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Kaczynski's Legacy


gregy741 3 | 784    
15 Apr 2010  #31

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Kaczynski was a very pasionate politician and this made him very controvelcial,but one must say he had a very good heart, personal dignity,and he always stood firm in what he belived was just. a virtues that not many polish politytians has.Tusk is a clown,like Sarkozy or Blair.He was a Great Patriot -something that liberals hated him for.there is no place for patriotism in EU Kolchoz.Walesa is a celebrity,an idiot.even those people who were fighting comunism whithin solidarity (like walyntowicz)couldt stand him enymore.

R.I.P


Crow 133 | 5,340    
17 Apr 2010  #32

Kaczynski, awakened Dragon of new Poland

Kaczynski was awakened Dragon of new Poland, first in the new generation of Sarmatian Dragons. But, many would come after him, many

Kaczynski proved that being patriotic means being prosperous, that being patriotic means being multicultural, that being patriotic means being tolerant, that being patriotic means being in balance with nature. He gave his best to balance and respond on challenge. Kaczynski would be remembered, not only by Poles

Sarmatian Dragon

Lech Kaczyński

RIP brave Mr. Kaczynski
Olga 1 | 330    
17 Apr 2010  #33

Kaczynski would be remembered, not only by Poles

Agreed. The man was incorruptible, humble, and had much integrity--all-but-extinct qualities in a politician these days.
richasis 1 | 419    
17 Apr 2010  #34

that being patriotic means being multicultural,

This is a joke, right? Oh, like the West. :)
Filios1 8 | 1,336    
17 Apr 2010  #35

-something that liberals hated him for.there is no place for patriotism in EU Kolchoz

Best post I have seen in a few weeks....

Thank you Gregy, the world has hope after all.
anton888 - | 82    
17 Apr 2010  #36

Kaczynski was a very pasionate politician and this made him very controvelcial,but one must say he had a very good heart, personal dignity,and he always stood firm in what he belived

I totally agreed on that, he was a good person.
But he was not a good stateman. A good stateman is looking for interest for the country, improve gerneral living standard of the citizens, bring the country forward, create a better future. Unfortunately he in fact demonstrated opposite, using majority for energy struggle with the past do not do any good to the young generation.
Crow 133 | 5,340    
17 Apr 2010  #37

Oh, like the West. :)

not multicultural in degeneric sense as it is on so called west but, in the sense as it was understood in Yugoslavia
jeden - | 251    
17 Apr 2010  #38

This is a joke, right? Oh, like the West. :)

no like in Najjaśniejszej Rzeczypospolitej...

The Greatest Republik (Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth or The Republik of Both Nations)
was multicultural country. It was very significant when foreigners asked typical ciztizens...

--who are you

-I`m Lithuenian

-but you are fighting for Poland!!??

-yes coz I`m Plish too,

-so are you Pole or Lithuenian? What is your native language?

-Ruse ( Belarusian)

;-)
Seanus 15 | 19,751    
17 Apr 2010  #39

Lech did have traits that I liked. He took an active stand in regional politics, staying true to principle on some issues. Although being somewhat solemn, he did have a sense of humour and showed the relaxed side of himself. He also resisted Tusk who developed elaborate plans for himself. Tusk is devious like a Romulan.
Harry 67 | 12,861    
17 Apr 2010  #40

that is all it is filios.. let it be.. kaczka was nowhere near the stature of Wałęsa.. learn to live with it buddy.. that is the TRUTH!

Filios isn't very good at living with the truth: look how hard he denies being a Jew!
gregy741 3 | 784    
17 Apr 2010  #41

plk123:
that is all it is filios.. let it be.. kaczka was nowhere near the stature of Wałęsa.. learn to live with it buddy.. that is the TRUTH!

who is this stature Walesa you are talking about???? this traitor Bolek who colaborated with communists,and then tried to hide by clearing archives/-no Bolek no Wawel for you
Crnogorac3 1 | 172    
18 Apr 2010  #42

As for the president's disobedience towards the EU and impact on policy, which was not quite so small...

