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Marek11111  9 | 807  
15 Jan 2011 /  #121
f stop:
so many brainwashed, judgmental fools.. spewing slogans, not able to think for themselves.. believing that casting a vote will make you a good citizen. Same as going to confession will make you a good catholic.

that is on a mark some people on this forum do not think for them self just repeating main news channels propaganda.

the china is taking over, U.S. role in Asia is being minimizes. China has a missile capable of taking out any U.S. carrier, it is a land base for now but it alter power so if China wants to unite Taiwan with main land U.S. promise to protect Taiwan is no longer valid, and the stealth fighter test. China is buying the bonds from Europe and U.S to keep the game going but it is preparing for showdown over Asia dominance and even world dominance.

Remember years ago when china pilot clip U.S. spy airplane and forced to land in china and U.S. let them go in and take out all the electronics out ho was president at the time?

if it was me I would send missiles and destroy in where it landed.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #122
China is buying the bonds from Europe and U.S to keep the game going but it is preparing for showdown over Asia dominance and even world dominance.

Which is why US must act against them very soon instead of striving to become like them. I heard a phone interview with Newt Gingrich the other day. He was bragging about how smart his friend is because he knows fluent Mandarin! Gingrich, the sellout, equates intelligence not with invention and creativity, but with speaking "fluent Mandarin." It's clear what direction our politicians are taking us. They would absolutely love it if this place were more like China. That way they get to keep all the tax dollars to do what they please while quality of life for the people gets lower and lower. Just like, surprise, China.
Marek11111  9 | 807  
15 Jan 2011 /  #123
Which is why US must act against them very soon instead of striving to become like them

we cannot start another war but what we can do or what the U.S. gov can do is to bring all manufacturing jobs back home and put tariff on anything that comes from outside the borders

but that will not happen in current political system.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #124
That's what I mean and that is what our govt should do! Our government won't because politicians like their trips to China and covet the obedience of the Chinese citizens. They wish they could go home and have the same situation here. That way we are easier to exploit. We are weak.

This is why the govt refuses to protect our interests.
Well, guess what? In the constitution, it says the govt is supposed to protect us first and foremost, above all else.
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
15 Jan 2011 /  #125
we cannot start another war but what we can do or what the U.S. gov can do is to bring all manufacturing jobs back home and put tariff on anything that comes from outside the borders

Agree to a point. Tarrifs on countries that don't play by the same rulebook.
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #126
the china is taking over,

China has a missile capable of taking out any U.S. carrier,

move then to China you disrespectful moron (calling me names like "kurwa", spelled by this proud Pole "Korwa". You're too stupid to even represent your own country Poland)

here about your beloved China

economicshelp.org/essays/problems-chinese-economic-growth.html
PennBoy  76 | 2429  
15 Jan 2011 /  #127
China has a missile capable of taking out any U.S. carrier

America's got a couple thousand nuclear missiles " As of 2006, it was believed to maintain an arsenal of around 9,960 intact warheads, of which 5,735 were considered active or operational, and of these only a certain number were deployed at any given time. These broke down into 5,021 "strategic" warheads, 1,050 of which were deployed on land-based missile systems (all on Minuteman ICBMs), 1,955 on bombers (B-52, B-1B, and B-2), and 2,016 on submarines (Ohio class), according to a 2006 report by the Natural Resources Defense Council.[28] Of 500 "tactical" "nonstrategic" weapons, around 100 are Tomahawk cruise missiles and 400 are B61 bombs."
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #128
here about your beloved China

Marek isn't pro China. We have to be realistic about China, though. They are actually the biggest risk to our security, worse than Al Qaeda but far stronger so you don't hear about it as much.
Wroclaw Boy  
15 Jan 2011 /  #129
skysoulmate:
Some 80% of items at Walmart is made in China!

One reason why my family doesn't shop at Walmart.

Ahh ha so most of what you write here has been galvanised into you by your parents.

that would make perfect sense.

They are actually the biggest risk to our security, worse than Al Qaeda but far stronger so you don't hear about it as much.

why are they a risk to your security?

Well, guess what? In the constitution, it says the govt is supposed to protect us first and foremost, above all else.

its that constitution again. it says so in the constitution it must be right
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #130
We have to be realistic about China

yes we have to be realistic

READ THIS

economicshelp.org/essays/problems-chinese-economic-growth.html
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #131
Every country has problems, gw. China is not perfect but well on it's way to becoming a viable threat. Perhaps it is already there. We need to be realistic about it instead of praising them to the skies, which is what you hear in the media. Remember when they were declared "most favored nation?" Since when is it American to put another country above all others and declare it is most favored? That is just ridiculous!

But, it's proof of what I am talking about. China is too influential and too cold.
China should start taking care of Chinese and stop trying to dominate through acquisition of bonds at the expense of their own citizens.

@wb...our constitution was written to protect America and her future generations ;)
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
15 Jan 2011 /  #132
China should start taking care of Chinese and stop trying to dominate through acquisition of bonds at the expense of their own citizens.

Too bad you and the average Chinese has not much say in what China should do...

On topic, or in the bin
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #133
why are they a risk to your security?

They took our jobs, they bought our bonds and they treat their citizens like utter crap, the Chinese govt does. Not the best example to follow but our politicians act like they have been thoroughly bought by this red dragon at times.

