A possibility that I am debating is to move to Poland after I earn a Masters in Business (MBA) here in America. ( I am in undergraduate right now)
What type of career can you find in Poland after completing Business School in the US?
start your own business?
True. I'm sure what Poland needs is investment and not just another middle manager.
Sorry, I should have been clearer.
I meant to say something along the lines of would it be good to start a new business, and if so, what kind? ( i.e a restaurant/ bar)
or is it better to work in ( for example) an American company based in Poland.
I meant to say something along the lines of would it be good to start a new business, and if so, what kind? ( i.e a restaurant/ bar)
or is it better to work in ( for example) an American company based in Poland.
Sorry, I should have been clearer.
I meant to say something along the lines of would it be good to start a new business, and if so, what kind? ( i.e a restaurant/ bar)
I meant to say something along the lines of would it be good to start a new business, and if so, what kind? ( i.e a restaurant/ bar)
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Can you find a job with an American company? If you can't I'd start a business in what you know and what the market will support.
Merged: A Good Career in Poland?
Hello.
I am 18 years old and live in New York. I will be going to college soon and I still have not decided what I want to study.
I definitely want to keep the option of returning to Poland open after I graduate from school.
So, what is a good paying career in Poland that is sure to grow in the future? I want to keep my options open so it would be a career that is good in both the US and Poland. I am interested in Dentistry and engineering, but I also want to know about other careers.
A possible plan for me is to finish school in the US and work for a few years in the U.S to earn extra money and pay off any debts. Then, I would move to Poland before I turn 30.
btw: I can speak Polish fluently and I have Polish citizenship.
Hello.
I am 18 years old and live in New York. I will be going to college soon and I still have not decided what I want to study.
I definitely want to keep the option of returning to Poland open after I graduate from school.
So, what is a good paying career in Poland that is sure to grow in the future? I want to keep my options open so it would be a career that is good in both the US and Poland. I am interested in Dentistry and engineering, but I also want to know about other careers.
A possible plan for me is to finish school in the US and work for a few years in the U.S to earn extra money and pay off any debts. Then, I would move to Poland before I turn 30.
btw: I can speak Polish fluently and I have Polish citizenship.
If engineering then only IT - programming. Medical sciences are also in need because of limited number of student's of this specialties, but you should investigate more. Everything else is roulette weather you will get good payed job in Poland. In Poland are IT jobs, because of demand for programmers from the west and easiness to outsource. In other specialties is quite hard to get any job where diploma is relevant, not to mention good payed one. The reason is small research and development sector comparing to the west and big number of graduates who are ready to work for any pay. In previous decade civil engineers had no problem finding job, because of construction boom in Poland, but currently there is bust and they're being fired while much more graduates is coming to market than before.
Thanks.
So basically a technology related career is the most promising. That would include something like a software developer or a computer programmer?
So basically a technology related career is the most promising. That would include something like a software developer or a computer programmer?
Yes, those are the most promising for finding a job. Whether the job pays well depends very much on your qualifications and experience. In reality, you won't start making decent money until you advance to project manager, so your education should prepare you for management and administration.
Logistics is also another area of engineering that is promising, though, as above, the decent wages are reserved for project and regional managers and above.
I have to agree with Monitor above about other branches of engineering. Civil engineers are having a difficult time right now because of the bust in the construction business, and that is not going to improve soon. Research-oriented branches such as materials engineering are not useful for finding a job in Poland because research and development are hopelessly underfunded, and there are more than enough engineers to supply the needs of the market. Other branches of engineering are also very competitive.
As far as dentistry and other medical fields, forget about it if you want to work in Poland. The pay is very poor unless you own your own private practice, which takes a great deal of investment capital. You would be much better off working in the States or Western Europe, particularly Scandinavia.
Probably the most realistic way of getting decent wages in Poland is to find a job with an American company and get transferred to Poland with American wages. the fact that you speak Polish fluently and have citizenship offer you a distinct advantage.
