Poland seems to be very like America in this respect to me. You want a high salary? Go out there and get it.
I agree. I can use my husband as an example or any of his friends. For the first three years we lived in Warsaw we didn't take any holidays- just xmas, easter. Fast forward 8 years later and my husband goes into work when he wants and sets his own hours. but it didn't come easily.
No, despite the ridicule, she was more or less correct.
Minimum wage is 1.405. Hours per week is 38, there are 4,5 weeks in a month. I think the typical number of hours is 162.
That makes PLN 8,67 gross. Take off deductions and its PLN 6,72 per hour. A supermarket cashier in a soft labour market like Szczecin would not earn more than about 10% above the minumum. I dont think all of those people are lazy, some of them just have lower academic abilities and to a bunch of unpaid overtime probably wouldnt get them much more in life than a pat on the back and a food hamper at christmas.
The minimum wage has just gone up by about 6% though.
Comparing that to an accounting clerk in Poznan does not make sense - for a start 6000 cost to company is 5000 gross and presumably that is for someone with a bit of English ability. That is about right in a town where you are competing with 4 or 5 big outsource centres, each of which might employ 100 such clerks.
Minimum wage is 1.405. Hours per week is 38, there are 4,5 weeks in a month. I think the typical number of hours is 162.
No. There are 52 weeks in the year, five working days per week, so 260 working days per year. From that subtract 26 days' holiday (234). Then there are 12 days which are national holidays, let's say nine of which are on working days (225). And then the woman probably has 1.5 children and thus 2 'children days' per child per year (222 days). That makes 18.5 working days per month. Multiply that by seven hours and 45 minutes and one gets 143 hours per month.
Minimum wage is 1.405.
Isn't minimum wage now 1,500zl?
A supermarket cashier in a soft labour market like Szczecin would not earn more than about 10% above the minumum.
So she's on, by your guess, 1,650zl per month and working, as shown above, 143 hours per month. That gives an hourly rate of 11.54zl, which is pretty much double what the article claims.
...which would be true if she had a proper contract, paid holidays and worked only 7h 45min daily. Biedronka's cashiers would be probably delighted to work on similar basis.
somebody posted not too long ago about an advert for cashiers at Biedronka and the pay was something like 1800 to 2200---I can't remember exactly, maybe somebody else does.
I found a link for 2007 and the pay was 1400 pln per month. no doubt it is more now.
As for the recent ad for1,800-2,200 (which, again, is not even 1,600 taken home)... I wouldn't be too surprised. After the working conditions in Biedronka became common knowledge no one on their right mind would agree to work 12-hour shifts and unpaid overtimes for 975zł any longer.
After the working conditions in Biedronka became common knowledge no one on their right mind would agree to work 12-hour shifts and unpaid overtimes for 975zł any longer.
That was years ago; things have improved. What upset me was their decision to lock their rubbish bins/dumpsters, which they regularly fill with good food that is just outside its sell-by date. Staff used to put this stuff on top of the bins so the poor could collect it.
There are fairly reliable statistics on the grey economy in poland - world bank estimates 29 percent of GDP, a recent AT Kearney study estimates 26 percent.
However grey economy is more in cities than in rural areas - concentrated in building trades, hospitality trade.
There are fairly reliable statistics on the grey economy in poland - world bank estimates 29 percent of GDP, a recent AT Kearney study estimates 26 percent.
Sounds about right.
However grey economy is more in cities than in rural areas - concentrated in building trades, hospitality trade.
Plenty of it in rural areas too - I remember the sheer bafflement on the face of one rural "agroturstyka" owner when I asked him for a faktura. Not to mention the endless minibus services in areas such as Bieszczady where no tickets are given.
And of course, they would never be able to gain reliable information on stuff such as rural office workers taking bribes.
Well!! what's social welfare a month 200 euro... These people obviously need to work in the black economy to afford food. As for full time workers with families..what time have they to avail of the black economy?? Unlike Ireland where the majority of the unemployed(on a 1000 euro a month) do mixers(cash in hand) and bring their wages above the level of actual full time workers.
I know about Poles working for more than is on their contract,but, still doesn't mean they earn more than the average. Minimum wage plus 200 zloty is still sh1t money.
SO my info is not to be dismissed average salary:
Central Statistical Office of Poland (GUS) provided in 2009 that 65,35% of Polish wages are below Polish avarage wage and this is a fact.
The most common wage was 2.091,35 (about 700USD)
Only 10% earned more than 5.376,34 PLN (1792 USD)
only 34,65% employees had avarage wages (3.232,07)(1077USD)
These people obviously need to work in the black economy to afford food.
Must be the same reason why British MP's fiddle their expenses. They need to buy food. I suppose greed does not enter into it.
Same reason that a lot of Italians drive luxury cars and have yachts while declaring a yearly salary under 20,000 euros, they need to buy food and pay their rents.
No idea what you're talking about man. I just said Well!! what's social welfare a month 200 euro... These people(unemployed Poles) obviously need to work in the black economy to afford food. As for full time workers with families..what time have they to avail of the black economy?? Unlike Ireland where the majority of the unemployed(on a 1000 euro a month) do mixers(cash in hand) and bring their wages above the level of actual full time workers.
I know about Poles working for more than is on their contract,but, still doesn't mean they earn more than the average. Minimum wage plus 200 zloty is still sh1t money.
SO my info is not to be dismissed average salary:
Central Statistical Office of Poland (GUS) provided in 2009 that 65,35% of Polish wages are below Polish avarage wage and this is a fact.
The most common wage was 2.091,35 (about 700USD)
Only 10% earned more than 5.376,34 PLN (1792 USD)
only 34,65% employees had avarage wages (3.232,07)(1077USD)
All data quoted are gross monthly wages. Avalon is on your ignore list. [+] [-]
in sweden people want 6 hour daays,cooking for your children is a stupid progressive idea i guess,,long live capitalism,and the american system with 6 million in jail and 4 million living on the street.
In Poznan These data are based on 603 entries in the past 18 months from 43 different contributors. Median Monthly Disposable Salary (After Tax) 2,750.00 zł 2,400.00 3,000.00
