for your information median HOUSEHOLD income in the US is like $50 k or so.
Completely and utterly irrelevant for a foreign professional who has been offered 11,500 PLN in Poland, which means a mid-career IT engineer with management experience. US median for the equivalent in the States would easily be well more than twice that, and possibly even three or four times as much, depending on skills set.
And how is US median salary for this position relevant?His job offer is from Poland not the US.Maybe he is from Philipines or Bangladesh where salary for equivalent position is $10-15k (random numbers .i have no clue what their salaries there are but i am assuming it's less than 37k)?Following your logic all IT engineers from poorer countries should stop working, sit on their butts and await offers from the US which may or may not come.
Dominic, perhaps consider that this offer is an excellent way to get into those Western jobs?
I know you taught English in Poland and thus know nothing about these kind of jobs, but your advice is completely unrealistic. No-one in the US is going to hire someone like him without some Western experience.
I just got an offer in Katowice for 11,500ZL gross salary, is it consider as decent salary for single professional ? Can you please advice me some rental portals for a flat in Katowice ?
Yes, that's a very good salary for Katowice. Try gumtree.pl for flats.
At current rates, that's a rather disappointing $37,000 US a year. Not at all decent on a global scale.
Who cares what it is in dollars - we use Euros, Pounds, Złotych, etc, nor is the average American salary even the slightest bit relevant to someone who is offered a job on a different continent. Furthermore, it's a bit of a stretch of the imagination to talk about salaries "on a global scale" when Lenion21 hasn't posted his nationality. Nor his age - for someone young, it's an excellent salary. I agree very much with @trucker on this one.
Stop being so negative and giving misleading advice. It's as if you wanted to deter people from coming to work or study in Poland, something which you have done yourself and evidently regretted your missed opportunity to do other things "on a global scale".
DominicB, is right about everything he says. Working and/or studying in Poland would be a bad decision. Poland is inferior to Western countries in regards to anything economic. There is a reason why millions of Poles go to the West, and that there are so few foreigners in Poland. The benefits of working here is little. Its okay to there here for a year or two for fun and diversion, but beyond that its a waste of time, money, energy, and effort. My advice to the OP is to look for work in the West. I always wonder why well-educated foreigners go to Poland. Its a backward country. Polish people will always ask the question: "Why Poland?" :p
You are right, teargas. There is investment flooding in from the EU and polish coming back from the West. But how can a country rely on those types of investments in the long run? The EU funding will stop in 2020, and at some point the amount of money sent home to Mom and Dad will have less impact on the economy as prices continue to go up. Poland desperately needs another source of growth. Is there oil anywhere? :p
EU funding certainly will not stop in 2020. While 100 billion Euro is unlikely to be offered again, Poland's size and position means that there will still be a significant amount of funding in the 2020-2026 cycle.
Meanwhile, in the cities, a startup culture is starting to really develop. I'm actually giving a short talk at one such event later today.
I just got a job offer in Poland and the company now wants me to send them salary expectations. Problem is, I have no idea about the salary ranges in Poland, nor do I about the tax system.
I am German, and the job I applied for is editing and proofreading of German-language texts for an international language-services company. I only just graduated university, so have only very limited professional experience. I know that salaries in Poland are much lower than in Germany, but on the other hand, I figure that if they intend to attract and retain Germans, they aren't going to be out to pay me like 500€ a month? I also have no real experience negotiating salaries.
I've done some research now into salaries and taxes and have come to the conclusion that maybe 6500 zloty before taxes would be a good number to state? That should come out at around 4500 zloty after taxes - and maybe better to make it a bit higher, I read once that companies will always try to negotiate a lower salary.
Although proofreading is not easy (sometimes impossible to understand what they mean ;)), it is badly paid in Poland.
I do proofread once in a while (= so not my job) for a Polish company. The texts are easy and repetitive (only problem is that they are always in a hurry). Per page, they pay me 12zl (net - I pay tax) and very often on each page, there are only a few lines. When I started 2 years ago, I did not know how much to ask, they told me the usual rate in Warsaw is 6-10 per page (1,800 characters) but they have offered me 12 ZL/netto per page (and like said, very often there are no more than a few lines on some pages ;)).
This is occasional and when I have work, it's usually max. 35-40 pages at a time, so no way to live on that, it's just a few ZL dodatkowy.
