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Should Poland be given ANY credit for ALLOWING Jews into Poland for 1000 years?


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11 Mar 2012  #31

Wasn't the only reason Jews were let into Poland because ONE king allowed them to? I don't see how Poles should be given credit for that.

Not one king, and I don't care about credit !by the way you are teat!

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11 Mar 2012  #32

You could call it......... terrible politics, ladykangaroo along with a few million others wouldnt have left Poland if the future held more hope.

You meant to say that millions of Poles would NOT have left Poland after World War II ..... IF American Franklin Delano Roosevelt and UK Winston Churchill did NOT sell out POLAND to STALINIST RUSSIA in Yalta in 1945 and then millions more as Poland fought off the communism in the 1980s .... again fighting off the communism brought upon Poland by USA and England .... even though Polish soldiers fought so bravely and many died during the WWII on the Allied side.
Wroclaw Boy  
11 Mar 2012  #33

How much longer are you planning on playing that card? there will come a time when its no longer a vaild excuse, whos fault will it be then? the EU i expect.
jasondmzk  
11 Mar 2012  #34

Not a single nation on this planet is populated with people whose ancestors were "ALLOWED" there. What a specious, whiny topic.
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11 Mar 2012  #35

What’s a big deal about Jews, I don’t really give a ……. of what they may or may not think of us. Who cares! Really? – this supposed to be about Poland, enough is enough!
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11 Mar 2012  #36

What a specious, whiny topic.

Agreed. The whole thing is just a reminder of who MediaWatch really is - a Jewish-obsessed individual who, despite admitting that he has no loyalty to Poland, uses Poland as a proxy in his war against the enemies in his head.

IF American Franklin Delano Roosevelt and UK Winston Churchill did NOT sell out POLAND to STALINIST RUSSIA in Yalta in 1945 and then millions more as Poland fought off the communism in the 1980s

Remind us. Who was in charge of the PRL in the 1980's? Ah, that's right - a Polish Catholic who was educated by the Jesuits and who came from a pretty well off family.
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11 Mar 2012  #37

Snake pit???

It's not playing "cards" - it's simply reminding the history. It is very hard to silence the History.
Interesting that you brought the European Union up. EU is just a scheme and a political fraud for the benefit of the Germans and a few other crooks. Many Poles would prefer NOT to be a part of the EU. Of course, you are a Wroclaw Boy, you should know that. Unless you are paid to pretend to be a Wroclaw Boy.
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12 Mar 2012  #38

It is not ignorant,arrogant or self serving to point out hypocrisy.As for Poland having been autonomous all this time......The U.S. has.I have absolutely no dislike for Poland.certain people post stuff that clearly berates America.It's as if they can'it distinguish the difference between

the people and the government.No matter how long it has been around;Poland has had immigrants and had to establish it's national identity.

My response is to people who say ignorant things about Americans.If you read my posts; you will see that I do not in any way try to berate

Poland or her citizens.The arrogance of some statements made on this site are laughable when pertaining to Polonia.We're all privy to hypocrisy,myself included.the question is are we aware.
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12 Mar 2012  #39

Interesting that you brought the European Union up. EU is just a scheme and a political fraud for the benefit of the Germans and a few other crooks.

I don't call freedom of capital, movement, labour and services to be a "scheme" and "fraud".

Unless of course, you like the idea of Poles sitting unemployed and poor rather than becoming wealthy.

Many Poles would prefer NOT to be a part of the EU.

Opinion polls consistently show a solid majority in favour.

The latest figures also very clearly show what the EU has done for Poland in terms of lifting people out of poverty.
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12 Mar 2012  #40

Well said ladykangaroo,

Its not necessarily "Patriotism" because somebody emphathizes and sympathizes with a certain person, group of people or nation.

I think everybody has the right to empathize or sympathize with anybody or anything they want. We see this all the time with sports teams that we root for....as a simple example.

I think its just human nature for people to empathize and sympathize with certain people, places and things. Why is this so wrong? Especially when somebody has family and ancestral connections to that group of people or nation and especially when sympathizers see that group of people/nation being maligned all the time?

By the way, the basis of the criticism of Poles for their "anti-semitism" is based on many in the international media who have "Patriotism" towards the Jewish people. I guess that kind of patriotism is ok but "patriotism" towards Polish people is not. Interesting double standards :(
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12 Mar 2012  #41

You have to figure out if the majority Polish citizens hate Jews before labeling them anti semitic. There's always going to be clowns who do, but what do the people who matter and government officials think?
Wroclaw Boy  
12 Mar 2012  #42

I think everybody has the right to empathize or sympathize with anybody or anything they want.

Look, I am a firm believer in one world one people, i support multiculturalism as a vital process of human evolution. Patriotism and even worse nationalism often hinders this. i have no issue with people connecting to their roots, being proud of their heritage, religion, food, customs etc etc..

