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Is there a market for teaching Dutch in Poland


MatteoCarati  3 | 30  
4 Jul 2013 /  #1
Hello

* Is there any demand for private lessons Dutch?
* How many students a week i could teach?
* How much could one ask for 1 hour of teaching?

Thanks !
bbcr4  - | 6  
4 Jul 2013 /  #2
Yeah, I guess there is a market for that. I guess the best solution would be to teach via Skype. I guess a lot of Poles living and working in Holland would be interested.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
4 Jul 2013 /  #3
* Is there any demand for private lessons Dutch?

Not really. Perhaps some small amount of interest, but you'd be looking at 4 hours a week at the most.

* How much could one ask for 1 hour of teaching?

Depends on the market where you live.
OP MatteoCarati  3 | 30  
4 Jul 2013 /  #4
I launched an advertisement on FAcebook and i got 18 messages from people who wanted to learn Dutch. I was impressed by the amount of people who wanted to learn Dutch, and I wonder why that is.

Note that this was just to check, and there would be no charge (like i offer dutch , you offer me polish).

So i guess there should be a decent amount of interest of people who want to get private lessons, like indeed as you said, around 4 to 5 hours a week, maybe at a rate of 60 zloty/hour

In a month that would be a decent amount.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
4 Jul 2013 /  #5
I launched an advertisement on FAcebook and i got 18 messages from people who wanted to learn Dutch. I was impressed by the amount of people who wanted to learn Dutch, and I wonder why that is.

Poles are really keen on learning languages in general, but what you'll find is that most of them will be poor students who won't have the means to pay for a teacher.

Note that this was just to check, and there would be no charge (like i offer dutch , you offer me polish).

Doesn't really mean anything then. You should put an advertisement offering classes and you'll see the response then.

So i guess there should be a decent amount of interest of people who want to get private lessons, like indeed as you said, around 4 to 5 hours a week, maybe at a rate of 60 zloty/hour

60zl/hour is unlikely to happen in the current environment with someone who has no experience as a teacher and no knowledge of Dutch philology. 40zl/hour would be more realistic, and even then, it's going to be unreliable.

In a month that would be a decent amount.

Not really. Polish people are somewhat unreliable and they won't hesitate to cancel at short notice or simply stop showing up. Relying on private lessons for income is - usually - a bad idea.
OP MatteoCarati  3 | 30  
4 Jul 2013 /  #6
It would be as an additional income, not my first income.

I also offered Italian as a language to learn (i am fluent in Italian). Almost nobody wanted to learn Italian, all of them wanted to learn Dutch. That really surprised me.

If you ask in the South of Europe to learn Dutch people don't even care. Actually they wouldn't in any country as far as i know. Poland seems to be an acception.

You are right about the fact that mostly poor students want to learn and wouldn't be able to pay.

But around 500 zl / month should be achievable.

What websites can i put such an advertisement? Thank you
jon357  73 | 23073  
4 Jul 2013 /  #7
A friend took Dutch lessons (he's a Netherlandophile and wanted to improve his chances of a good job there). When he went to Amsterdam for an interview and started speaking Dutch, the interviewer told him not to bother because everyone he would be working with was fully functional in English.
DominicB  - | 2706  
5 Jul 2013 /  #8
Agree with delphiandomine. Finding Poles interested in learning Dutch is easy. Finding students who are willing to pay is not. And finding reliable and dependable students is a whole other thing entirely.