Whatever you do, make sure that you have a very firm basis in sciences and math, including critical thinking. That puts you on a completely different plane of existence than mere mortals, both in school and on the job market.
Logistics is also another area of engineering that is promising, though, as above, the decent wages are reserved for project and regional managers and above.
I have to agree with Monitor above about other branches of engineering. Civil engineers are having a difficult time right now because of the bust in the construction business, and that is not going to improve soon. Research-oriented branches such as materials engineering are not useful for finding a job in Poland because research and development are hopelessly underfunded, and there are more than enough engineers to supply the needs of the market. Other branches of engineering are also very competitive.
As far as dentistry and other medical fields, forget about it if you want to work in Poland. The pay is very poor unless you own your own private practice, which takes a great deal of investment capital. You would be much better off working in the States or Western Europe, particularly Scandinavia.
Probably the most realistic way of getting decent wages in Poland is to find a job with an American company and get transferred to Poland with American wages. the fact that you speak Polish fluently and have citizenship offer you a distinct advantage.
Whatever you do, make sure that you have a very firm basis in sciences and math, including critical thinking. That puts you on a completely different plane of existence than mere mortals, both in school and on the job market.
so your education should prepare you for management and administration.
But if you consider studying management or administration then only from top universities otherwise diploma will be worthless, as here are plenty of graduated managers who have nothing to manage.
As far as dentistry and other medical fields, forget about it if you want to work in Poland.
They don't earn so little and have opportunity to go from time to time and earn 10 times more in the west. So you may save some money by working in Scandinavia and treat work in Poland for 10 x less as a hobby. But I am not sure if your American diploma would be recognized here. Probably not.
poland_
7 Aug 2013 / #11
Artur13
Dentistry,Tax advisory.
Dentistry,Tax advisory.
Dentistry,Tax advisory.
for sure he can study taxes in USA and later work in Poland. Have you read his question?
But if you consider studying management or administration then only from top universities otherwise diploma will be worthless, as here are plenty of graduated managers who have nothing to manage.
I meant management and administration courses as part of the engineering degree. But if he is planning on getting an MBA or such, then you're right. They are worthless if they do not come from top schools.
They don't earn so little and have opportunity to go from time to time and earn 10 times more in the west. So you may save some money by working in Scandinavia and treat work in Poland for 10 x less as a hobby. But I am not sure if your American diploma would be recognized here. Probably not.
Yes, they do earn very little compared to the States or Western Europe. I have friends in the medical field that live in Wrocław and Poznań, but work in Germany. The diploma will be recognized, but you will have to sit for Polish exams and have to go through "nostrifikacja", which is aggravating and time consuming. Another thing to consider is that Polish medical facilities are primitive compared to their high-tech space age Western counterparts. I remember being toured around a hospital laboratory here in Wrocław and being shocked that the equiptment I saw them using would be considered museum material in the States. Also visiting my the house of my friend, who is a doctor with a lucrative in-home private practice, and seeing his table covered with chickens, eggs and various produce- payments by patients who could not afford to pay in cash. Definitely recommend against anything related to medicine if you want to live and work in Poland.
All in all, whatever he studies, the OP is going to have to take a major pay cut if they want to work in Poland, and the lower cost of living is going to come nowhere close to offsetting that.
poland_
8 Aug 2013 / #14
Yes did you.
He is interested in Dentistry and would like top know about other careers. He could join a graduate training scheme after his studies , maybe he could also consider a Erasmus course with one year in Poland. erasmus.org.pl/information-foreign-students
He is interested in Dentistry and would like top know about other careers. He could join a graduate training scheme after his studies , maybe he could also consider a Erasmus course with one year in Poland. erasmus.org.pl/information-foreign-students
Yes, they do earn very little compared to the States or Western Europe.
A salary in Poland should be compared to other salaries in Poland. If you compare salary of Polish doctor to American one, then why not compare average Polish salary to average American one. You will have the same conclusion that there is no point to work in Poland for much less.
