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Is Tuga (Female) / Tugi (Male) a Polish surname?


JTugi
14 Jun 2017 #1
Is Tugi/Tuga a Polish surname? My ancestors came from Wołyń. Thanks
gumishu 11 | 5,680
14 Jun 2017 #2
Tuga/Tugi is originally an Ukrainian surname - in Polish it would be Tęga/Tęgi - however there are many Poles who bear Ukrainian surnames - some kind of Polonization must have taken place among the Ukrainian folk in some areas (though Wołyń was not exactly the epicenter of the phenomenon)
OP JTugi
14 Jun 2017 #3
What does it mean in Ukrainian/what is its origin?
DominicB - | 2,709
14 Jun 2017 #4
@JTugi

Yes, It is a polonified form of an originally Ukrainian surname, which makes sense given the fact that your ancestors came from Wołyń.

It is derived from an old Ukrainian word for "worry". It has nothing to do with "tęgi", though.
gumishu 11 | 5,680
14 Jun 2017 #5
What does it mean in Ukrainian/what is its origin?

big (and and fat) - of people - in Polish it has figurative or extended meanings don't know about Ukrainian

It is a polonified form of an originally Ukrainian surname

it's not even Polonified on the outer the sounding of the surname would be perfectly the same in Ukrainian

the form Tugi for a male and Tuga for a female mean that the originally the surname was an adjective - it hardly fits your version of it being somehow connected with worry
DominicB - | 2,709
14 Jun 2017 #6
@gumishu

It does not mean "big" or "fat" or anything like that, and it is clearly polonified. The Ukrainian original would be transliterated "Tuchyj" in Polish.

If you disagree, take it up with Stankiewicz:

stankiewicze.com/index.php?kat=44&sub=777
DominicB - | 2,709
14 Jun 2017 #7
In all fairness, though, at first glance, I also thought it was related to "tęgi", and was surprised to find that it wasn't.
gumishu 11 | 5,680
14 Jun 2017 #8
and it is clearly polonified

ok it is Polonified, I forgot that Ukrainian didn't have g originally
and I still think it is the same word as Tęgi
according to wikidictionary tuga is a SerboCroatian word and not Ukrainian (it looks like it is ProtoSlavic though so it could have been in Ukrainian vocabulary in the past)
DominicB - | 2,709
14 Jun 2017 #9
@gumishu

Serbo-Croatian has been separate from Polish and Ukrainian for 1400 years now, so there is certainly no connection there except possibly a cognate derived from common slavic. Stankiewicz says that the source is Old East Slavic.
gumishu 11 | 5,680
14 Jun 2017 #10
Stankiewicz says that the source is Old East Slavic.

maybe he is right - I'm not an expert on Russian - but he gives conflicting etymologies on some surnames so I doubt he's an authority on the matter

however neither I am an expert on Ukrainian so I could be wrong about the Tugi/a being cognate with Tęgi/a
OP JTugi
14 Jun 2017 #11
Thanks everyone, which part of Ukraine is the name most common?
gumishu 11 | 5,680
14 Jun 2017 #12
I don't use cyrillic keyboard so it is problematic for me to use Ukrainian sources

OK, tuga is a Ukranian word (just found it in the Ukrainian online dictionary) but it is a noun and adjectives of tuga are tuzhniy and tuzhliviy and not tuhi, tuha therefore I still believe Tugi to be the same word as Tęgi - you have to remember that Wołyń was always on the border of Ukrainian and Polish speaking regions and that some local borrowings could have taken place


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