This crisis in America is due partly to shrinkage in the manufacturing sector due to loss of jobs to Asia. That, my friend, is a threat to our national security since it's wrecking havoc on our economy and this is known to cause civil unrest and instability. See how sly the red dragon is?

Okay...enough about China.
Marek11111  9 | 807  
15 Jan 2011 /  #134
pennyboy:
America's got a couple thousand nuclear missiles

they have nuclear missiles too, but it is not about that.
it is about shifting the power about the sphere of influence that is where conventional weapons are and will dominate.

PlasticPole:
China, though. They are actually the biggest risk to our security

China got the manufacturing jobs along with technology from U.S. and yes they are the risk but will not do anything as long as they keep making money and arming.

I think the biggest treat to our security are corporations that allow china to gain technology and banks that put our economy on bring of collapse.
ShawnH  8 | 1488  
15 Jan 2011 /  #135
On topic, or in the bin

I can handle that.
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #136
Ahh ha so most of what you write here has been galvanised into you by your parents.

that would make perfect sense.

Don't allow yourself to judge my parents because it's a long way for you to go to get where they have already been long time ago. You just wish you had parents like I do.

At least I don't have to immigrate to another country to search for my "happiness" because I don't have any future here.

Every country has problems

this is what I repeated at least 20 times on this forum to show that having problems is not just an American phenomenon. The problem is that you guys only concentrate on us like there's nobody else out there who struggles too.

China is not perfect but well on it's way to becoming a viable threa

If you read what I posted then you know that China is a really "viable threat" to itself.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #137
this is what I repeated at least 20 times on this forum to show that having problems is not just an American phenomenon. The problem is that you guys only concentrate on us like there's nobody else out there who struggles too.

...because we are Americans and if we don't look out for ourselves, no one else will ;)
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #138
What do you understand under looking out for "ourselves"? When one is constantly talking bad about his country, is it a part of it?
PennBoy  76 | 2429  
15 Jan 2011 /  #139
...because we are Americans and if we don't look out for ourselves, no one else will ;)

But you're not thinking of yourself as an American you think you're still Polish and think nothing of bashing the States.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #140
American with Polish roots, Pennboy, as I've stated before...

And I don't "bash" my country. I exercise my right to freedom of expression by critiquing what I see are dangerous practices by our govt.
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #141
American with Polish roots, Pennboy, as I've stated before...

There are all kinds of American-Poles out there, some feel still very Polish, some have kind of split feelings about it and some don't even talk about Poland, which of these possibilities describes you PP?
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #142
which of these possibilities describes you PP?

Poland is fascinating. A lot of people don't know much about it which is why it's so interesting discussing it.
PennBoy  76 | 2429  
15 Jan 2011 /  #143
American with Polish roots, Pennboy, as I've stated before...

And I don't "bash" my country. I exercise my right to freedom of expression by critiquing what I see are dangerous practices by our govt.

Yea, well what about the rest of these idiots that don't even live here? What are they doing expressing their freedom of speech?!?
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #144
America is about self expression and using words to critique our government, Pennboy,so why wouldn't we encourage that from people of other nations? It's an inherent part of the American philosophy and a noble one as well :)

It's always been that way.
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #145
I exercise my right to freedom of expression by critiquing

The freedom of expression is very often misunderstood. There's nothing wrong with a healthy criticism and I would never go against anyone of you if that was the case on PF. I have to admit, you're a little softer in your expressions that some other America haters here but still, your persistence can be very annoying when repeating the same all the time.

Why don't you try to see the positive sides of your new country? I know that Poles are not very optimistic people bu default but since you live here it would be nice to learn some optimism too. This country is not built on pessimism PP.

so why wouldn't we encourage that from people of other nations?

Dd they ever encourage you to talk crap about their countries?
convex  20 | 3928  
15 Jan 2011 /  #146
Why don't you try to see the positive sides of your new country? I know that Poles are not very optimistic people bu default but since you live here it would be nice to learn some optimism too. This country is not built on pessimism PP.

What new country? PP was born in the same country as you and I.
PennBoy  76 | 2429  
15 Jan 2011 /  #147
America is about self expression and using words to critique our government, Pennboy,so why wouldn't we encourage that from people of other nations?

Are you listening to yourself PP? Who are they to critisize America? 99% of the countries on this planet are worse off, fix your own **** then talk about others.
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #148
What new country? PP was born in the same country as you and I.

How can you be so sure convex? Do you personally know PP?
You're the one who once said on this forum that we all don't know anything about each other.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
15 Jan 2011 /  #149
Are you listening to yourself PP? Who are they to critisize America? 99% of the countries on this planet are worse off, fix your own **** then talk about others

if that's true that's even more reason why they should spend their tax dollars on their own citizens. That way they improve their standard of living.

In order for a country to improve, govt has got to play a role and help out or else it devolves. Govt is to help people, not hurt people. When govt doesn't help it's bad govt.
guesswho  4 | 1272  
15 Jan 2011 /  #150
99% of the countries on this planet are worse off

Yeah, why don't they talk about China? What's so great about it? They treat they own people like slaves and make them work for peanuts, political opposition is being put in Chinese concentration camps like this one: theepochtimes.com/news/6-3-10/39083.html

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