Pulaski Day (celebrated in the US only)

So far we have known Copernicus was a female! Now Pułaski. Great. The whole Polish history must be abolished.

Have we? Right, "Seksmisja" was a very good film, indeed!

[I shall remind you that your Polish identity has been questioned on this forum by one American and one British troll, in which case you would certainly not know this popular quote from the once very popular Polish film.]

Seriously speaking though, Pulaski - according to the above mentioned research - seems to have been born female, but his body was later heavily masculinized due to a condition known as hyperactivity of the adrenal gland.

Oughtn't it then be the PulaskA Day Parade??
LOL

Somebody might make the whole story into a crazy comedy of errors. :):) We need more films like that.

Merged:

Was Poland's Kazimierz Pulaski a woman?

There's a surprise. Emilia Plater the mannish and genderbending Polish lady soldier is well enough known, as is the great Count Fredro, however now it looks like she might now be joined by another transgender LGBTQI+ Pole!


usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/04/06/revolutionary-wars-casimir-pulaski-likely-woman-intersex-research/3381409002/

Nah, that some gibberish she was neither. She was aide-de-camp that happened to cheerlead some or other charge. A poet and a legend made it much more that it was.


Who? do you mean Capitan Fredro that poet? He wasn't a woman for goodness sake, that just nonsense.


Have they run out of research money and are looking to scam some ideologically obsessed people? Good on them. Sober people do not need to take a part in that charade.

nonsense those are modern identities that people of the time would not recognize nor necessarily feel any affinity for...

my own idea is that this is part of the ideological war of erasing Europe's past... depsicable and (I bet) lousy science.

Not that modern. Emilia Plater dressed as a man, and it seems that Kazimierz Pulaski (I wonder what her real name was) may have pretended to be one. Those identities certainly existed then, had names and were usually criminalised; there are records of trials and contemporary accounts of the lifestyle. It existed and there is hard proof of that.


Count Fredro the playwright. He dressed as a woman and more besides.


Cobblers.

I wonder if she should now be referred to as Kazimierza Pulaska...

Of course Kazimera rather than Kazimierza. A lot of street names in PL could need changing.

there was a dna analysis, if he were female it would have shown up there.... best bet is that he was male with some outlier secondary characteristics more typical of females

Do you prefer to go by Joan or Joanne?


Of course, a true Pole would never have made such a simple mistake and need to correct it :)


Such as drawings and paintings of Pulaski with a receding hairline and full mustache?

Where does the A go? Shouldn't there be and A in there somewhere?

What does the dna say? Unless there's no Y then... this is hype for headlines and not a real story...

On my school report.


It's certainly a real story, and an interesting one.

This is just Cultural Marxist propaganda.

Only last year all of Britain was fall over themselves while celebrating that their "first Briton" (aka "Cheddar man") was black. That was soon debunked but the debunking didn't get nearly the amount of hyper-attention that the first published lie did.

And one that is perhaps one of the most well known Europeans in American history!

A remarkable woman.

You're just descending to Rich and Dirk level now... there's sometimes not that much difference between you...

I doubt that's physically possible.

Cross dressing and genderbending was surprisingly common among the Eighteenth Century's wealthy. The Chevalier D'Eon is the best known example, there are a few notable military and scientific men who turned out to have been biologically female, and the famous Warsaw resident Casanova was known to slip a frock on now and again...

Right? Hence they get alone so well like two pairs of twins playing table tennis.


Who cares? Is that even interesting? They have been recognized for something entirely different than their 'fun' activities.

I think I have explained it a few posts earlier (post #32). The proposed explanation was:


If you read the article, you would see they mentioned some mitochondrial dna analysis which revealed he was female (this was also supported by some characteristics of his/her bones).

The phenomenon is well known in medicine. The person affected was in the past more often referred to as hermaphrodite, today we tend to term such a person as an intersex person. Such a condition may have several reasons, one of them is attributed to the said hyperactivity of the adrenal gland which is responsible for the high levels of androgens at the early stage of human development (foetus). Nothing sensational about it really except for the fact that Pulaski is a well-known historical figure.

In legal terms, Kazimierz Pułaski will always remain a man and nothing is going to change that. Also, it is pretty certain that he considered himself male rather than female.

Yes. It is a part of history that people are interested in.

He did.But he was well aware that something was "Not quite right",but also that it was well beyond the understanding of people at the time.

Merged:

Polish general who fought with Washington may have been female

I be damn!
theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/06/casimir-pulaski-polish-general-woman-intersex

Dejavu!