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Which nation were the biggest pussies of WWII?


Sokrates 8 | 3,346
18 Mar 2010 #91
So we know he already anticipated the guy so there was no intel to be had, he expected William to land sometime soon, again you managed to quote an article that defeats your own point, good job:)

Seriously? Really?

You're a bloody moron now you're acting like a prick as well, the fact is apart from few "uprisings" in larger Ghettos Jews went to death like sheep, in concentration camps most uprisings were organized by AK (Poles) rather then Jews, the fact is todays policies of Israel weigh heavily on the complex these people developed from walking sheepishly to their deaths in WW2.
time means 5 | 1,310
18 Mar 2010 #92
So we know he already anticipated the guy so there was no intel to be had, he expected William to land sometime soon

The intel was that William was planning an impending invasion. Do you think William sent him an invite with the date,time and place rsvp. Man you really are thick as fcuk.
convex 20 | 3,978
18 Mar 2010 #93
You're a bloody moron now you're acting like a prick as well, the fact is apart from few "uprisings" in larger Ghettos Jews went to death like sheep, in concentration camps most uprisings were organized by AK (Poles) rather then Jews, the fact is todays policies of Israel weigh heavily on the complex these people developed from walking sheepishly to their deaths in WW2.

No, you're a d*ck. Answer the question, or just tell me that how the Poles acted under communism was different because (enter excuse here).

Hell, the Jews weren't even an organized country, just a group of people.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,443
18 Mar 2010 #94
Answer the question, or just tell me that how the Poles acted under communism was different because (enter excuse here).

good point, but Sok will just come up with another slur;). I will come back to read his slurs later on.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
18 Mar 2010 #95
No, you're a d*ck. Answer the question, or just tell me that how the Poles acted under communism was different because (enter excuse here).

You mean the same communism that Poles were so crucial at toppling? The same communism that caused rebellious movements at various stages including 56? Its not my problem that you're a moron who doesnt know Polish history yet tries to discuss it.

Polish populace was by and large opposed to communism and whenever an opportunity arose opposed it ultimately being the key factor in topping down the Warsaw Pact.

Hell, the Jews weren't even an organized country, just a group of people.

Doesnt matter, they were extremely well organized in peace time, they were well organized when wiping out Poles as Soviet minions, but when it came to defending themselves suddenly it was a no go.
king polkagamon
18 Mar 2010 #96
The biggest pussies were the Danish without doubt.They asked Hitler when he liked to invade in order to clean the cities for the arrival of German troops.Germans completed the occupation in 24 hours with zero losses from both sides.They kept the country till the end of the war in May 1945 since there was no resistance at all except some parrots.
convex 20 | 3,978
18 Mar 2010 #97
You mean the same communism that Poles were so crucial at toppling? The same communism that caused rebellious movements at various stages including 56? Its not my problem that you're a moron who doesnt know Polish history yet tries to discuss it.

Yay, 40 years later. The same Poland that invaded the Czechoslovakia. I'm sure if the Jews were given 40 years, they probably would have had a fighting chance too.

Doesnt matter, they were extremely well organized in peace time

Who exactly? The normal people working in the countryside? The ones working in the cities? You seem to confuse the minority with the majority. The majority of Jews worked just like you and I...in normal jobs.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
18 Mar 2010 #98
Who exactly? The normal people working in the countryside? The ones working in the cities? You seem to confuse the minority with the majority. The majority of Jews worked just like you and I...in normal jobs.

All of them?:) You need to learn something about Poland before attempting disccussion.

Yay, 40 years later. The same Poland that invaded the Czechoslovakia. I'm sure if the Jews were given 40 years, they probably would have had a fighting chance too.

Polish goverment did not represent Polish people, Poland was not a sovereign country therefore no responsibility can be taken for invasion of Czechoslovakia, resistance was continued from day one so that point is also moot.
convex 20 | 3,978
18 Mar 2010 #99
All of them?:) You need to learn something about Poland before attempting disccussion.

The majority of them. Just normal people trying to make a living, trying to make sure their kids had a decent life.

