Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks).

You forgot to mention that it's a time of the cheapest money in the history of the modern world.


The prices are coming back down. House prices historically raise in value at the rate of inflation. Corrections happen over the same period of time as it took for prices to rise. Regarding CHF/PLN, the first one was a freebie, the interest rates dropped and it made up for the change in exchange rate. Interest rates can't drop anymore...

You would think that people who seem to know everything on this forum would be able to provide accurate information about wages in poland, my friend is a truck driver clears 950zl a month but gets a cash bonus if he works overtime. I know a person who works as a teller in a bank gets 1600zl gross per month. I know that age pensioners get around 850 zl a month.

They can get much, much more. Let's not forget that there are people out there who managed to get early retirement, then work quite happily cash in hand - and many of the people who got early retirement were in no way "over the hill". Who do you think is working in many of those private car parks?

One thing is very clear : there's a massive gap between the wages in big cities and outside of big cities. But then again, you can buy a flat in "commie osiedle nowhereville" for next to nothing as well.


It's an unskilled job and barely attracts much more than minimum wage in the UK just as well. But the career path is quite steep and so it has its own rewards.

I'm also not sure why people seem to think that living in a small flat is somehow symbolic of Poland being backwards - do you really think most people in London are living in mansions?

Delphiandomine wrote:


if anyone, including the Moderator of this forum, is wondering why I continue to bust Delphiandomine's balls and demand for him to answer my notorious "questions" that he still continues to ignore, here is case and point. Yet again, blind assumptions about me, gross misinterpretations, and flat out inaccurate statements. borderline slandering. it stops me from having normal conversation on this forum.

he's a total disease.

not all people live in a small flat and a lot of people living in Poland are living in better, bigger and better homes than those in GB, I suppose the bottom line is that some poles are very well off, but most struggle, I don't think somebody is going to employ a pensioner...!!, doing what may I suggest.

Look at Japan, they traditionally have small apartments. I lived in 2 and saw many so I should know. The Polish ones are bigger and don't have fusuma (sliding doors with paper-thin material) either.

The average take-home pay is around 2600PLN after tax and ZUS. Or so they say ;)

You're not busting my balls, mate.


I'm absolutely astounded that you call yourself an English teacher when you make such basic mistakes in English. As I said - what are you going to do when native teachers are seen as nothing special?

As an aside - is it just anecdotal evidence, or are English teaching salaries actually going down?

Delphiandomine wrote:


swwwwwwwiiiiiiing and a miss!

if anything, you just proved to the forum how essential a native can be, especially regarding articles.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with an article in that instance. it can be said both ways, each having a slightly different meaning.

leave articles to the native speakers, pappy.

you love to boast how I lack credentials, well, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. you clearly lack the credentials to comment on article usage in English.

Delphiandomine wrote:


can't speak for anyone else, but I've been making money hand over fist. in fact, i'll be in your neck of the woods next month, 2 days of teaching, 1300PLN, hotel, transportation and meals paid.

it's like shooting fish in a barrel with you, pappy.

A 25 year old kid with less than 18 months experience living in Poland, doesn't speak Polish and is not a native speaker of English.......oh......and who doesn't even pay his own rent.....

somehow i think you lack the credentials, me boy.

oh, and don't forget to visit lindenia ;)

Most of us have just concluded that you're a bit of a prick sometimes.


'Having good conversation'? While one could try to argue that it is grammatically correct, at best it sounds rather unnatural. If you're going to use the word in its intangible sense, you really shouldn't use the verb 'have' (how does one possess something which cannot be owned?); you need a verb such as 'engage'.

Harry wrote:


you must be kidding me.

i don't know who looks sillier now, you or Delph.

As far as I'm concerned, it makes you sound like an simpleton. Typical American English really - and it's why American English is looked down upon by everyone in the UK and Ireland. Anyone saying "Stops me having normal conversation" simply sounds Polish (or indeed, from any other language where articles aren't used). Of course, cover up as you will, but your posts are riddled with grammatical mistakes. If I was obsessive like you, I'd go through your posts with a fine comb and point out every mistake, but it's far more fun to watch you make them repeatedly!


Anyone who has to boast about what money they're earning on an internet forum (where they clearly won't back it up with any evidence) is quite frankly deluded. Also, I find it hard to believe that anyone in Poznan (where being a scrooge is seen as a positive character trait) would pay that kind of money when there's a university here with far more qualified natives than yourself working there, along with several established natives-only schools with teachers with far more qualifications (and reputation) than yourself.

Anyone can be a hero on the internet, can't they? :)

(keep on rocking with those 30zl/hr private lessons!)

Tell you what, we're taking a trip to Wroclaw sooner rather than later, I'm sure you'll be game for visiting Poznanians in the pub, won't you? I can tell you all about Asia...

