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What connects Poland with Vlad Impaler or to say Vlad Tepes or simple Dracula


OP Crow 146 | 7,594    
28 May 2010  #31
Since we're at it, what happened to the Order?

exist even today. Many seek to call itself Draconists

Original Dragon Order that was created by Serbians dispersed Dragon tradition via Poland (not surprisingly- via Sarmatian connection) all over the Europe.

as Milos Obilic said before entered in Kosovo battle to sacrifice himself in attempt to kill Turkish Sultan Murat (only Sultan that was killed on European-Turkish wars), while took his helmet in the shape of Dragon:

true Sarmat, Voivode Obilic in Kosovo battle, 1389, Serbs vs. Turks

FROM THE CHAOS

THERE IS ORDER.

FROM THE ORDER

THERE IS THE DRAGON.

WITH THE DRAGON

THERE IS VICTORY.

HAIL DRAGON! HAIL VICTORY!

Obilic lived as true Sarmat. Exactly that`s how he died, too. He brake the Turkish lines, killed Sultan Murad himself and then was slain by the rest of Sultan`s axe bodyguards. They cut Obilic to the little minces, while stomack of Sultan went out. It was too late for the head of the serpent (Sultan). Dragon (Obilic) did the job!

would be order again, would be Dragon, would be Sarmatia. God would help
MareGaea 29 | 2,763    
28 May 2010  #32
I thought Vlad was Walachian, hence descending from the Dacians, hence Romanian, hence not Slavic? So to answer your question: nothing.

But he did like the Turks so much indeed, he decided to invent the Turk-skewer.

:)

Slavic brotherhood

Non existent.

>^..^<

M-G (tiens)
OP Crow 146 | 7,594    
29 May 2010  #33
Non existent

we can only note that western Europe, Islamists and Israel really doing their best to prove this statement. When it comes to Slavs they are all united. They interfere in inter-Slavic relations, all by old principle `divide and conquer`

bottom line is that they have great fear from Serbs. They have bigger fear from Serbs then from Russians. They are clever

descending from the Dacians, hence Romanian, hence not Slavic?

for your information

Dacians were Sarmatians, meaning Slavs. Romanians are result of romanization imposed on Dacian population that happened after the Roman onslaught of Dacia.

The topic: What connects Poland with Vlad Impaler or to say Vlad Tepes or simple Dracula

and there is that story about Polish nobleman who visited Vlad of Ordo Draconis (The Dracula)

The Polish Nobleman
angelfire.com/realm/shades/demons/vampires/vlad9anecdotespolishnobleman.htm

Benedict de Boithor, a Polish nobleman in the service of the King of Hungary, visited Dracula at Tirgoviste in September of 1458. At dinner one evening Dracula ordered a golden spear brought and set up directly in from of the royal envoy.

Dracula then asked the envoy why he thought this spear had been set up. Benedict replied that he imagined that some boyar had offended the prince and that Dracula intended to honor him. Dracula then responded that he had, in fact, had the spear set up in honor of his noble, Polish guest.

Des Essientes 7 | 1,296    
9 Jan 2011  #34
When the Poles invaded Moldavia in 1450 Dracula fought them at the battle of Crasna.
GUZY 5 | 8    
27 Mar 2011  #35
Crow

Crow, do you have historical evidence of the quote? I have seen Misericors, Pius et Justus on ancient insignia, but the below only on internet. Can you confirm if this was used during the reign of Order of the Dragon?

FROM THE CHAOS

THERE IS ORDER.

FROM THE ORDER

THERE IS THE DRAGON.

WITH THE DRAGON

THERE IS VICTORY.

HAIL DRAGON! HAIL VICTORY!
OP Crow 146 | 7,594    
27 Mar 2011  #36
Can you confirm if this was used during the reign of Order of the Dragon?

Quote stays in connection with Dragon Order but, i can`t guarantee that quote was used in time of original Dragon Order.

Dragon Order is historical fact and you can read about it in, to say that way- `serious sources` but as for that particular quote and for many other particular things, you must investigate for yourself. While doing so have in mind that Dragon Order exist since 138* year to the modern days in many different variations.

Order of the Dragon

youtube.com/watch?v=YeTfVanmy3o
JB82    
23 Mar 2014  #37
Vlads full name was Vladislav... there are documents showing he wrote that himself in in slavic and latin.. his administration was conducted in old church slavonic.. his other family members also had slavic names... how can you say there is no connection to him being a slav?
gregy741 3 | 1,122    
23 Mar 2014  #38
Vlads one of his son called Mircea II fought alongside Polish army in Crusade of Varna,in wiki its written under "preparation" part of article

" some 7,000[5] Wallachian cavalrymen under Mircea II, one of Vlad Dracul's sons, also joined."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Varna
OP Crow 146 | 7,594    
22 Dec 2014  #39
At one Serbian site i founded more informations on Polish (Commonwealth, Baltic) nobility that took part in membership or sponsorship of the Dragon Order. Truly makes me happy and satisfied to see that after Serbian Voivode Milos Obilic founded original Dragon Order, in attempt to gather as bigger as possible supporting Slavic power around Serbian Empire that was invaded by the Ottoman Turks,... that many famous Polish nobility responded when order was revived by the Sigismund of Hungary and Stefan Lazarevic of Serbia.

Stibor of Stiboricz (founding member of revived Dragon Order, together with Serbian Prince Stefan Lazarevic and Sigismund von Luxemburg, King of Hungary)

Vladislas II (Ladislaus Jagiellon) of Bohemia and Hungary

Grand Duke Vytautas of Lithuania

King Ladislas of Poland

Source: Tag Archives: Nemanjici - Order of Dragon and Stefan Lazar, Prince of Serbia
thesoulsofwarriors.wordpress.com/tag/nemanjici/
Levi_BR 6 | 220    
23 Dec 2014  #40
Everytime i call a Romanian a Slav, they say that they are as latin as me.

I Think that most of them prefer to identify themselves as latins.
OP Crow 146 | 7,594    
24 Mar 2016  #41
FROM THE CHAOS

THERE IS ORDER.

See, there would be order in Europe, again.
OP Crow 146 | 7,594    
2 Sep 2018  #42
Era of partition ending and we Sarmatians entering in era of reclamation.

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Dragon is back.
Vlad1234 10 | 312    
5 Nov 2018  #43
In the middle ages this type of execution was very popular in many places of the World including middle east, Ottaman empire and Eastern Europe. Poles, Lithuanians, Russians and Ottamans used it extensively against Ukrainian Cossacks and rebelling Ukrainians, Russians and Belorussians. Many tens of thousands of Ukrainians were killed in this way. Poles used it against Ukrainians up to the end of 18-th century. For example a Polish magnate Jeremy Vishnevetski who was of Polish, Ukrainian, Lithuanian and Moldovan (Romanian) ancestry ordered just at once to impale 10.000 captured Ukrainians simultaneously as a vengeance for his defeat in one of the battles with them. He experienced many more defeats than victories (if any).



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