Polish goverment did not represent Polish people, Poland was not a sovereign country therefore no responsibility can be taken for invasion of Czechoslovakia, resistance was continued from day one so that point is also moot.

Wrong, Polish people invaded. They were riding in the tanks. I don't judge all Poles based on that one action. I know how easy it is to get people go along with an idea. It's a failure with humanity in general...
enkidu 7 | 623
18 Mar 2010 #100
I have got a deepest respect for the soldiers. A would never call a "pussy" somebody who did fought in the WW2.

As for countries and politicians?
I think that the biggest pussy of the WW2 is the country who did wait until everything was clear. An then they did made alliance with the winning side. That way they catch up for the last final moments of the war.

It's like somebody would become a great supporter of the winning team on the last few minutes of the match. Pussies.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
18 Mar 2010 #101
Poland was not a sovereign country therefore no responsibility can be taken for invasion of Czechoslovakia

The invasion of Czechoslovakia is part of Polish history, and responsible for it was the Polish government of that time - even if it acted on behalf of the Soviets. Why is it so hard to accept that?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
18 Mar 2010 #102
The invasion of Czechoslovakia is part of Polish history

Absolutely.

and responsible for it was the Polish government of that time - even if it acted on behalf of the Soviets. Why is it so hard to accept that

Absolutely.I accept both however both the goverment and the army were detached from the direction the nation went, Invasion of Czechoslovakia just like the 50 years of communism in Poland were against the will of the vast majority of Poles, Poland like every country boils down to the people not the goverment.

You cant blame Poland for what was not our national sovereign decision, it wasnt even the sovereign decision of our leadership, refusal would mean joining the Czechs in the crapper.

The majority of them. Just normal people trying to make a living, trying to make sure their kids had a decent life.

You might want to check the numbers in Solidarność.
Mr Grunwald 29 | 1,945
18 Mar 2010 #103
Yay, 40 years later. The same Poland that invaded the Czechoslovakia.

So if Nazi Germany invaded Sweden and did it with help from Norwegian Nazi's (Quisling + Nasjonal Samling) would you said that Norway invaded Sweden?

It's just absurd
TheOther 5 | 3,711
18 Mar 2010 #104
Invasion of Czechoslovakia just like the 50 years of communism in Poland were against the will of the vast majority of Poles

That's the question here. On what facts do you base your assumption that the vast majority of Poles were against communism and the invasion of Czechoslovakia? Wasn't it more like a few million party members were all for it, the vast majority of the people didn't really care and arranged themselves with the system, and a small minority were against it? I mean, that's how it was in all countries of the former East Bloc (as far as I know). So why would Poland be different?
czar 1 | 143
19 Mar 2010 #105
It's easy to say that now as time has past but, at those times nobody knew of the holocaust except those who was experiencing it every day or those who were informed of it.

like the vatican right

Seriously? Really? So which countries were the biggest pussies during communist times?

i dont underndstand, yes I was looking for a serious answer, during communist times? not poland right with solidarity and all, I mean money was given to rebuild germany and japan and england but not poland.

Hell, the Jews weren't even an organized country, just a group of people.

I get its polands fault all the jews died, but the jews were not polish, they were just looking for the best host body. pre ww2 poland also fought in the russian revolution when stalin was infantry. pre ww2 poland jews were very much in segregated communities like they are now.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
19 Mar 2010 #106
dont underndstand, yes I was looking for a serious answer, during communist times? not poland right with solidarity and all, I mean money was given to rebuild germany and japan and england but not poland.

Oh dear you really do not understand....Britain repaid its debt to America a couple of years ago for WWII ....we gained nothing, we didnt get a red cent, quite the oposite the war ruined us...we had DEBT and poverty..we rebuilt our cities off our own back... we were not part of the EU, no funding....we did by ourselves....
czar 1 | 143
19 Mar 2010 #107
Oh dear you really do not understand

sorry that was my writing, i was mentioning three differant things in one sentence.

fact is no reparations were paid to poland in fact it was left to sabatoge
enkidu 7 | 623
19 Mar 2010 #108
Oh dear you really do not understand....Britain repaid its debt to America a couple of years ago for WWII ....we gained nothing, we didnt get a red cent, quite the oposite the war ruined us...we had DEBT and poverty..we rebuilt our cities off our own back... we were not part of the EU, no funding....we did by ourselves....

yawn...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
19 Mar 2010 #109
You rely on Wiki? You deserve PRICK OF THE FORUM I was wrong!
jonni 16 | 2,485
19 Mar 2010 #110
yawn...

