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Battle of Warsaw movie in production


David_18 68 | 982
1 Jul 2010 #1
Location shooting has started 40 km from Warsaw on a feature film about the 1920 Polish-Soviet War, where Poland's newly independent forces won a famous victory over Trotsky's Red Army.

The production, being filmed with 3D technology, is being directed by Poland's veteran filmmaker, 78 year-old Jerzy Hoffman, who stresses that the defeat of the Bolsheviks - the so-called 'Miracle of the Vistula' - was the first genuine Polish military victory since the middle of the 17th century. The first scenes, shot the Modlin stronghold (Twierdza Modlin) this week, depict the preparations for repelling the Soviet invaders.

I really hope they will make a good movie out of it, and not a ****** low budget movie.
Harry
1 Jul 2010 #2
the first genuine Polish military victory since the middle of the 17th century.

Haven't they missed the words "and only" from that sentence? (Unless we count the heroic Polish invasions of Czechoslovakia with the Nazis in 1938 or the Commies in 1968.)
frd 7 | 1,399
1 Jul 2010 #3
well we are not caunting ausies killing aborigines so...
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Jul 2010 #4
depict the preparations for repelling the Soviet invaders.

I imagine that would be sth like: "hey, can you put tha bullet-crate a little to the left yes? No, a little more to the left. Am I speaking Spanish? I said TO THE LEFT! No, your other right handside. Yes...Yes, that's where I want them. A little bit more, pls. Are those cannons coming yet? No? Why not? I ordered them 2 weeks ago! No, don't move that bullet crate! Damn, can't anybody get me a coffee? Black two sugar pls. Guys, guys GUYS! Why is that hole dug here? No soul can get past it now...Damn, ok, fill it up again and dig it there under that pear tree...Everything you have to tell them!"

Hm, sounds like an action movie.

:)

>^..^<

M-G (is going to the cinema when it's released)
Harry
1 Jul 2010 #5
Am I speaking Spanish?

He certainly won't have been speaking Ukrainian: those embarrassing backstabbed allies will be nowhere to be seen in this film (unless the directors need somebody to play the traitor).
z_darius 14 | 3,968
1 Jul 2010 #6
Haven't they missed the words "and only" from that sentence? (Unless we count the heroic Polish invasions of Czechoslovakia with the Nazis in 1938

Gotta love it when Brits shed their crocodile tears over the country the British kicked in the butt real hard, so they could continue financing Hitler and his genocide all the while profiting from it.

Are you talking about the same Czechoslovakia the British urinated on and gave away to the Nazis, first in the form of the Sudeten Land and then the rest of it, including the tiny area disputed between Poland and Czekoslovakia? Or are you referring to the same Czekoslovakia the British, the junior partners of the Americans, pushed into Stalin's rule?

What was the Czekoslovakian term for that again? Something like zrada Západu?
Mr Grunwald 25 | 1,717
1 Jul 2010 #7
Don't get into his game, he is a globalist nothing moves him, I guess he has no feelings.

btw AWESOME I WANNA SEE IT! :D
RonWest 3 | 120
1 Jul 2010 #8
Awesome! Thanks for the link. I look forward to seeing the movie once it's released.
Harry
1 Jul 2010 #9
Are you talking about the same Czechoslovakia the British urinated on and gave away to the Nazis

Nope. The same Czechoslovakia which was invaded by Polish troops in 1938 than by Nazi troops.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
1 Jul 2010 #10
The Miracle of the Vistula (1920) may have been Poland's first victory since the partitions, but certianly not the last. The gretaest of them all was Poland's peaceful grand victory over bolshevism in 1989. It was a combined military (collapse of the Warsaw Pact), politicial (collapse of the Evil Emptrie and its entire bloc of captive nations), economic (collapse of Comecon) and cultrual (end of censorship) victory. But more than Legnica, Vienna (Sobieski) adn Warsaw, it changed the whole course of world events by ending the cold war and its attendant arms race. That calls to mind a take-off on the old lightbulb joke: How many Poles does it take to change the world? - Three: a former archbishop from Kraków, a Gdańsk shipyard electrician and a Polish-American sovietologist (Zb. Brzeziński). Some would add a fourth: Col. Ryszard Kukliński - NATO's first Polish officer.
Harry
1 Jul 2010 #11
collapse of the Warsaw Pact

I do love the way that Poles think they can call the side which they fought on losing the war a "victory".
Bzibzioh
1 Jul 2010 #12
It must p1ss you off endlessly to have to admit Polish contribution to collapse of communism :)
OP David_18 68 | 982
1 Jul 2010 #13
@Harry

You're stupid and ignorant. I guess it lies in the genes...

Well i didn't expect anything else from a nation like Australia that is build by Bandits :)
Harry
1 Jul 2010 #14
It must p1ss you off endlessly to have to admit Polish contribution to collapse of communism :)

Not at all. Although it should **** you off that you did nothing at all to end communism but instead ran to a better place and swore allegiance to another country: it should, but it doesn't; you have no shame.
frd 7 | 1,399
1 Jul 2010 #15
Haven't heard about this movie but I'm much more interested in watching the one Tomasz Bagiński is working on.. anyways it's nice to see something's brewing, I hate to admit but most of polish cinematography nowadays is about midiocre comedies..
Ziemowit 13 | 4,202
1 Jul 2010 #16
You're stupid and ignorant. I guess it lies in the genes...

