousands of people died.
Harry
26 Jul 2017 #99
not in the sense of Treblinka

Exactly, they were just camps where it didn't really matter if people lived or died, and sadly there's no shortage of those. However the death camps were unique, murder factories rather than camps. Camps are places where people live and Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec were designed to be places for dying.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,839
26 Jul 2017 #100
hmm true. I suppose at those other camps, there was at least a chance of survival.
Apparently at the rail halt for Treblinka, there was a fake ticket office and so on , so it looked like a normal place.
Horrendous.
Harry
26 Jul 2017 #101
Apparently at the rail halt for Treblinka, there was a fake ticket office and so on , so it looked like a normal place.

Yep, lessons learned from the laboratory camp in Belzec, where the number of known survivors was two. Not two percent of the 500,000 to 600,000 people who arrived there. Two people from the 500,000 to 600,000 who arrived there. The vast majority died the same day they got there.

By contrast the survival rate at Auschwitz was between 13% and 18% (depending on which numbers you use) and the life expectancy was about double that of a British Subaltern at the front in WWI.
Lyzko 29 | 7,230
26 Jul 2017 #102
Treblinka is merely ONE symbol of the unspeakable. It's meant as a metaphor, not as a single monument to Nazi insanity. Whether Buchenwald, Ohrdruf, Natzweiler-Stutthof etc, weren't specifically "death camps" or not, remains academic, not to mention insulting to the memory of both victims and survivors.

The motto of the first of those was "Break the body, break the spirit, break the heart!" How else other than through death preceded by often slow torture, did the Nazis choose to rid the world of their intended victims?
jon357 67 | 16,836
26 Jul 2017 #103
Treblinka is merely ONE symbol of the unspeakable

Yes. It's also currently and for many years more a place of quiet reflection about the horrors that took place, rather than somewhere with exhibits like Majdanek in Lublin, Stutthof in the north and the best known of them in South West Poland.

I think the site is best kept exactly as it is now.
Lyzko 29 | 7,230
26 Jul 2017 #104
Quiet and agonizing, I'm certain!

While I've never been, I was many years ago a visitor at the Dachau Memorial Site at the camp's location outside of Munich. While better "maintained" aka sanitized than Auschwitz, for example, the very site of the word "KREMATORIUM" was too much for me. I took a walk around the exterior grounds and returned to my lodgings.....promptly bursting into tears as soon as I had a free, rare, and desparately needed, moment alone from my hosts:-)


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