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75th anniversary of Stalin's 1937-38 anti-Poland genocide


Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Aug 2012 #1
So much is said about Katyń that not many people know that in 1937-38 Stalin's Jewish henchman Nikolai Yezhov signed ordered a murederous anti-Polsih rampage that left up to 140,000 Poles dead. Just being Polish was enough the earn the death penalty. Eventually Yezhov also got the axe.

To mark that anniversary, check out:

videopediaworld.com/nvp/econfig.php?key=9e6fbcce919955738fc7
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
11 Aug 2012 #2
Just being alive was enough to earn the death penalty under those savages :(
teflcat 5 | 1,032
11 Aug 2012 #3
Stalin's Jewish henchman Nikolai Yezhov

I wonder if you refer to other figures as Stalin's Christian henchman.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Aug 2012 #4
The video speaks of Dzierżyński but fails to mention he was a deranged, renegade Polish nobleman. You get those too once in a great while!
delphiandomine 85 | 18,359
11 Aug 2012 #5
The video speaks of Dzierżyński but fails to mention he was a deranged, renegade Polish nobleman.

Just like it's rarely mentioned how the first President of the 3rd Republic was a good Catholic schoolboy.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Aug 2012 #6
Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

According to Jewish commnetator Sever Plocker, 'I find it unacceptable that a person will be considered a member of the Jewish people when he does great things, but not considered part of our people when he does amazingly despicable things. Even if we deny it, we cannot escape the Jewishness of "our hangmen," who served the Red Terror with loyalty and dedication from its establishment.'
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
11 Aug 2012 #7
I wonder if you refer to other figures as Stalin's Christian henchman.

There is a case for *outing* the background of a lot of Stalins most loyal lackeys TBH Tef' ,if only for a bit of historical perspective. The trouble is,so many had false names,nom de russkie if you like...

*Funny * fact of the day,that Meercat from the adverts is called Aleksander Orlov.....

Alexander Mikhailovich Orlov (Russian: Александр Михайлович Орлов), born Lev Feldbin, 21 August 1895 – 25 March 1973), was a General in the Soviet secret police and NKVD Rezident in the Second Spanish Republic. In 1938, Orlov refused to return to the Soviet Union because he realized that he would be executed, and fled with his family to the U.S.. He is known mostly for secretly transporting the entire gold reserve of Spanish Republic to the USSR and for his book, The Secret History of Stalin's Crimes.

However, Orlov's main task in Spain remained arresting and executing Trotskyites, Anarchists, Roman Catholics supportive of Francisco Franco's forces, and other suspected foes of the Second Spanish Republic. Documents released from the NKVD archives detail a massive number of Orlov's crimes in Spain. He was responsible for fabricating the evidence which led to the arrest and summary execution of members of the Workers' Party of Marxist Unification (POUM). He also directed the kidnapping and execution of the POUM leader Andreu

Not sure if this will play in all locations but, the article quoted Niall fergusons book, War of the World.
The documentry he made for British TV was cracking.

part 1 of 4.
teflcat 5 | 1,032
11 Aug 2012 #8
There is a case for *outing* the background of a lot of Stalins most loyal lackeys TBH Tef' ,

I don't have a problem with that. It's just that the OP is an aggressive far-right wing Catholic who uses every opportunity to put forth anti-Jewish propoganda.
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
11 Aug 2012 #9
Lols, just spotted a young Miriam Margolyes in Carry on Camping.........Jewish you know,and the voice of the sexy bunny in the Caramel adverts :)

Errrr, But,its not like being Jewish saved your neck in Stalins Russia so I dont think there is much substance to any attempt at anti jewish propaganda.

I just think its interesting that such a large percentage (compared to general population levels) of Jewish people were high ranking stalinist officials.
Was it something to do with them being better educated at the time than the average russian serf?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Aug 2012 #10
Most of Stalin's followers and actviists were Russian, and that is as it shojuld be. There were also Latvians, Poles, Armenians, Georgians, Ukrainians and others aiding his reign of terror, but why is it that of all the minorities Jews were the most overrepresented? That was aso the case in early PRL with and Berman's gang of Jewish saddists: Fejgin, Brystygierowa, Romkowski, Różański and many others..

Christian henchmen is inapproptiate because we are not referring to followers of the Mosaic faith but people of Jewish ethnicity.
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
11 Aug 2012 #11
The abused becoming the abuser?
As mentioned before,higher levels of basic education and training in debate/reasoning from religious schooling?
teflcat 5 | 1,032
11 Aug 2012 #12
Christian henchmen is inapproptiate because we are not referring to followers of the Mosaic faith but people of Jewish ethnicity.

That's disingenuous. You're anti-Jew; why deny it?

saddists

What?

Was it something to do with them being better educated at the time than the average russian serf?

Sounds one possible, partial explanation.
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
11 Aug 2012 #13
Polonius3: Stalin's Jewish henchman Nikolai Yezhov --------------- I wonder if you refer to other figures as Stalin's Christian henchman.

Oh,look,the OP has been edited.....maybe because the quoted article clearly states Yezhov was NOT jewish......

But,predictably pathetic comments on that page,out of 360 posts most are calling it anti semitic just for pointing out not all Jews were *victims*.......FFS......Unfortunatly so many jews are like the french,they make it so hard for you to like them.....
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
11 Aug 2012 #14
If the Jews were better educated than Russian serfs, then they should have seen throuhg mankind's bloodiest butcher who even put Hitler and Attila the Hun to shame!
jon357 63 | 15,305
11 Aug 2012 #15
but why is it that of all the minorities Jews were the most overrepresented?