Charging 60 PLN will attract few, if any students. That's my price for teaching English, and if it weren't for word of mouth, I would have few students indeed. Quality long-term students paying decent money comes only after you establish a reputation for yourself. Until then, you will have to put up with unreliable students who cancel lessons a lot or quit after a few lessons. You might bring in a few zlotys, but it's definitely not going to be much, and you won't be able to count on it. You certainly cannot assume that you are going to regularly bring in even 500 PLN a month.
Lyzko  
5 Jul 2013 /  #9
I've had Dutch learners from Poland whose English was slightly less than functional. I've also had Dutchies who desired to learn Polish for study purposes and whose English was completely functional, so it's tough to generalize:-)
Kowalski  7 | 621  
8 Jul 2013 /  #10
What websites can i put such an advertisement? Thank you

e-korepetycje.net/dolnoslaskie/wroclaw/jezyk-niderlandzki

^ your competition in Wroclaw there
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
8 Jul 2013 /  #11
^ your competition in Wroclaw there

Crickey, 40zl/hour for a Dutch native speaker!


Is the market collapsing in Wroclaw like elsewhere?
Kowalski  7 | 621  
8 Jul 2013 /  #12
steady in Warsaw
e-korepetycje.net/szukaj?what=niderlandzki&category=0&city=&region=0&price_from=&price_to=&place=0&sort=cena&dir=desc
OP MatteoCarati  3 | 30  
8 Jul 2013 /  #13
Those are the people who offer dutch classes as well? Few natives i see.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
8 Jul 2013 /  #14
That's the thing - for such a language as Dutch, you can already see that people are willing to give classes for as little as 40zl an hour despite being native.
OP MatteoCarati  3 | 30  
8 Jul 2013 /  #15
Yeah, well, still 40 zloty is better than nothing.
Kowalski  7 | 621  
8 Jul 2013 /  #16
Wroclaw would be special with so many offers as they apparently have Dutch language department at university there so I think graduates and students would offer classes. Few natives, at least on this website which is entirely polish so no surprise. Many are certified though or they claim so.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
8 Jul 2013 /  #17
Yeah, well, still 40 zloty is better than nothing.

Bear in mind that 40zl includes preparation time, travelling time and so on.
Lyzko  
8 Jul 2013 /  #18
Matteo, not meaning to be sarky or what, but the number of English courses for foreigners offered by English native speakers I can measure with an anometer:-)

I'm certainly as qualified to teach basic to intermediate Dutch as anybody, only prob is, I'm here and you're thereLOL
At present, I don't do Skype either.
Ziemowit  14 | 3936  
9 Jul 2013 /  #19
I tnink there's no real market for teaching Dutch here in Poland. For example, before my visit to the Netherlands this year, I decided to learn some Dutch, but then I had chosen to find out a good computer course instead of having private tutoring. This was simpler and I did not have to stick to some "regime of learning". I imagine those who wanted to take up work in the Netherlands might be interested, but then they are those who need to earn money doing some simple work there, so not be interested to learn Dutch at some decent level.

Having said that, I shall add that Dutch is a very amusing and challanging language through which one can also discover the heritage of Germanic languages as well as find a sort of bridge between English and German! If I persevere in learning Dutch - who knows? - maybe I will try to have a private tutor eventually.
Monitor  13 | 1810  
10 Jul 2013 /  #20
I also offered Italian as a language to learn (i am fluent in Italian). Almost nobody wanted to learn Italian, all of them wanted to learn Dutch. That really surprised me.

That's because 4th most popular emigration destination of Poles is Netherland (and perhaps after crisis in Ireland 3rd) with over 100 000 emigrants there.

No other European country has so big emigration as Poland, so most of Italians don't consider emigrating to Netherland, so they don't care about the language.

Italian is not so trendy language now, because Italian economy is in bad shape and unemployment there is rising.

Also there are job offers with good (as for Poland) salaries in outsourcing companies for Poles knowing Dutch.

About you teaching here the problem may be that your target group are people who want to learn Dutch and already know English. That limits number of clients substantially. I am afraid that newbie would rather go to Polish Dutch teacher rather than native Dutch who doesn't know Polish language.
Marius  1 | 33  
27 Jul 2013 /  #22
MatteoCarati

I did Dutch language teaching for over a year in Krakow (I am native Dutch). PM me if you need more info.

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