Based upon my "experience", I believe no more than 3,000 ZL, which is very low considering how difficult it can be. Coming from Germany to Poland to make such kind of money does not make much sense to me.
the company now wants me to send them salary expectations.
You tell them it's negotiable. If they push you, tell them that it all depends on what elements there are to the package. They know what they want to pay.
they told me the usual rate in Warsaw is 6-10 per page (1,800 characters)
Based upon my "experience", I believe no more than 3,000 ZL, which is very low considering how difficult it can be. Coming from Germany to Poland to make such kind of money does not make much sense to me.
It does depend on what part of Germany he's from. If he's from some economic backwater with no good qualifications, then it might actually be a good move. Certainly living on 3000zl in Poland would be far superior to sitting unemployed in Eisenhuttenstadt!
Certainly living on 3000zl in Poland would be far superior to sitting unemployed in Eisenhuttenstadt!
No, it wouldn't. As an unemployed person in Eisenhuttenstadt, he would have abundant opportunities for further education, something that he will not have in Poland.
Sorry, but no way, no how would it ever be a smart move for this person to move to Poland for a lousy dead-end proof-reading job for a lousy 3000 PLN a month. That would be career suicide.
I am Alan. I am a IT Project Manager certified in Prince2 Agile Practitioner. I have got a job offer from Poland and now my Employer wants me to quote the salary. Can some one suggest me what is the pay i can quote to my exployer before tax? Also what is the tax rate in Poland?
I would say 8-10 k zloty before tax might be realistic in Warsaw. In other cities might be less. Effective tax rate (including social and all the stuff) would be roughly 30%
I'm Brazilian, currently working for a Finnish company in my home country and got a job offer to work in Poland for the same company as a Planning Manager in a R&D center in Kraków. I am very inclined to accept it since this job would represent a great advance in my career compared to what I'm working with right now. Moreover, the Brazilian economy is in a huge recession at the moment.
They asked for salary expectations and, based on a brief research, I asked 6,500 PLN after taxes. The rationale of my request is that I will be earning approximately this ammount next year in local currency and the BRL/PLN exchange rate is pretty much 1 to 1. Also, according to expatisan and numbeo, Kraków is 40% cheaper than Sao Paulo (my city in Brazil), so I'd have a "gain" in terms of purchase power that's perfectly justifiable as I will take a higher position with more responsibilities, etc. My question: did I ask too much?
Some background about myself: currently hired as a Financial Planning Analyst with 3 years experience.
RicardoP, to evaluate if your expectations are too high more information is needed about position. What exactly the planning manager does? Does it require any qualification or degree? What industry is the company in? Knowing all that it would be easier to give an answer to your question.
AngryPole, the role involves optimizing the site's R&D expenses, OPEX and CAPEX, as well as driving the implementation and evaluation of cost efficiency measures at our Kraków site. For qualifications, a bachelor's degree in Engineering or Business (my case) was required, as well as fluent English and other standard requirements. The company is in the telecommunications sector, providing mobile networks equipment and infra-structure for mobile operators. Not sure what other info is relevant here...
I reside in Pune, India with my family and earning around 160k/year in an IT job. Excluding liabilities/monthly expenses I am able to save at least 40k/month. I have got an offer of around 120k/year with an employer in Wroclaw. Would it be a good idea to take up the opportunity in Poland.
I would really appreciate if experienced expats can guide me to take a wise decision.
I have got an offer of around 120k/year with an employer in Wroclaw.
Interesting. Polish IT professionals are leaving Poland in drovers. Aslo if you are earning160k/ a year why would u even consider an offer of 120k/ a year? Are u getting paid in bananas and in Poland they offer you apples? A change of diet I can understand that.
I am getting paid in INR, however looking at the conversion rate (INR/PLN = 1:17) + assuming low cost of living (compared to other EU region) with better quality of life than in India I just gave it a thought before concluding. Though I am not aware the taxation for a salaried guy in Wroclaw.
If you are an IT specialist and you are quoting you salary as 160/k a year and at the same time comparing it to 120/k a year in Poland without ever mentioning in your original post the rate of exchange on the level of 1 : 17 (one to seventeen !!!), then there must be something wrong with your maths and thus with your professional skills in IT.
I have been offered a job in Warsaw with 20000 PLN per month..Would like to know how much tax will I have to pay and what will be my take-home salary after all deductions?.