He deliberately drafted them since they were less likely to be Russian nationalists.

When Stalin (an ex seminarian) wanted something, the only choice was his.
isthatu2 4 | 2,704
11 Aug 2012 #16
then they should have seen throuhg

Tell us,just what would you have done if you'd been in Russia at the time and *seen through* the lies?
Write a strongly worded letter of protest to your local representative?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
11 Aug 2012 #17
He deliberately drafted them since they were less likely to be Russian nationalists.

Very true. To be honest I'm shocked that you finally start admitting such things.
jon357 63 | 15,305
11 Aug 2012 #18
What's the surprise. People who worked for Stalin had liottle or no choice in the matter and it's frankly unlikely that someone would be attracted to nationalism in a country that had discriminated against then terribly.

BTW, admiting what?

Trolling again?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
11 Aug 2012 #19
BTW, admiting what?

Well, so far it's been "you are anti-semitic", "being a Jew is nothing more than a religion" and such stuff on your side.
jon357 63 | 15,305
12 Aug 2012 #20
"being a Jew is nothing more than a religion"

Perhaps you'll link to a quote where I said that.

But somehow I doubt it.

Amazing how a troll can turn a thread about the Stalin years into something about race - without actually making any points either.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
12 Aug 2012 #21
Pathetic.

Polonius3:
but why is it that of all the minorities Jews were the most overrepresented?

He deliberately drafted them since they were less likely to be Russian nationalists.

You simply finally admitted the obvious. No need to deny it now.
jon357 63 | 15,305
12 Aug 2012 #22
the obvious

The obvious what?

Either start making sense or stop trolling.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
13 Aug 2012 #23
The obvious fact that Jews were overrepresented and the reasons behind it.
jon357 63 | 15,305
13 Aug 2012 #24
Because they were drafted into it and didn't have connections with the ancien regime. Read the thread.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,163
13 Aug 2012 #25
How were they drafted ? Please explain.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
14 Aug 2012 #26
So much is said about Katyń that not many people know that in 1937-38 Stalin's Jewish henchman Nikolai Yezhov signed ordered a murderous anti-Polish rampage that left up to 140,000 Poles dead.

All these vicious thugs like Stalin and Yagoda were doing all these sick inhuman demonic things in RUSSIA. WHY WHY WHY didn't the Russians do anything about it?

They say Stalin's original name was some ethnic impronounceable ethnic Georgian name that he changed to "Stalin" to mean STEAL in Russian.

They say he changed his Russian name to appease the Russian population. So I guess if you're a dirty filthy mass murdering freak of nature like Stalin......as long as you walk and talk like a Russian but do all types of sicko devil like inhuman things to millions of other human beings.....that's AAAYYYY OK with the masses of Russians. What the hell? Why didn't these Russians do anything about this psycopath? Unless of course this vicious way of life is acceptable to the average Russian?

To this day.......after knowing how horrible Stalin was.... polls in Russia TODAY show that Russians in general feel that Stalin was the THIRD GREATEST RUSSIAN. What is with these people??????
hola_chika - | 8
14 Aug 2012 #27
stalin, mussolini, hitler... these people were psychopath.. May their souls rest in ****
jon357 63 | 15,305
14 Aug 2012 #28
The Bolsheveiks won the Russian Civil war. Then he had the Gulag stystem.

They say Stalin's original name was some ethnic impronounceable ethnic Georgian name that he changed to "Stalin" to mean STEAL in Russian.

They say he changed his Russian name to appease the Russian population.

No, No, No.

His name wasn't unpronouncable - it was Dzugashvili. Translates to English as 'Shepherd. Stalin means 'man of steel' not 'steal' (why the capitals?) and he didn't change it to appease anyone, he adopted it as a pseudonym (one of several he used - his favourite was 'Soselo' the name under which he was a celebrated Georgian poet) while he was on the run from the Tsarist secret police.

Learn some history - preferably not from websites.
MediaWatch 10 | 945
14 Aug 2012 #29
I meant "man of steel"....my typo.

I heard these non-Russian psycopaths like Stalin and Lenin were always paranoid of being assasinated by the Russian public if they didn't "walk the walk as Russians" or "talk the talk as Russians" in Russia, These non-Russians knew they would have stood out like a sore thumb if they didn't keep up their "Russian appearances". Stalin publicly always applauded the Russian people over all of the other Soviet controlled nations to stay in the good graces of the Russian people.

Evidently he thought......as long as he walked and talked like a Russian......praised Russians.....the Russian masses wouldn't care if he killed millions of people if he made Russia "strong" as an outcome and sounded pro-Russian. Evidently he was right.

He and all his henchman went crazy joyfully murdering milions and millions of innocent non-Russians and Russians.......and the Russian people didn't do squat to stop him. This is demented.
legend 3 | 664
14 Aug 2012 #30
Communism and Nazism killed tens of millions. Two movements which saw millions of Poles killed.

Jews were overrepresented in key positions for several possible reasons. Large number of Jews in general were in politics, banking, lawyers partly because of history. The more "thinking" and less "working" type of jobs. Many Jews supported Communism compared to Nazism.

What Communism was and what it was intended to be were probably different things but there were some things even by Marx which were not really good ideas in my opinion.

Trotsky, Lenin, Kamenev, Stalin basically perverted Communism into an evil thing.

The same is true with Nazism. The raw ideology is okay but the way it manifested was evil as well.

In early and mid 1900s were barbaric times in much of Eastern Europe. I think though that Russians and Germans should be mostly forgiven. The memorizes of these events will forever live.


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