A 25 year old kid with less than 18 months experience living in Poland, doesn't speak Polish and is not a native speaker of English.......oh......and who doesn't even pay his own rent.....

somehow i think you lack the credentials, me boy.

oh, and don't forget to visit lindenia ;)

1,943 posts so far kid.

in your own words, "Anyone can be a hero on the internet, can't they? :)"

Yup, hence why I invite you to the pub either in Poznan or in Wroclaw :)

That's "18 months' experience". Certainly looks like those people supposedly paying you 650 a day will be happy with their purchase.

I'm sure a 25 year old kid who's been in Poland all of 17 months, doesn't speak Polish nor native English and doesn't pay his own rent will have a wealth of knowledge to share with me about life in Poland over a few beers.

Can't wait.

Errr... [scratching in the head]... You know guys as Pole I really appreciate that you care so much about minimum, average and median salary in Poland ;-) It seems to me that some of you should try finding job at GUS, I'm sure they could use such passionate truth seekers ;-)

you've gotta be kidding me Harry. i don't even use capital letters half the time let alone pay attention to punctuation like that.

It's an interesting topic actually, because the black economy is still very strong in Poland. You might hear about people on 600zl disability benefits - but what they're not telling you is that they also work full time in a parking garage making another 1000zl cash in hand - and bearing in mind that they'll qualify for social housing with such low benefits, they're actually not that badly off.

For what it's worth, I don't believe the statistics at all when it comes to wages. Real examples count for much more.

No, you do use apostrophes: you just don't use them correctly.

There is nothing wrong with this English.

Blind assumptions? I think below are blind assumptions too.


Please stop slagging each other off, this is Polish Forums and not the Fuzzy and Delphi show. You are both as bad as each other.

Median Salary is the best way to judge salary in Poland. I know some who earn a lot, some who earn a little. I earn 1300zl for 2 days while in Poland every weekend im there.

Well, of course statistics is the highest level of lies ;-) But on the other hand, what you are hearing on the street is just another kind of statistics too... As for "gray zone" or "black market" it can be measured too for some extent. It is actually quite stable in Poland and is valued as about 28% of GDP (in UK for example it is about 10%). Quite frankly I have no idea how to transer that into median registered salary. Should we add 1/3 so about 800zł? I'm not sure it is working that way. But one thing I'm sure of is that you overestimate "gray zone" size. I'm mean of course many people have some sideline, untaxed jobs, etc., but it is rarely constant situation and what is important often it is seasonal. In the end what really matters in home ecomony is how much one can bring in whole year.

steveramsfan wrote:


haha, one would think right? you'd be surprised how accurate those statements are. ok, the asian comment was stretchin' it a bit ;)

steveramsfan wrote:


you arrogant bastard! ;)

maybe I'll take you up on that night out Delph, I could tell you how you can start earning real cash here in Poland.

Sorry, i should not have wrote that about earning 1300zl.

Please tell me you don't teach English.

No I don't teach English but I am English.

The you know it should be "should not have WRITTEN". Just a small point and I don't want to start another flame war here.


I agree.

Current figures (according to today's New Poland Express):

Median gross salary in Warsaw PLN 5200.
Median gross salary in Krakow PLN 3600.
Median gross salary in Lublin PLN 2800.

lol, I don't know many people who earn this sort of money, I must ask around.

Wow, the Pruszków and Wołomin crew are certainly hiking the average salary up ;) ;) Their money doesn't count as who really applies through legitimate channels for a mafia post? ;)

5200PLN net at a push. That's paying 840PLN ZUS and a lot of tax. I'd say just the other side of 5000PLN gross.

Steveramsfan wrote:


you mean an Englishman made a mistake with past participles? present perfect....incorrectly used.....by an Englishman! NO WAY! only Americans do that, no?!!!

for what it's worth ramsfan, i don't give a toss how you use present perfect, just making a point.

Scottie1113 wrote:


because there is nothing wrong with it.

a non native speaker critiquing a native speaker's article usage. a guy who has never been to America, but remains her biggest critic, and a guy who has his own website offering consultation services for foreigners new to Poland, yet has lived here less than 18 months (14 months when he first advertised his website on this forum), doesn't speak Polish, or even pay his own rent.

i think dagenhamdave put it best last November on this forum, and summarizes my general feelings about Delphiandomine, his "website", or anything else he types for that matter:

"We can see that you are a lazy student who can't be bothered getting dressed for bed, and says that "Aberdeen can f**k off". You're a kid. Go away, get some experience, and come back when you've got something genuine to offer. The fact is, you're trying to escape from English teaching, but you don't have any proper experience or knowledge of anything else to do so."