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Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed.


McCoy Activity: 27 / 1,286
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14 Sep 2008  #61

czechs did not conquered the malbork castle. the czech guy who was part of the castle crew betrayed the teutons and opened the gates for Poles

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16 Sep 2008  #62

To Germans, west of Europe gave loyalty, to Slavs - only oblivion

UK and France, 1939, declared war on Germany for attacking Poland (Slavs).
Post war politics was about ideology (communism/capitalism) not racial matters.

So what are you saying?
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16 Sep 2008  #63

Its just 1410!!!!! WOW thats going a bit over the top, lol.

Battle of Hastings interests me and that was 1066 :)

sorry for taking it a bit off topic, just wanted to point out to Torny that there are no time lines where history is concerned.
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16 Sep 2008  #64

UK and France, 1939, declared war on Germany for attacking Poland (Slavs).

Really perfect example...
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16 Sep 2008  #65

Ya the battle at grunwald is a fine example of Polish battles.
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16 Sep 2008  #67

So what? Thermopyles was 2500 years ago but everybody wants to be like Spartians.
miranda  
16 Sep 2008  #68

who is everybody? You mean they would give up the warm houses/TV sets and computers/frozen food to live in Sparta again LOL

stop daydreaming
southern Activity: 76 / 7,116
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16 Sep 2008  #69

No,I mean they would like to look like Leonidas and the 300.
miranda  
16 Sep 2008  #70

I wonder how much this movie depicts what really happened. THe same goes for Matejko painting, which was more symbolic than realistic. After all he painted it some hundreds years after the battle. I am sure it was a political painting and was probably used to rise the patriotic spirit of Poles.
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16 Sep 2008  #71

Both the movie and the painting are bull...t.

The Spartans had a 5 foot wall between them and the Persians and something like 1800 auxilaries to help, also its highly doubtfull there was more than 100 or 200 thousands Persians rather than a milion.

As for Matejko. Jagie≥lo was not fighting, he did kill a single teutonic knight who get near his position by sheer accident, the movie is typical Hollywood crap and the painting is purely symbolic.
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16 Sep 2008  #72

I wonder how much this movie depicts what really happened

I know there were no gramlings,zombies or rhinocerus in persian army.No Frankenstein either.However the movie was good since it kept the comics atmosphere.

There is no reliable historic movie.However Troya and Alexander the Great were a bit humiliating since Achilles had colour on hair and Alexander was presented as super gay.While in fact Alexander's body was full of old wounds by weapons as historians say.
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16 Sep 2008  #73

Troya and Alexander the Great were a bit humiliating

Yep. They were pathetic.

actualy, Britain and France reacted too late.

I was sarcastic.
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16 Sep 2008  #74

i apologize Pan Grzegorz
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22 Sep 2008  #75

anyway i'm sure more guys watch match of the day rather than sit around talking about some tic for tac fight back in the day :):)

I don't watch TV and I don't spend much time watching multimillion dollar pawns. To me it's a waste of time.

You really don't see that reviewing the same thing again and again and again and again and again achieves nothing, you can't change it so why bother???

So what exactly are you achieving by knowing the latest football score?
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22 Sep 2008  #76

I understand that!
I love to read about the Battle in the Teutoburger Forest...and that was 2000 years back! :)
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22 Sep 2008  #77

It amazes me when I witness history repeating itself in current events.

Example.
When Princess Diana died and the Royal Family kept a 'dignified silence'.
This was very similar to how the population of Ancient Rome reacted towards their Royal Families 'dignified silence' over the death of Germanicus...2000 years ago!

I love history. Especially ancient to, around, 1700.
Bratwurst Boy Activity: 5 / 7,945
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22 Sep 2008  #78

It's just that humans didn't change that much! :)
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22 Sep 2008  #79

yes, let`s go in some pub in Lusatia!

They should have a report of this battle everyday in newspaper first page.Sorbs must have taken part in this battle.
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24 Sep 2008  #80

Crow? Can I borrow that and show around??? That's too funny.....:)

do what you must

Jesus, Crow... whos talking about invading anyone?

Thread is about German/Teutonic invasion and respond on that invasion. Germany invaded and invading. Every invasion is followed with retaliation

after all, it was if. Let it be said just in case. I mean, if NATO failed to secure borders of Greater Germany
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20 Jan 2009  #81

Polands allies durring this battle

Lithuanians nad Tatars mentioned is 2:00 minute of this movie.

500 Russians

(nice movie made by Russians from mediveal festival in Poland)



and some Czechs.

Grunwald 2008 14/18: Inscenizacja bitwy (it is good party) - every summer in Poland


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26 Jan 2009  #82

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26 Jan 2009  #83

if Poland ever invade Germany, in order to liberate Lusatia, it would be wise to use Balkan Serbian fighters for night operations behind enemy lines, organized in Chetnik troika groups. Knife onlyThat would generate great fear in Germans, great moral in Poles and great pleasure in Serbiansat night, there would be only screams all arround. In the morning, Serbs would come back to rest, to be ready to continue next night

hehehe, fantasy but really pleasurable to think about


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16 Nov 2009  #84

What were the ramifications of this huge battle? How did it change things for the Polish?
Bzibzioh  
16 Nov 2009  #85

We, as schoolkids in Poland, had to memorize yet another date!
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16 Nov 2009  #86

Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed.

all who come to consume Slavija perishes on the battlefield of history
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16 Nov 2009  #87

What were the ramifications of this huge battle? How did it change things for the Polish?

It triggered Polish rise to power where Poland became arguably the most powerfull state in Europe for another 200+ years, it destroyed any hope of German and Russian expansion for another quarter of a millenium, before the battle Poland was just a relatively strong kingdom with an uncertain future, when was over it became overnight a European power that would get larger and greater on every field for over a century to come.
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20 Dec 2009  #88

ConstantineK
Re The Matejko painting of Grunwald. It is a majestic panorama and well worth visiting to see it at the Art Gallery and in the adjacent Military Museum in Warsaw there are example of weapons and armour from the 'Grunwald period'.
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20 Dec 2009  #89

Battle of Grunwald 1410 The biggest medieval battle. Germans smashed.

This thread title is so-not-PC.

As we are all together in EU now, it should read...

Battle of Grunwald 1410

Polish-German military meeting - Tannenberg/Grunwald 1410

The biggest medieval battle.

The biggest (but luckily only temporary) misunderstanding in mutual relations.

Germans smashed.

Compromise finally reached, with a slightly better outcome for the Polish side.
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21 Dec 2009  #90

This fact was well expressed during 15 cent in wellknown phrase "Moscow is a third Rome, two Romes fell (Rome itself and Constantinopol) but third stands and will stand forever"

This is correct, although various arguments could made about the details in the comparison...Rome, Byzantium and Moscow were quite different civilizations, and all went through various stages of development.




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