Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks).

convex 20 | 3928

12 Jul 2010 / #241

It is rather such companies as Assecco who should grow their own R&D.

Absolutely. Again, the majority of what they're doing isn't groundbreaking. They're a software house and systems integrator, and they provide the same thing that their competition provides, but cheaper. They are still however an incredibly bright spot. I'm not sure how big they are on developing their employees.

Guest

27 Jul 2010 / #242

Each memeber in my family has between 2000-8000 PLN so if the people agree for 1000 it's their choice.

milky 13 | 1656

27 Jul 2010 / #243

What is the person on 8000 working at if you don't mind me asking?

FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1878

16 Aug 2010 / #244

today, on onet.pl, the headline is an article discussing salaries in Poland of people graduating college.

sorry for it all being in Polish but:

biznes.onet.pl/najbardziej-przyszlosciowe-kierunki-studiow,18563,3334916,1,news-detal

"Graduates university studies in Poland in his first career earning per month at two thousand zł gross."

"Like the all employees, the highest wages can expect graduates taking up employment in the Warsaw. There, the median monthly salary amounts to almost 2.800 zł and it is about 33% higher than in the second statement in Wroclaw(2.200 zł). At the a similar level graduates earn in Krakow, Lodz, Gdansk and Szczecin (2.000). As the results of the National Compensation Research conducted in 2009 by Sedlak & Sedlak, in the regional wage comparisons worst record people starting a professional adventure [and] in Lublin[/i] (1.600 zł).

Mind you, These numbers are the average salaries of people graduating with master's degrees, not the overall average salaries in each city.

here's some more:

"Better earn people with technical and economical. The data show that the most money have the graduates in companies from the telecommunications and information technology industry. Here the first salary equal to the wages at the level of 2.800 and 2.500 per month gross. Followers in the statement of earnings in terms of graduates employed in banking and energy sector - 2.200 zł

"The worst have those beginning their careers in education (1.500 zł), trade (1.700 zł) and the public sector (1.600)."

Harry

16 Aug 2010 / #245

What is the person on 8000 working at if you don't mind me asking?

I know English teachers who make that much.

slick578 11 | 16

16 Aug 2010 / #246

I found it on a teaching English blog but the article discusses average income in Poland.
and I have to agree with the average value quoted at being around 2,800PLN per month...
Average monthly salary question has been tackled here:

Look at this scenario...
Polish GDP per capita is somewhere around $11,000.
Ignore the ******** about PPP or GDP being an unreal average income value, look at what this figure represent... It is the sum of everything produced in Poland divided by the number of people living in Poland. Therefore it is the empirical average income and your best indicator as to what to aim for in terms of income.

doyouspeakpolish.blogspot.com/p/newbies-guide-to-polish-tefl.html

convex 20 | 3928

16 Aug 2010 / #247

What is the person on 8000 working at if you don't mind me asking?

I know quite a few people working in IT on 8-10 a month. Project managers on 10+

Harry

16 Aug 2010 / #248

I found it on a teaching English blog but the article discusses average income in Poland.

and I have to agree with the average value quoted at being around 2,800PLN per month...

and you will see that the average lesson fee is around 30PLN.

30zl per hour is laughable in Warsaw. I don't know of anywhere (other than Berlitz) which pays less than 50zl per 45 minutes. Some places pay quite a bit more than 50zl per 45 minutes and if you have private contracts you can easily charge 80zl per 45 minutes.

milky 13 | 1656

16 Aug 2010 / #249

I know English teachers who make that much.

I'd say you do alright.

Harry

16 Aug 2010 / #250

I don't teach English much, haven't for the best part of five years now.

lateStarter 2 | 45

16 Aug 2010 / #251

So you don't think it would be unreasonable for me to ask for 60zl per 45 minutes on my next offer? I have been doing this on and off for a few years, mostly at advanced level. Is it easier to justify if I am teaching a small group (in Warsaw)?

I have a regular day job, but I like to get out of the house and away from the computer now and then, and I enjoy meeting new people. They asked at the last contract signing if 50 was still ok, so I'm guessing that they are suprised I haven't raised my rate.

Ryoga - | 3

16 Aug 2010 / #252

I just moved to Warsaw, walking around the center and just watching people have fun they actually don't look like people making 3k net, more like 7-8k at least.

Otherwhise I wouldn't see so many people wearing LaCoste or Ralph Lauren polos or Armani Jeans. Not everyone, but the proportion is not too different from the one I find in other cities in Europe.