Another thing to consider is that Polish medical facilities are primitive compared to their high-tech space age Western counterparts.
I think it doesn't apply to dentistry.
Also visiting my the house of my friend, who is a doctor with a lucrative in-home private practice, and seeing his table covered with chickens, eggs and various produce- payments by patients who could not afford to pay in cash.
Is that for real or you're just good storyteller?
Definitely recommend against anything related to medicine if you want to live and work in Poland.
Specialist doctors have above average salaries in Poland. But of course he can become manager :D
the OP is going to have to take a major pay cut if they want to work in Poland
If he starts career in Poland then there will not be pay cut.
Yes did you.
So why do you suggest him to study taxes in USA. That is not an international profession at all. With American diploma in dentistry is also not so simple: "The diploma will be recognized, but you will have to sit for Polish exams and have to go through "nostrifikacja", which is aggravating and time consuming. "
poland_
8 Aug 2013 / #16
A salary in Poland should be compared to other salaries in Poland. If you compare salary of Polish doctor to American one, then why not compare average Polish salary to average American one. You will have the same conclusion that there is no point to work in Poland for much less.
Any young International graduate seeking work in Poland is not doing it for the money, more the experience.
So why do you suggest him to study taxes in USA
As I understand he is studying for his MBA, I did not suggest he study taxes in the USA. Here is my quote
He could join a graduate training scheme after his studies , maybe he could also consider a Erasmus course with one year in Poland.
That is not an international profession at al
Maybe you should advise the tax consultants/advisors at PWC/Deloitte/KPMG & E &Y, they are not professionals
With American diploma in dentistry is also not so simple: "The diploma will be recognized, but you will have to sit for Polish exams and have to go through "nostrifikacja", which is aggravating and time consuming. "
Would it not be easier to do a conversion course or study Orthodontics in Poland as many foreigners do, its much cheaper than the states.
My advice Artur13, would be to follow your carer path in the states excel in your chosen profession, make contacts in Poland and look to open your own practice in PL, in the future.
for sure he can study taxes in USA and later work in Poland. Have you read his question?
If he worked with PWC/Deloitte/KPMG & E &Y.
Stop trying to own this thread, Monitor & give the young man some solid wisdom.
As I understand he is studying for his MBA, I did not suggest he study taxes in the USA. Here is my quote
why? he's 18 years old and asks what to study. I was relating to this quote:
Artur13
Dentistry,Tax advisory.
Dentistry,Tax advisory.
Maybe you should advise the tax consultants/advisors at PWC/Deloitte/KPMG & E &Y, they are not professionals
what are you trying to say?
My advice Artur13, would be to follow your carer path in the states excel in your chosen profession,
but he's asking what to choose
If he worked with PWC/Deloitte/KPMG & E &Y.
Stop trying to own this thread, Monitor & give the young man some solid wisdom.
Stop trying to own this thread, Monitor & give the young man some solid wisdom.
Now I got it. Admin has merged 2 threads which authors chose the same nicknames.
But the 1st one is " I earn a Masters in Business (MBA) here in America. ( I am in undergraduate right now)"
and 2nd "I am 18 years old and live in New York. I will be going to college soon"
but they're definitely not the same person. I simply ignored the 1s author topic, as he wrote it nearly an year ago. And I am relating to the topic of the 2nd author. But you do opposite.
Bad job admins, bad job.
poland_
8 Aug 2013 / #18
but they're definitely not the same person. I simply ignored the 1s author topic, as he wrote it nearly an year ago. And I am relating to the topic of the 2nd author. But you do opposite.
Its the same person check the profile. I guess he still hasn't found what he is looking for
what are you trying to say?
You don't study at university to be a Tax advisor/consultant. The internationals will take all types of graduates from Arts to zoology on their programs.
but he's asking what to choose
The only person to make a chosen is him, all we can do is give him ideas.