Troll.

Marshall_Plan

Over before the Festival of Britain.
convex 20 | 3,978
19 Mar 2010 #111
So if Nazi Germany invaded Sweden and did it with help from Norwegian Nazi's (Quisling + Nasjonal Samling) would you said that Norway invaded Sweden?

Read it in context. The idea was that the Jews didn't do enough during WW2. My comment was simply that using that logic, Poles also didn't do enough during communism. But yes, Norway would have also invaded Sweden. How is that absurd?

You cant blame Poland for what was not our national sovereign decision, it wasnt even the sovereign decision of our leadership, refusal would mean joining the Czechs in the crapper.

Whereas the Jews decided to die? You're saying here that the Jews were pussies because they didn't resist, and Poles were noble because they only put up with communism for 40 years? Only accepted partition for 125 years?
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
19 Mar 2010 #112
Whereas the Jews decided to die?

No, they decided not to fight and die quietly.

You're saying here that the Jews were pussies because they didn't resist

Exactly.

Poles were noble because they only put up with communism for 40 years?

No they were "noble" because they resisted it for 40 years.

years? Only accepted partition for 125 years?

Again its either your lies or manipulations, Poles unlike Jews never accepted defeat, during the 125 years of partitions there were a total of 5 major uprisings two of which were regular wars and ultimately after 125 years the Poles took their freedom back themselves, no one gave it to them so whats your point?

There's simply no comparison with pre-Israel Jewish populace, Poles were always fighting even if there wasnt much hope, Jews just went sheepishly to the chambers.
TheOther 5 | 3,711
19 Mar 2010 #113
Sokrates

Would you mind to answer #104, please? I'm really interested.
jonni 16 | 2,485
19 Mar 2010 #114
just went sheepishly

Get a dictionary.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
20 Mar 2010 #115
Wasn't it more like a few million party members were all for it, the vast majority of the people didn't really care and arranged themselves with the system, and a small minority were against it? I mean, that's how it was in all countries of the former East Bloc (as far as I know). So why would Poland be different?

Really? Could please tell me please how it was in say Hungary? Czechoslovakia? Why were they so enthusiastically pro-communist?

That's the question here. On what facts do you base your assumption that the vast majority of Poles were against communism

On what facts do you base your assumption that the vast majority of Poles were for communism?

Check the popularity of communist party before WW2, and on what facts? The government had to regularly forge elections thats a fact and stone proof that in Poland communism was not supported.
wildrover 98 | 4,451
20 Mar 2010 #117
Yep...defeated in three weeks....dismal performance....Oh hang on , that wasn,t Britain..it was sombody else....??
skysoulmate 14 | 1,296
20 Mar 2010 #118
Big pussies of WWII? Hmm, hard to tell, this is such a technical term... LOL

Seriously though and very regretfully I'd have to say Sweden maybe? (that's where I was raised) After all, Sweden was selling iron ore, steel and other metals to both sides in the war... Not that Sweden had any real choice but nevertheless.

Other big pussies to point out... ;)

Here's one:

Big pussy cat
wildrover 98 | 4,451
20 Mar 2010 #119
Blimey...If you had dropped that cat on Berlin , the Germans would soon have given up....!
TheOther 5 | 3,711
20 Mar 2010 #120
Why were they so enthusiastically pro-communist

On what facts do you base your assumption that the vast majority of Poles were for communism?

You misunderstood. What I said was that the vast majority of people in the former East Bloc had arranged themselves with the system. They weren't communists, they didn't care too much about politics. So, I was questioning your statement that the majority of Poles were anti-communist. I believe that they - as everybody else in the east - simply adjusted to the system and tried to live a good life. Read post #104 again, please.

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