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Israeli wants to wipe Poland off the map!


Marek11111 9 | 827    
28 Mar 2010  #91
look Palestinians lived there for centuries why you want them to move Jews are the ones who invaded the Palestinians territory.
nomaderol 5 | 731    
28 Mar 2010  #92
palestinians existed there since the beginning of the earth? maybe, palestinians invaded this israel land from tanzanians before, who knows. anyway. poor jews, they invaded a small oil poor land. so, poor palestinians too, be smarter and invade the oil rich lands of arab kingdoms.
Marek11111 9 | 827    
28 Mar 2010  #93
do you know history nomaderol? obvious not as you speak out of your ass.
this is second time in history Jews is laying claim to Palestine.
nomaderol 5 | 731    
28 Mar 2010  #94
of course, i know.. all there (jews, christians, muslims, arabs, semites) are children of abraham. and those lands are heritage/heirdom of abraham father/prophet/whatever.. 3-5 tousands of heirdom fights between family members. idiots like poor ordinary arabs fight for nothing, kings like saudi king benefits and make a palace with 700 rooms in canary island where he uses it for a week only in a year.
Marek11111 9 | 827    
29 Mar 2010  #95
nomaderol I do not want to talk to you go read some books and educate your self.
yehudi 1 | 434    
29 Mar 2010  #96
nomaderol: now, those turkic jews called ashkenazis control israel

I already answered you in another thread about the origin of Ashkenazis. Now I'll correct you on the issue of Askenazi control of Israel. The last few army chiefs were Sefaradim (the current one is Gabi Ashkenazi, who despite the name is a sefaradi from Turkey.) We've had a few presidents who were Sefaradim. Many of the leaders of the business and financial power centers in israel are Sefaradim. More and more families in Israel are mixed as Askenazim, Sefaradim and Yemenites intermarry. It's not as if there were two separate societies competing for control. We live in the same neighborhoods and work in the same companies. My children's classmates are both ashkenazim and Sefaradim. The issue of origin is becoming gradually irrelevant. It doesn't matter in today's Israel if your grandfather was persecuted by Russians or by Arabs.
Seanus 15 | 19,742    
29 Mar 2010  #97
It matters in Poland ;) ;)
nomaderol 5 | 731    
29 Mar 2010  #98
[quote=yehudi][/quote]

After Spain deportation in 15th c, most of Sefaradims lived in south america (as they were used to latin language and culture) and in ottoman borders (today greece and turkey.) These sefaradims in ottoman lands were a power in control of ottoman wealth and business. Later, when ottomans disappeared they contributed to the industrialization of new turkey republic as well especially during the ww2 when many german (ashkenazi) jewish scientists moved to turkey universities. with collobration of sefaradims's richness, they built several engineering companies and factories. these sefaradim jews in turkey still have some factories that contributed to development of turkey.. 90% of jews in turkey are sefaradims. they were more than hundred of tousands pre-israel. and hundred of tousand turkish sefaradim jews immigrated to israel, but, they have kept the contacts within turkey.. so, sefaradims of turkey have had no problem except once about banning religious schools and wealth tax, but, these were due to new secular regime of turkey that also banned other religious schools, etc.. these sefaradim jews immigrated from turkey still doing many businesses between turkey and israel.. since most of them are relatively richer and more educated than sefaradims immigrated from south america etc, it is normal seferadims of israel have power even though they are not majority of israel.. but, the main power is ashkenazi jews as they control more wealth and key places like academic environment, etc.. no, i not saying there is problem between ashkenazi and sefardim as sefardims of israel are turkey friendly due to their past and business connections still active and ashkenazi jews have historical connections with turks are binding these two jews in israel. and european jews, now usa jews (ashkenazi) and turkey have had close relations for centuries.. this has been unknown to general public even to turkey public.. maybe, you arent mentioning turkey due to latest political actions of erdogan here? it is another story i can tell later. such important deep relations are not in their controls of elected governments. ps: i have done several business with companies in israel from small companies to top companies. i appreciate jews much as they never stop working and learning even at old ages. one of them was a couple from israel who were at late 70s and they were trying to learn a new business field even at this old age.. btw, i guess 50% of business in poland are still in control of jews. and they doing good business with jews in turkey. anyway.. yehudi, i know israel feels alone lately, but, israel is one of turkic countries actually. this is why israel isnt liked by arabs and some western centers.
cobalt2001 - | 3    
31 May 2010  #99
Poland with over 1000 years of history has no problem with the Muslim or normal Jews
only the new Zionists are the problem for the world causing all the wars
Seanus 15 | 19,742    
31 May 2010  #100
I hate when some people try to make a name for themselves by spreading bile. Anyone who thinks that Poland is a major foreign policy concern of Israel's is sadly mistaken.
rychlik 41 | 374    
31 May 2010  #101
I hate Jews and just to let you know I am a young Pole living in Canada. All they do is slander us.
Stu 12 | 523    
31 May 2010  #102
I hate Jews and just to let you know I am a young Pole living in Canada.