I'm afraid I have to defend Harry here. There are a lot of anti-racist Polish people here on the PF; their racism may may lie in the genes as well (scientific evidence emerges slowly to confirm this theory). Harry has the right to express his anti-Polish views which are not racist in nature at all. Harry loves to indulge himself in manipulation, ignores those bits of information that don't fit his theories, so he is a real challenge to all those who try to contradict him. He pretends to command profound historical knowledge in certain fields which in reality is not profound. Unfortunately, his fields of interest are not the same as mine; if they were, I'd be happy to challenge him ...
frd 7 | 1,399
1 Jul 2010 #17
I have to say I'm also happy that this is not something novel based, finally some big war movie by Hoffman that's not connected to Sienkiewicz :)
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Jul 2010 #18
Polonius3

Come on, let's not exaggerate the Polish role in the demise of Communism. While she for certain did her part, Poland is not the only country that helped bringing Communism down. Hungary for example did her part by opening up the border with Austria. Czechoslovakia did her part, and so on. Heck, even East Germany did her part. While some point at Solidarnosc (or how the heck you write it) as the starting point, culminating in the first free elections of 4 June 1989, one could argue that it in fact were the chanced politics of Gorbatschov who created the atmosphere that a change was pssbl. I know that Gorbi didn't mean to end Communism as such, but his more liberal approached definitively created the context in which the "Revolution" could take place. It was the only circumstance that was substantially different from the ones in 1953, 1956, 1968 and 1980.

>^..^<

M-G (haec hactenus)
Magdalena 3 | 1,837
1 Jul 2010 #19
but his more liberal approached definitively created the context

I would stand this statement on its head and say that the context (from 1979 onwards) created - or rather forced - Gorbachev's "liberal" approach. Of course most Iron Curtain countries contributed something to the eventual fall of communism (Hungary in the fifties, Czechoslovakia in the sixties), but funnily enough when push came to shove in the eighties, Poland was the FIRST to take actual action, with the remaining Eastern Bloc regimes collapsing like a set of dominoes soon after. Domino theory in reverse?
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Jul 2010 #20
You turn things around. In 1983 Reagan proposed his Star Wars project. The SU, used to keep on par with the US knew they could never afford such an expensive program. It was this project that caused Gorbi to write his Glasnost and adopt Perestrojka as the SU was already on its knees economically. He knew the only way to survive was reform in order to get the economy going again. It's all about pure economic reasons. Nothing political and for certain nothing coming out of the Eastern European countries.

>^..^<

M-G (sorry)

You know that I'm right. At the time Solidarnosc was just another attempt to revolt against Communism. Or don't you understand that through political reform one can retrieve economic gain? Star Wars was the final blow, if it were to be put in effect, the SU wouldn't stand a change against the Americans as any counter strike would have been deflected successfully, taking away the basis of mutual destruction threat. SU couldn't afford a program like that, financially and with the basis of the Cold War gone, Gorbi offered this change of course. That's what started and finalised the demise of Communism in Europe.

>^00^<

M-G (haec hactenus)
Pibwl - | 50
1 Jul 2010 #21
The same Czechoslovakia which was invaded by Polish troops in 1938 than by Nazi troops.

I'm not justifying quite shameful Zaolzie action, but speaking of invasions: the Czech invasion on Zaolzie in 1919 was definitely more bloody, than the Polish one in 1938 (the Polish Army invaded and the Czechoslovak forces withdrew, on "agreement" between both governments). I know you'd like to kick Poland, but maybe you should read more history.
MareGaea 29 | 2,752
1 Jul 2010 #22
You know, that's why we call this conglomerate of wars immediately succeeding WW1 "Birthpain Wars" as they form part of the birthpains of the new nations that emerged. But in all it's all part of the 30-year war of the 20th Century as the period 1914-1945 has come to be known.

>^..^<

M-G (haec hactenus)
Bzibzioh
1 Jul 2010 #23
it should **** you off that you did nothing at all to end communism

Nothing to say beyond personal dig? Oh, it's really easy to yank your chain.

BTW: actually I did my small contribution to fight communism while you "heroically" come to Poland after communism collapsed already. How brave you are! <sarcasm off>

Haven't they missed the words "and only" from that sentence?

I can feel your pain. You'll have to double your effort to remind everyone how really undeserving of any praise Poland is.
sunnyflorida 2 | 13
3 Feb 2012 #24
Merged: Battle of Warsaw 1920-New Movie From Poland

Has anyone seen the new movie from Poland ... "The Battle of Warsaw 1920"? ... by Polish director Jerzy Hoffman. It has played in Chicago. It will premiere in Washington DC area soon.

Any reviews and feedback?

Has it been seen by large audiences in Poland? Is it very popular there? Is it considered a commercial success?


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