He fought against the Polish dependence on Russian gas, he wished to break the influential oligarchy and limit the influence of people from the former regime, supported the strong state influence on the economy (lesser privatization) and wanted to transform Poland into a country with a strong emphasis on national and spiritual values, banned the gay parade in Warsaw, opposed the EU constitution.

Poland at the time of recession is the only country in Europe with economic growth, the only one not to fall for the fraud of swine flu, opposes the imposition of the ideals that are destroying the foundations of society.

There are plenty of reasons for destabilizing such a state with the removal of the top. Destruction of a team that led a defined policy. Another tragedy in the same place. For those who do not believe the official press releases, this is a symbolic message.
Seanus 15 | 19,751    
18 Apr 2010  #43

As ever, spot on with the commentary. Poland was not going to let the pharmaceutical companies profit from a fraud/hoax. Poland quarantined the isolated case and nothing more came of it, no exaggerated hysteria.

He was also not going to plunge Poland into unprecedented national debt, or allow anyone to do it. He had an able advisor who highly regrettably perished, RIP.

Although I don't think LK struck the balance between Europe's stance on human rights and Poland's, his conservatism will be seen favourably years down the line given the rampant liberalism of the West. The word liberalism is an affront to John Stuart Mill who coined pure liberalism. Now we see free riding and polluting of cultures without any gratitude. We shouldn't pick up the tab for others and LK knew it well. I liked this pragmatic side of his conservatism.

The bottom line is that he was NOT a yes-man. He stuck in the craw of the globalists and had the potential to hamper their ideals. Did this mean that they assassinated him? No, but it gives rise to the possibility that there is info that a select few know that the overwhelming majority don't. Unlike 9/11, intel agencies are silent on this point!
OP ShawnH 8 | 1,507    
12 May 2010  #44

Might it be that his legacy may include the thenews.pl/radio/news/artykul131363_kaczynski-gains-ground-on-komorowski.html election of his twin brother to the presidency of the RP?
plk123 8 | 4,169    
12 May 2010  #45

^^ let's hope not.
delphiandomine 57 | 15,090    
23 Jun 2013  #46

Merged: The wisdom of Jaroslaw Kaczynski, in his own words

I thought this would make a nice little thread for anyone considering voting for PiS at any point in the future.

I think we can start with this pearl -

"Immediately after the official results, we are ready to start talks with the Platform about economic policy. We are deeply convinced that they can be effective."

successories.com/iquote/author/10780/jaroslaw-kaczynski-quotes/1

Let's not forget his words about Silesians.

Queried about the passage at a press conference, PiS leader Jarosław Kaczyński didn't back off. He said that those who go even further, by claiming that there is a "Silesian nation" were, in his opinion, really declaring their Germanness, albeit it in a "camouflaged" way.

wbj.pl/article-54036-kaczynski-accuses-silesians-of-germanness.html
Grandmaster - | 8    
23 Jun 2013  #47

I must agree with Kaczyński on RAŚ, they're indeed pro-germanic going as far as praising the Nazis, while i disagree with Kaczyński a lot here he was spot on.
sobieski 109 | 2,132    
23 Jun 2013  #48

But then not the Kaczyński (because he is not able to think anyway) nor the pfers cannot recognize regionalism even when it would bite them.
pawian 127 | 6,581    
23 Jun 2013  #49

Delph, not that I am jealous or sth... :):):)

But I think I should tell you one thing....

namely, that there is already a thread about him and about what he says.

Don`t get me wrong.
delphiandomine 57 | 15,090    
23 Jun 2013  #50

namely, that there is already a thread about him and about what he says.

I couldn't find it, I could have sworn that it existed already :(
pawian 127 | 6,581    
23 Jun 2013  #51

that it existed already :(

yes, it has existed for a few years now. :):)
smurf 39 | 2,011    
24 Jun 2013  #52

albeit it in a "camouflaged" way.

I wouldn't mind if Silesia became part of Germany to be frank. Better roads/infrastructure etc and there wouldn't be so much effin dog-sh!te everywhere.

Easier language to learn too.

