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Are Scandanavians a mix between Polish & Iberian stock?


legend 3 | 660
1 Jul 2011 #61
Just take your OCD meds and look at the latest studies, instead of sitting up at all hours (what time is it on your continent?) quoting from discredited studies posted on the internet by cranks. And quit saying that Poland existed 11000 yearsa ago.

Instead of using ad hominem attacks against him why dont you post the 'modern' more 'proven' studies.
Thats all hes asking. Or maybe youll just say something about OCD again. God some people are morons.

I like you and that's why I called you that, not because I'm trying to patronize you :-)

PF relationship :D
guesswho 4 | 1,278
1 Jul 2011 #62
The name comes from Polanie the largest of the Slavic tribes that united and formed Poland. In the first centuries or so the people of the united state were know and Polanie (didn't matter if they were Polanie, Wislanie, Mazowszanie those were terms of self identity locally) later the term was modified to Polacy.

as you said, LATER, back then there was no Poles and Poland yet. This is all I'm saying PB.
PennBoy 76 | 2,432
1 Jul 2011 #63
as you said, LATER, back then there was no Poles and Poland yet.

But the discussion is about genetics DNA and Poles ancestors, not since when are we formally know as Poles. We could have called ourselves Martians we're talking about blood people who thousands of years ago looked like us.
Bratwurst Boy 11 | 11,837
1 Jul 2011 #64
What do you think about the blue eye genetic mutation.

Where does it put your polish genes when slavs, germanics and celts have blue eyed people, stemming from one ancestor.
They are all close and quite recent family....so what now with the slavic and germanic differences and hostilities? ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_color#Genetics

...
In 2008, new research suggested that people with blue eyes have a single common ancestor.
Scientists tracked down a genetic mutation that leads to blue eyes. "Originally, we all had brown eyes," said Hans Eiberg from the Department of Cellular and Molecular Medicine at the University of Copenhagen.[37] Eiberg and colleagues showed in a study published in Human Genetics that a mutation in the 86th intron of the HERC2 gene, which is hypothesized to interact with the OCA2 gene promoter, reduced expression of OCA2 with subsequent reduction in melanin production.[38]

The authors concluded that the mutation may have arisen in a single individual probably living in the northwestern part of the Black Sea region (around modern Romania) 6,000-10,000 years ago during the Neolithic revolution.[37][38][39]

PennBoy 76 | 2,432
1 Jul 2011 #65
Where does it put your polish genes when slavs, germanics and celts have blue eyed people, stemming from one ancestor.

I know about the mutation (I too have blue eyes) and no ones disputing that we're all related but that was 10,000 years ago and in more recent history Slavs, Germanics, and Celts came about. In a more modern sense people kept evolving as we still do that is how usually one can tell someone else's ethnicity just by looking at them. Ey, we can go back millions of years and we all came from a monkey ;)
bobthechef - | 1
18 Aug 2011 #66
PolskiMocz, I've never heard your theory about the Polish origin of Scandinavians, but the fact that Europeans are highly related seems to evade you. Or that Europeans in the North tend to look similar to many people. Why don't you retire the stereotypes that hold no water. You can rationalize anything you want.

Also, the only reason you think Danny Saucedo "looks Swedish" is because he's styled his hair and dolled himself up the way it's fashionable in Sweden these days, at least among pop stars, and evinces facial expressions that are more American Idol Adam Lambert smiley than the militaristic glances you get from Poles. I have Polish friends who look very similar (except for the somewhat Bieberish hair in some pictures). Get rid of his somewhat flamboyant glamrock makeup and orange spray-on guido tan, give him a pensive gaze and slap a Lech Walesa mustache on him and you have a regular Zenek (get rid of the stache and shave his head and add a pair of addidas pants, and you've got a dresiarz). I mean, come on. Next you'll tell me that your evidence for him looking Swedish is because you've heard that Swedes have noses (although I can attest they're more common in Poland, as the population is larger, and proportionally more common, because apparently, there are more nose amputations in Sweden and actually a widespread congenital disorder causes more noseless births!). Or maybe that because he's wearing Bjorn Borg, you've got a Swede on your hands.
Lyzko
18 Aug 2011 #67
Swedes are said to have progenitors from present-day Russian-speaking territory, i.e. Rurik, the "first" Russian Slavic speaker. Furthermore, many Swedes, particularly women, have pale complexions, high cheekbones, above-average height, broad, smooth faces, light-blue eyes and a physique almost identical to many Russians.
Des Essientes 7 | 1,290
18 Aug 2011 #68
Swedes are said to have progenitors from present-day Russian-speaking territory, i.e. Rurik, the "first" Russian Slavic speaker.

The Chronicle of Rurik claims that the quarreling Slavs "invited" the Russ to come rule over them. The Russ being Varangians from Sweden. It is the Russians who have progenitors from Sweden not the other way around.
Lyzko
18 Aug 2011 #69
Perhaps your right, Des Essinentes. Guess it depends on whose history one learns-:)
f stop 25 | 2,507
18 Aug 2011 #70
PolskiMocz

that is funny!


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