Poles and American Poles. What do you think about those two groups and their interactions.

It would be a little tricky to become Polish, seeing as I have no Polish blood!

delphiandomine
I am not sure how to say it so I would quote you:
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Harry is more ineresting

Polish Americans not Polacks, that's a slur for all Poles u dummy.


HAHA what a nimrod. EU since when? a few years, what about before it was just as hard if not harder getting to western European countries than the U.S, and Poles have been coming here in large numbers since the 1800s. Son pay is higher in the U.S than almost all EU nations, even if someone does make more how far does his money go? EVERYTHING (food, gasoline, housing) costs more in Europe, sometimes much more, so yes it is jealously.

The communist ideology is the most vile and disgusting ideology on earth, many more people died due to communism than its sister ideology - the nazism. Both ideologies are as despicable as it gets and because of those ideologies millions of people were murdered, starved to death and were tortured to death. Anyone who claims the ideology was misunderstood or not executed properly, that the revolution wasn't run by the right people, etc. is a lunatic. An ideology that uses the term dictatorship, be it it by the proletariat or not, as a transitional process is a lunatic ideology.

The term Polack IS a slur and you know it. If you want to speak Polish than by all means do so, in that case the word is Polak, without the letter "C". However in English the proper term IS Pole or an American Pole, British Pole, etc. Polonia, the Polish diaspora, etc. are some other terms that are appropriate. Polack isn't one of them and you are well aware of that.

Most people ignore delphi or get angry with him. Anyway, he has a need to draw attention to himself by being disrespectful.


well, maybe you should give a f**k and care more. Using f words make you a typical close-minded scared little person.


never came across one until this forum. :)


That was the case in the last century and the kids of peasants are 3rd, 4th generation Americans. The immigrants of late 70's and throught the 80's were highly educated. A huge loss for Poland.


In all fairness, I agree with this statement.


Nice try sky but you can not reason with russki born to immigrants in the west. I bet his life was much more miserable than the life of a kid born in America. He was kicked around plenty, hence the anger and a need for derogatory comments. He treats PF as his free therapy to vent his anger.


Exactly, and that's why they don't like each other. Of course, i don't mean each and everyone but most Polonuses tend to feel superior immediately after landing at O'Hare, not to mention the ones born here. Then they start to treat their little cousins in Poland like they don't know what's good for them (elections). That's what I see and the media doesn't help either.


Why don't you apply this statement to yourself. What kind of stories your бабушка (babooshka) told you? lol.

Agree!

Yes, but some people didn't want to sell Poland out: some people stayed here (or even came here) knowing full well that they would make more money outside Poland. Some people put Poland before their personal interests, other people swear to attack Poland. And of course some people didn't need to worry about what would happen when their actions to assist the commie regime were found out about.

By the way: do you think you could try to make a post which does not contain personal insults?

and how many people died due to democratic socialism (for example in Sweden)?

Sweden is not a socialistic country, it's a "blandekonomi" or a mixed economy. The majority of businesses are in private hands. The government owned portion is too large in my view however to use Sweden as a socialistic example is simply incorrect.

Why are you hiding in the non-member abyss?

I meant Social Democracy... oops ;)

I knew what you meant and it's ok. However the comparison is very flawed.

Again, why don't you register?

Really?
I know you was raised In Sweden and it seems that you are an avid supporter of the economic liberalism (am I wrong?) so I'd be really intrested in your point of view. Why's that?


because I don't want to. Do I have to? :)

Not at all, just curious, that's all.


I'm a fiscally conservative libertarian. Depending on which side of the pond you live on, the word "liberal" might mean somewhat different and even opposite things. Government should be very limited and health care certainly shouldn't be part of our government's responsibilities with the exception of tracking and eliminating the abuse. However, it's too late for me for yet another discussion. (3am now) Until next time. Good night.

Ok. Good night then :)

Suddenly no but yes American are much more tolerant of one another than i the past. The 1991 cencus are you kidding... 20 years is a long time.


Are you nuts. America is a melting pot. We are far from perfect and have learned from our mistakes fairly quickly being as young a country as we are. Seems like you are referring to the KKK, which has almost died by the wayside. You also forget that some of this "hate" that you describe was brought here from other countries as well. Almost all Latins hate Mexicans and back and forth.


Well I think the point of this forum is to find out where and who we came from. Although admittedly this is not what goes on here.


Personelly I was on a quest to find out where I came from. I did. I am not sure how to take some of the posts here as most of the posters are not Polish but speak freely about what Poles feel. My relatives in Poland seem to be quite receptive of my queries and have on several occasions asked me to visit.

Remember Poland isn't just an ethnic homeland - it's a large European country which attracts immigrants from elsewhere in Europe. People who have settled here and are qualified and entitled to say how people feel.


You should. It is a land of surprises!

WRONG!Wait till you get a ride in an ambulance and/or spend a few days in a hospital.But I agree that MOST of the stuff is cheaper in the US.

I don't disagree with you JM ..it just seems that some of the posters are just depressed or manic when it comes to Poles who live in the Usa. I am American proud of it but I am proud also of where I came from. I am not up on Polish politics as I don't live there and personelly don't want to stick my nose in anyone elses buisness. I will visit Poland one day.

I will tell you an interesting story about my father'scousin who came to America and stayed with him in my grandfather's house for a short time. This occurred I believe in the early 60's. He worked with my father for just over six months, saved every penny he earned and bought a car. A Cadillac. It wasn't brand new but was an expensive nice looking vehicle. He shipped it back to Poland. It was impounded. The government official said he must have stolen it because there was no way he could earn that kind of money in the Usa. I am curious if this was a common?

The officials in those days (and sadly often since) sometimes saw their job as saying ''no'' in order to come to a discreet arrangement for saying ''yes''. Their rationale would be that anyone who could afford to ship a luxury car back should be good for a few hundred.

We need true full blooded Polelock to immigrate to America

I have NEVER come across what you say. I have always heard Pole. And I grew up in the US and lived here almost my entire life! Look in the dictionary.

I was born in America and my g'parents were from what was Austria-Hungry. People who don't know me well would pass derogatory comments my way. That's fine with me and my family. 3 Masters, 6 B.A.'s, 2 corporations and qualified for Mensa and I will keep my net worth to myself. My large family of generations are mostly professionals or hold M.A.'s or Phd.'s. Dumb Pollock is not a slur, I embrace it and thank you for caring enough about me to evaluate my being. A slur can only be given by someone to whom I have given a position of supremacy. My g'parents, parents etc. didn't raise us that way. I do not grant to you that supremacy. Me and my entire extended generations will continue to strive the high accomplishments and stature that you indicate you have attained.

Dumb Polak jokes though, as with dumb Swede jokes etc. are by now surely a thing of the past! Poland, to a far greater degree of course Sweden, are both highly successful economies, societies and cultures which can draw upon a rich, contributive history. Anyone who a la Archie Bunker maintains otherwise, is simply an incorrigible ignoramus.

BTW that never happened in The UK.
We already had the Irish to mock.......

My response was actually directed at lilpolishman, but sadly, I too am well aware unfortunately of the tendency among many Brits, that is, English, to tease the Irish.

Go back and check out Dr. Johnson's definition of the potato in his well-known dictionary(:-

Stick to the topic of the thread please