However when certain people start to talk up Poland as if its the best thing since sliced bread especially when THEY have left to work abroad, it gets me thinking why? and the answer is usually embarrassment or blind patriotism.
jasondmzk  
12 Mar 2012  #43

I am a firm believer in one world one people, i support multiculturalism as a vital process of human evolution. Patriotism and even worse nationalism often hinders this.

I'm frightened when I start to agree with WB. It makes me want to check and see if the moon has turned blood red, and if toads are falling from the sky...
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12 Mar 2012  #44

Janusz Palikot of the non-megalomaniacally named (?!) Ruch Palikota (Palikot's Movement) recently said something to the effect that Poles should abandon their Polishness. So I reckon there are one-worlders in Poland as well. On second thought, Palikot will do or say anything to advance his politcial career.
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12 Mar 2012  #45

It's not playing "cards" - it's simply reminding the history. It is very hard to silence the History.

Does that explain why there is always complete silence when one asks what was the price that Britain sold Poland for? And why there is always silence when one asks about the ways in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations with regard to Poland?

Of course there isn't actually silence when one asks those questions: in reality one receives insults and pathetic lies when one asks such questions.
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12 Mar 2012  #46

Well said WB. Poland is supposed to be such a great country yet many people are leaving it LOL!

I'm frightened when I start to agree with WB. It makes me want to check and see if the moon has turned blood red, and if toads are falling from the sky...

I'm a little frightened myself.
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12 Mar 2012  #47

And why there is always silence when one asks about the ways in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations with regard to Poland?

Must that the answer fells on your def ears !

I'm a little frightened myself.

you should, any time somebody can pull the flash.
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12 Mar 2012  #48

I support multiculturalism and immigration, just in a controlled way. Multiculturalism teaches people about each other and is a pillar of the churc. Jesus is a supporter of multiculturalism.
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12 Mar 2012  #49

Jesus was dimissive of Romans and, according to one account, told his disciples not to spread the word among the Gentiles. Not very inclusive.
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12 Mar 2012  #50

The Romans were not multicultural. They were invaders and rulers. If a Roman would have approached Jesus wanting to learn more, Jesus would have accepted him. Jesus was all about accepting people. Even unpopular people like brutal tax collectors. In times of strife New Testament is the authority on how to handle things.
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12 Mar 2012  #51

The Romans disliked the Christians because they viewed them as insulting to people of other faiths. The Romans were very inclusive, because they had to be.
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12 Mar 2012  #52

Jesus was dimissive of Romans

It could be because Romans were oppressive of Jews.
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12 Mar 2012  #53

The Romans were brutal rulers taking hostage various locations so they could take treasures and resources back to Rome. They crucified anyone who was not a Roman citizen. Christians were upset when Jesus was crucified so the followers went to Rome causing trouble so the Roman rulers started despising Christians. The Church is one of the most multicultural institutions on earth.

Jesus tells us to forgive, pray for those who persecute you and turn the other cheek.
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12 Mar 2012  #54

While the germans, spaniards, italians, french kicked the jews out of their countries and murdered them for silly reasons such as "kidnapping children" and "Killing Jesus", the poles embraced the jews and let them practice their religion in peace.

The history of the Jews in Poland dates back over a millennium. For centuries, Poland was home to the largest and most significant Jewish community in the world. Poland was the centre of Jewish culture thanks to a long period of statutory religious tolerance and social autonomy. This ended with the Partitions of Poland, in particular, with the persecution of Jews by Tsarist Russian authorities.

You can read more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Poland

And don't even bother replying on this post Harry and Delph since i dont give a crap about your opinion you trolls :)
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12 Mar 2012  #55

Plastic Pole.

Catholics don't like to study the development of Christianity. As a Christian, it interests me. You should learn more about it - it really is fascinating stuff.
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12 Mar 2012  #56

Jesus is a supporter of multiculturalism.

Thank God I'm an atheist ;)
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12 Mar 2012  #57

Don't try to make atheists look bad.
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12 Mar 2012  #58

Must that the answer fells on your def ears !

I'd love to listen but you always refuse to answer the question. Or perhaps now you finally can tell what was the price that Britain sold Poland for? And about the ways in which Britain failed to live up to her treaty obligations with regard to Poland?

While the germans, spaniards, italians, french kicked the jews out of their countries and murdered them for silly reasons such as "kidnapping children" and "Killing Jesus", the poles embraced the jews and let them practice their religion in peace.

Clearly the name Henryk Blaszczyk means nothing to you. Or perhaps you have forgotten all about the most well-know post-war pogrom?
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12 Mar 2012  #59

Varsovian, I have studied , thank you. Maybe you should pick up a Giddeon's Bible and leaf through it from time to time. Read about the tolerant man Jesus Christ.
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12 Mar 2012  #60

No, I mean you should read about Christianity. Try "Jesus of Nazareth" by Paula Fredriksen. I don't agree with everything she says, but it's a start.




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