What a well thought through opinion! Wow! I am amazed. That must have taken him days, no even months to come up with.

<If some people become only a little more stupid, you'd have to water them twice a week ... :-S>
rychlik 41 | 374    
31 May 2010  #103
Are you Jewish? Don't be a coward. I came up with this opinion in a few nano seconds :) But at least I have an honest opinion and will leave it at that. Also, just so you know I've had experience with a couple of Jews in Toronto. They are very bitter people.
MareGaea 29 | 2,766    
31 May 2010  #104
But at least I have an honest opinion and will leave it at that.

True. Unfortunately.

Also, just so you know I've had experience with a couple of Jews in Toronto.

Ah, so these few bad experiences is enough for you to hate an entire ppl? You have to explain to me how you do that; I can't. No matter how I try, I cannot hat an entire ppl based on a few incidents.

They are very bitter people.

Just like the Poles :)))

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)

I gave you my opinion- live with it.

And Stu is giving you his opinion. Live with it. If you want freedom of speech and thought, learn to accept that there will be ppl who don't agree with you. And as long as you don't say any further silly things, I will not mingle in the discussion. But if you do, I will.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
rychlik 41 | 374    
31 May 2010  #105
And Stu is giving you his opinion. Live with it. If you want freedom of speech and thought, learn to accept that there will be ppl who don't agree with you. And as long as you don't say any further silly things, I will not mingle in the discussion. But if you do, I will.

He insulted me. I had to respond. He's not even Jewish. People hate each other in this world or discriminate for various reasons. We should all accept it. This topic is provoking and re-enforces stereotypes that Jews are anti-Polish AND funny enough I have met a few nasty Jews in Toronto. What do you think my opinion of Jews would be!!?? I'm an honest guy.
time means 5 | 1,317    
31 May 2010  #106
He insulted me. I had to respond

Herein lies the problem and why presumably the conflict is on going, tit for tat.
MareGaea 29 | 2,766    
31 May 2010  #107
He's not even Jewish.

But I am, at least half :)

This topic is provoking and re-enforces stereotypes that Jews are anti-Polish AND funny enough I have met a few nasty Jews in Toronto.

It does, unfortunately. I have met a few nasty Jews too. But I also met some nasty Poles, Arabs, Dutch, Germans, Belgians and so on. I've also met a lot of good ppl from these groups. I just think you cannot judge an entire ppl based of a few experiences.

I'm an honest guy

That is granted and appreciated. But I still think that you should look at the good examples you've met (and I am sure you have) and think that there are good and bad ppl in every group. Don't waste your time hating other ppl, it will only consume you and turn against you eventually. And you don't want that, do you?