But its obviously nonsense, I know loads of RAS supports here and none of them feel "German".
I would fully support Silesia becoming a federal Polish state though. Don't see the advantage of Warsaw dictating how Silesian tax money is spent.

Sure, tis well-known that Silesia is the richest region in Poland, but the place is kind of a kip coz of its mismanagement over the years.

Finally Katowice is getting a much needed facelift, but most of the other surrounding cities are dumps - Zabrze, Chorzow, Ruda Slaska etc.
Of the lot only Gliwice, Zory Tychy are decent. Kato is much improved though in the last few years, long may it continue.
Grzegorz_ 52 | 6,248    
24 Jun 2013  #53

Finally Katowice is getting a much needed facelift, but most of the other surrounding cities are dumps - Zabrze, Chorzow, Ruda Slaska etc.

Do you realize central government has nothing to do with how the streets in city x look like ? I'm for giving more power to (all) regions, however it has nothing really to do with fixing sidewalks in Ruda Śląska, that can be easily done at the moment If only local authorities do the right job. A fact that RAŚ types blame "Warsaw" for everything, including dog shyt on the streets, simply proves that they are Polonophobic and pro-Germanic koonts.
pawian 127 | 6,581    
24 Jun 2013  #54

I would fully support Silesia becoming a federal Polish state though. Don't see the advantage of Warsaw dictating how Silesian tax money is spent.

Let`s divide all Poland into federal states. Even Warsawians would welcome it with joy as they constantly complain of having to pay too much of their taxes for the poor regions of Poland. Krakow pays too. it is called Robin Hood taxation.

Only creating the United States of Poland will allow everybody to live off what they produce.
Harry 67 | 12,861    
24 Jun 2013  #55

Even Warsawians would welcome it with joy as they constantly complain of having to pay too much of their taxes for the poor regions of Poland. Krakow pays too. it is called Robin Hood taxation.

I'd love to see that. Every year we Varsovians send a ton of cash to ****** little towns in Polska B and they repay us by allowing their hooligan scum to come and riot on our streets on November 11.
delphiandomine 57 | 15,090    
24 Jun 2013  #56

I'm convinced that much of the trouble is deliberately started by hooligans who just want to smash up Warsaw. Does anyone genuinely believe that Lech Poznan or Cracovia Krakow fans are going to Warsaw to protest peacefully?
smurf 39 | 2,011    
24 Jun 2013  #57

that can be easily done at the moment If only local authorities do the right jo

You know nothing Jon Snow.
It's not being done right though, because of the central government doesn't allow feck all to be done. It's typical Polish bureaucracy. The Bureaucratic processes here need an overhaul. Poland continues to be left behind because trying to get anything done here takes an eon. Even someone like you must agree with that.

Wow man, I'm not even a Pole and I know more about how your country is run.
Grzegorz_ 52 | 6,248    
24 Jun 2013  #58

because of the central government doesn't allow feck all to be done.

Right, it doesn't allow you to fix a feckin sidewalk :))

The Bureaucratic processes here need an overhaul.

I know it very well, the thing is it has nothing to do with Polonophobia and germanic victimhood spread by stinking RAŚ, which btw is in coalition with PO -> guys who has done big feckin nothing to reduce burocracy for the last 6 years.

Wow man, I'm not even a Pole and I know more about how your country is run.

LOL !
Polonius3 987 | 11,666    
23 Oct 2016  #59

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Kaczynski volunteered to prosecute dissidents

Another constantly repeated lie. That oturageous statement has never been backed by the smallest shred of evidence. FYI, s peculation, conjecture, presumption, wishful thinking, insinuation and guilt by innuendo are not proof of anything other than being a mean-spirited SOB.
mafketis 16 | 3,874    
23 Oct 2016  #60

Another constantly repeated HB lie. That oturageous statement has never been backed by the smallest shred of evidence

It's reaching and an overstatement but the evidence points to the K family as not being anything remotely like persecuted outsiders in the PRL. They did well for themselves in that system (while cautiously planting seeds for a spot in the replacement).

JK of course is currently trying to rewrite history with himself in a leading role in the dissident movement he almost certainly did not play...



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