Weird...

milky 13 | 1656

16 Aug 2010 / #253

what's this got to do with low average wage in Poland?

convex 20 | 3928

16 Aug 2010 / #254

Because when a country doesn't have an educated workforce, they can only perform low paying jobs. That is, FDI goes to factory jobs and not engineering jobs. That is what they have to do with one another.

zetigrek

16 Aug 2010 / #255

It's bs these whole babling about engineers needed. GREAT PROPAGANDA spreaded by polish media. I know lots of ppl who graduated technical unis and struggles to find well paid job!

Btw. the title of this threat is a poor nonsense. No one earn so little money on full time work...

Average wage in Poland is 2500 PLN (following money.pl )

The polish salaries of low qualified jobs is something like 1600 PLN (from my observations)
No one would live for 1000 PLN.

dtaylor5632 18 | 1998

16 Aug 2010 / #256

No one would live for 1000 PLN.

I met many people who lived in countryside around Rzeszow who worked full time and only for around 860pln a month.

zetigrek

16 Aug 2010 / #257

so they must been starving...

dtaylor5632 18 | 1998

16 Aug 2010 / #258

not really, its very cheap to live there. Single person in Krk can live of 1500 a month if needs be.

milky 13 | 1656

16 Aug 2010 / #259

what's the average take home monthly wage after tax???

FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1878

16 Aug 2010 / #260

Newsweek today: they rank "The Best Countries in the World" in categories such as quality of living, health care, diversity, etc., and Poland was ranked #1 as "The Best Upper-Middle Income Nation", stating:

"As a member of the EU (it joined in 2004), Poland is increasingly leaving its communist past behind--and for the better, it seems. As the top upper-middle-income country, Poland is pretty much a winner across the board. Its political environment is the best in its category and it's in the top 10 for economic dynamism, education, health, and quality of life. In August of 2010, Poland elected its fourth democratically chosen president; its large cities, such as Krakow and Warsaw, are becoming increasingly vibrant and wealthy."

milky 13 | 1656

17 Aug 2010 / #261

As the top upper-middle-income country,

nonsense

convex 20 | 3928

17 Aug 2010 / #262

Poland was the highest earner in the upper-middle income category last year, now part of high income (over $12k/yr GNI per capita).

Human development index says about the same thing by the way. Poland beats out Argentina, Chile, Turkey, Hungary, Slovakia...

milky 13 | 1656

17 Aug 2010 / #263

so even if its 2500 zloty thats. That 156 euro a week, and then taxed it would be???

convex 20 | 3928

17 Aug 2010 / #264

Dunno, but I do know that you can get a kilo of potatoes for about €0.25 in the city.

delphiandomine 86 | 17823

17 Aug 2010 / #265

I've seen it as low as 0.80zl in Poznan, and as little as 0.60zl in Przemysl about two weeks ago.

jagat84 - | 1

17 Aug 2010 / #266

Hi Friends!

Saw your dialogues and felt too much touching. But it's a universal issue of survival and working hard for that compromising with basic needs and needs of beloved. I wish you all the best there to have a better life with money and of course at the top of all, with your family members.

Jagat (India).

FUZZYWICKETS 8 | 1878

17 Aug 2010 / #267

is it fair to group Poland in with every other "upper-middle income" country and say they're the best?

Poland receives boat loads of money from the EU, money they didn't earn. If all the other "upper-middle income" countries received the same amount of cash, we may have seen a different country get to the top of the leaderboard, no?

A lot of countries on that list are very surprising.

milky 13 | 1656

17 Aug 2010 / #268

Dunno, but I do know that you can get a kilo of potatoes for about €0.25 in the city.

Average rent for a small apartment is well over half of your monthly wage. I pay in Ireland about a sixth of my monthly wage for a large apartment. Potatoes are a minor detail when you are already broke after rent or mortgage.

delphiandomine 86 | 17823

17 Aug 2010 / #269

Average rent for a small apartment is well over half of your monthly wage.

Wrong. Small apartment = about 1000zl in Poznan city centre, can be as cheap as 700zl. Average wage here is definitely higher than the 3300zl Polish average - so yet again, your facts are wrong. Even in the sticks, you can pick up a decently sized flat for about 500zl a month - which is perfectly affordable.

I pay in Ireland about a sixth of my monthly wage for a large apartment.

Somehow, I think you're speaking as a man living in Krakow who doesn't work, rather than someone in Ireland. I know Irish property prices, and you're not going to get somewhere for 1/6th of an average salary unless it's some sort of council place.

convex 20 | 3928

17 Aug 2010 / #270

Keep in mind that most people are living rent free, or in subsidized housing. Polands home ownership rate (no mortgage) is nearly 70%.

If you're making an average Polish wage and living in one of the larger cities, you screwed up somewhere.