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
Crow 142 | 6,917    
31 May 2010  #108
Israeli wants to wipe Poland off the map!

well, i would only say- i`m not surprised. You know what i mean
rychlik 41 | 374    
31 May 2010  #109
That is granted and appreciated. But I still think that you should look at the good examples you've met (and I am sure you have) and think that there are good and bad ppl in every group. Don't waste your time hating other ppl, it will only consume you and turn against you eventually.

Yeah you are right. I'm much more tight lipped in person though :)
Stu 12 | 523    
31 May 2010  #110
rychlikT

Sorry for having lashed out at you like I did, but I can really get mad when someone says that someone has one or two nasty experiences with someone of a certain religion or nationality and then says that that's the reason why he doesn't like people of that certain religion or nationality.

Every once in a while, I come across one or two nasty Poles, or Dutch, or Germans, or French or catholics, or protestants, or Jews, or women, or shopkeepers or whatever; now according to you it would mean that I should hate all Poles, and Dutch and Germans and French and catholics and protestants and Jews and women and shopkeepers. But isn't that a bit short-sighted?

I hate those individuals that were nasty to me, not the group to which they belong.

So ... sorry again. And I am Dutch by the way ... ;)
Kuntuchi - | 2    
31 May 2010  #111
strange, I always thougt it would be france
scottie1113 7 | 900    
31 May 2010  #112
He said Israel would wipe Warszawa off the map!

Nowhere did he specifically say Warszawa.

Was Sun-Tzu or Clausewitz also some army guys?

Uh, sort of. As a US Marine officer way back in the late 60's, I studied these "guys". They're taught in Marine officer training and at West Point. Some officers actually learn something from them.

A Confederate general in the American Civil War, Nathan Bedford Forrest, was asked what his secret to success in battle. His reply: get there fustest with the mostest. Timeless advice.

Sadly, paranoia, bigotry, conspiracy theory and slander run rampant in this thread, and in fact on PF.
Seanus 15 | 19,742    
9 Jun 2010  #113
I don't think Israel needs any more enemies right about now. Distancing Turkey would be a major mistake as they are their main water suppliers.
Pinching Pete - | 560    
9 Jun 2010  #114
American Civil War, Nathan Bedford Forrest, was asked what his secret to success in battle. His reply: get there fustest with the mostest.

.. Pretty much went for his other exploits.. as founder of the Ku Klux Klan.. :- (
scottie1113 7 | 900    
10 Jun 2010  #115
That wasn't the point. It was his battlefield prowess I was talking about.
Zed - | 196    
10 Jun 2010  #116
Whoever started this thread is deranged. No war b/w IL and PL will occur... no reason.
yehudi 1 | 434    
10 Jun 2010  #117
Whoever started this thread is deranged.

Welcome to Polish Forums.
joepilsudski 26 | 1,393    
21 Jun 2010  #118
I hate when some people try to make a name for themselves by spreading bile. Anyone who thinks that Poland is a major foreign policy concern of Israel's is sadly mistaken.

Don't blame messenger...It was an Israeli 'military consultant', a think tank guy, who made the statement...And it was really just a psychological tactic that Israelis use against Europeans...They have not yet threatened Americans with nuclear bombs, but WTC was bad enough...They have also threatened Russia...Problem with Israeli 'leadership' is that they feel they must keep Jews in a constant state of fear of 'another holocaust'...Read Jewish professor, the late Israel Shahak on this ploy...Shahak survived WWII,; he lived in Poland...He just didn't appreciate fear mongering...Israel condemns own self by action of leadership and military in ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, let alone piracy and murder of Gaza relief workers...IMHO, Israel must join rest of human race...Israelis claim to follow Mosaic law, but turn all the commandments on their heads.
Seanus 15 | 19,742    
21 Jun 2010  #119
That's true but they don't seem to realise the minefield they are sitting on. They have eased the blockade on Gaza so they are not that tough after all.
Miguel Colombia - | 353    
21 Jun 2010  #120
Isn't it distressing to be a nazi, Seanus man?




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