Things that Polish-American should know about Poland.

Why do you answer then ?Crying ? stop projecting your feeling sis, did I make you cry ?poor babe !
Actually I can tell you to buzz off and do not comment about things you do not understand enough to comment about ! Specially about country you know little about and have no intension to live in !

Most of us find a sense of who we are with our own actions: how we treat our family, who do we pick as friends, the meaning of our work, what we choose to do in our free time, etc.

Ultra-nationalist "patriots", by definition, are very close-minded. I found that most of them do not get along with their own family members, have no real friends, and are unfullfilled at their jobs.

So, for their sense of pride and belonging they pick something they have absolutely no control over, and do not have to do anything about, like a happenstance of their birthland. It's convenient, because they can't really fvck that up, either.

They draw a line in sand between what they know and what they fear - and they defend it fiercely. Their ego depends on it. They think it gives their lives meaning, while in reality it creates most of the discord in the world.

I'm responding to your weeping pu**y "one thing that's been bugging me for some time" you sound like a little wimp. Pizduś

The only wimp is you - after all, you're the one that told a foreign power that you renounce your Polish citizenship - all for the sake of having more money.

Ironside is totally right - and furthermore, he actually lives here! We may not agree, but heck, at least he's really Polish!

+ 1 fstop. For what it's worth...

+2 :)

No, it's actually quite the opposite: who we are has effect how we relate to the environment we live in and all our relationships.


We don't discuss patriotism in this thread.

-1 from me

Why must you always lie? The convention is not a request to do anything: it is a commitment to which "both Parties have agreed".


And that has how much effect on what is being lied about by ShortHairHolocaustDenier (i.e. "if they [US citizens visiting Poland] break laws, U.S ambasy simply can't help them in those cases.")? Oh yes, none. Interesting to see you of all people siding with the holocaust denier.


How interesting: neither source which I quote contains that statement. How surprising to see you of all people telling bare-faced lies. In fact what the treaty clearly states is: "Persons entering the Polish People's Republic for temporary visits on the basis of United States passports containing Polish entry visas will, in the period for which temporary visitor status has been accorded (in conformity with the visa's validity), be considered United States citizens by the appropriate Polish authorities for the purpose of ensuring the consular protection provided for in Article 29 of the Convention and the right of departure without further documentation, regardless of whether they may possess the citizenship of the Polish People's Republic. So you are actually lying, yet again. Pathetic.


Not in the USA. And not in Poland if that Pole has become an American and entered on their American passport. But why should a turncoat like you worry about telling the truth? You've already said that you lied when taking your oath of allegiance. I bet you're the kind of Pole who would have been joined three different armies as WWII progressed.

And this is why people think Polish people are negative...

And another lie from you, you're really on a role! I linked to no Wikipedia articles. I linked to The Consular Convention between the Government of the United States of America and the Government of the Polish People's Republic and to the US Dept of State's publication "Consular Notification and Access" from July 2010. But of course you prefer the version on Wikipedia. Did you edit it yourself to make it say what you want it to?


And given that you have said that you were a little child when you left Poland (meaning, I would assume, about five years old) and you have been in the USA for 20 years (i.e. since 1991), you would have been about three years old when communism ended. So how much do you remember about communism, boy?

That wikipedia fragment is a direct quote from your source. And the fact remains - American citizens do not need visas to visit Poland. I linked to a Polish government site stating that fact. Hence the 1970's treaty is as good as as the Treaty of Versailles today. Actually it's as good as the Treaty of Versailles was to Britain before WW2 when it betrayed Czekoslovakia.

Which explains why as of July 2010 the US State Department say that it is in effect. Oops, you just got caught lying again.


And neither of the documents I linked to contain the phrase "Poland treats nationals of other countries whom it considers Polish citizens as if they were solely Polish.", despite you claiming that one of them did. Which would make that claim of yours the same as your claim that I linked to Wikipedia, i.e. a lie.


Yet more lies from you: American citizens need visas to visit the entire Schengen zone. The visa is given to them at the immigration checkpoint at which they enter the Schengen zone and can be denied to any American for any valid reason (for example, overstaying the 90-day tourist visa or working on a tourist visa). I personally know Americans who have been refused entry to the Schengen zone. How can they be refused entry if they don't need a visa?


Yes, clearly Britain should have stopped the invasion of Czechoslovakia by attacking the country which led the invasion, i.e. Poland. I do love how Poles can whine about 'western betrayal' given that they were the first country to invade Czechoslovakia.

and your so positive about polish people del???

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

you offer any help for us Polish Americans ?? anything we should know about
Poland ?? ehhh any positive feedback from you for us sausage waving, shirt wearing
potato pancake love my busha peeps over here???

yeah, how about that.

This is true no matter what country they are from.


Harry this is not true. No official visa is required for a US person visiting Schengen for up to 90 days.

Most countries can turn others away for what ever reason.

I have a red stamp of death in my passport. I served my time out of Schengen and have been able to return with no problem. I do have the proper visa for work this time. :-)

The limbo (the Caribbean bend-over-backward dance under a very low stick) was invented by a Scotsman trying to get into a pay toilet!

How about you Rich, have you promised to take up arms against America's enemies ?

This would mean that all the Muslims and jews that have naturalized to the U.S.A. have renounced their allegiance to their Homelands.
Is there anyone here that believes that.

Yes. And I wasn't going to play the second president of the United States and decide which wars were good and just and which were not. I actually had to register with the Selective Service in 1967.


Great point. It shows how naive and stupid the US government is. Just google Kissinger and you will see the bottom of the American stupidity real fast.