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My story. Born In the USA - do I have a chance in Poland, my Mother Country?


scottie1113  6 | 896  
12 Aug 2011 /  #31
if you aren't stupid maybe America is not the place to be.

What a ridiculous comment!
peterweg  37 | 2305  
13 Aug 2011 /  #32
In what way? Americans are world wide renowned for their stupidity. Look who you elect as politicians, hiding any sign of intelligence is a prerequisite to getting elected.

Being thick as ******* is political gold.
convex  20 | 3928  
13 Aug 2011 /  #33
Americans are world wide renowned for their stupidity.

Comments like that usually come from the faux educated crowd who like to follow the herd. Bashing Americans is quite trendy. Short man complex must be a real bitch though.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Aug 2011 /  #34
But the perception remains, convex. Yes, many are intelligent but it doesn't change the traditional stereotype.
nunczka  8 | 457  
13 Aug 2011 /  #35
Maybe you're younger and that's the reason? When I was reading his story a scene from Easy Rider appeared in front of my eyes.

I have lived in America for 86 yrs, and I never witnessed anything like what he is describing.. It sounds like a lot of BS to me
f stop  24 | 2493  
13 Aug 2011 /  #36
In what way? Americans are world wide renowned for their stupidity.

in that case, you sound like an American.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Aug 2011 /  #37
F stop, it wasn't an attack on America. It was a statement of a widely held perception.
4eigner  
13 Aug 2011 /  #38
It was a statement of a widely held perception.

is that why you call yourself Sean US? No smart person in the world would generalize about anything to begin with. A widely held perception created by a whole bunch of thoughtless morons, that's all it is and what's funny about it, mostly people who have never even visited this country like yourself Seanus.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
13 Aug 2011 /  #39
Generalising is wrong, yes. I didn't say I believed it and that's the mistake you are making. It doesn't change the fact that many see a lot of Americans as being dim-witted folk. Some are smart, some are dumb. The same as in every country.
f stop  24 | 2493  
13 Aug 2011 /  #40
F stop, it wasn't an attack on America. It was a statement of a widely held perception.

I think that largely depends on what your interests are. If they a limited to watching reality shows, MTV and Fox news, then you get what you ask for. Not really true if you're into science and technology, for example.

But, I should have stayed out of it, I just hate generalizations like that. It implies that everyone in America is stupid, so it says more about those that think so.

If you want to know more about the OP, check out the basic information on his facebook page: facebook.com/columby

All his neighbours are evil, his family, cops, EVERYONE around him. They have all disappointed him, except the Lord. Unless he puts on a mohair beret, he will not have it better in Poland.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
13 Aug 2011 /  #41
Comments like that usually come from the faux educated crowd who like to follow the herd.

Exactly.

I'm of the opinion that nothing in Europe compares to Ivy League schools for a start.
graceingdansk  - | 24  
13 Aug 2011 /  #42
Well guys, I'm an American woman born in Gdańsk, Poland - my parents immigrated to the US when I was 7, so all I really know is American culture. I live in the Kansas City, Missouri area and hate it for it's climate, not for the in-bred and welfare-raised morons living in the surrounding small towns - and we have to live here because this is where my husband's job is.

I empathize with you chreese, but I seriously doubt that you'll like Poland any better. My husband and I invested heavily in a brand new condo in Ggańsk in 2006 thinking that we'll retire there (we're looking at Italy now and considering selling in Poland). My husband's family has lived in the states for 200+ years, and the family has traced it's roots to Scotland and Britain; my husband finds most Polish people cold, uncooperative, rude, and in some cases horribly dishonest. Gee, sounds just like Americans to me!!!

I've learned the hard way that no place on earth will ever meet your ideal expectations. Stupidity knows no borders. And, chances are, that you nor I are very high on the local's list of ideal citizens either - maybe we're just snobs? Choose a place with the most ideal job oportunity and suitable climate not it's locals.
Pinching Pete  - | 554  
13 Aug 2011 /  #43
Bashing Americans is quite trendy.

..esp among Europeans.
f stop  24 | 2493  
13 Aug 2011 /  #44
most ideal job oportunity and suitable climate not it's locals.

I agree!
roger  
27 Aug 2012 /  #45
Chris- I met you in the past and took a impulsive memory jab at finding SHB on the internet. I came across this page and a few others that spelled out the unfortunate hardship present in your life. I was a wanna be (you are not) and we met in the late 60's- I had a trio in Anna Illinois- we called ourselves the Balloon Farm (catchy-hey) and my father- a dentist- had a club- the Nowhere Club. Does this jog the ole memory? Not expecting you to get this, but I was the fine young fellow that met you,gary, and a stand in prick bass player on your first gig there. i had recently got a new Les Paul and you offered a trade for your I believe older LP. That didn't fly. But, at any rate, you were very nice to me and thank you for that. My music career never flew, I ended up being a psychotherapist now about to back off of this a bit and not work so much. Just for fun I am going to purchase a roland gr55 for retirement. Music is in my soul but I never had the courage to stay with it. I think (know) I also lacked that rare combination of intelligence and talent- I do hope I have the prior and still work relatively hard on the later. So- a brief story is offered- I hope you find some humor in- SHB played three times at our club, if memory serves, and cancelled w/o a real explanation as to why for the fourth becoming unbookable .> GIven this, a folklore about you grew. The story developed to give it a why- a mythos to understand and give closure to our real loss of what was collectively our favorite band believing that you had consumed a hallucinogen and took up flying from buildings as a brief, poorly planed hobby. You had passed in doing so. To this day you are remember by those who saw you perform as a top notch guitarist -period, no doubt. To this day- you- SHB- are remembered easily and upon the remembering a bright affect comes forward on the faces of those present who are now pushing 60 and remember- they were good-real good. Thank you from all of us. I wish you well -wherever you may be hoping peace finds rest with you and your gift. Treat yourself with tenderness and let this be proof that we can loose site becoming unaware of the good our work has done and the extent that it is appreciated ongoing. There are many stories you know not and If I may be so bold will thank you for all unable to address you directly or timely. Be well- thank you. Peace. Peace.

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Polanglik  11 | 303  
27 Aug 2012 /  #46
Chris,

I wish you all the best in your journey to a new life in Poland - I know of many Brits (with Polish roots) who moved to Poland and they tell me they don't regret the move;

It's almost certain that I will be moving my family over to Poland, probably Warsaw, late in 2013.
MoOli  9 | 479  
28 Aug 2012 /  #47
Comments like that usually come from the faux educated crowd who like to follow the herd. Bashing Americans is quite trendy. Short man complex must be a real ***** though

Supported 100%!I think its called small penis syndrome.
Palivec  - | 379  
28 Aug 2012 /  #48
In Europe, where it's much easier to migrate to another country and migrating to countries outside of Europe is also much more common, more than 80% of the people return because it somehow didn't work out. A country that does look great on holiday, on pictures or in stories told by parents is often much different when you have to deal with authorities, when you get sick or old, you don't find a good job etc..

Migrating to Poland because your parents where born there and you don't like parts of the USA sounds nuts to me. Before turning your life upside down (at your age!) at least spend some time there (not just 2 weeks on holiday). You complain about the backwardness of the Midwest. Sorry to say this, but most of Poland is rural and deeply catholic... you will find the same people there.
valpomike  11 | 194  
28 Aug 2012 /  #49
I am older, than many in this group, 71, and I after I sell my home, here in the U.S.A. am moving to Warsaw, Poland. This is a place I spent some time in my past visits to Poland, and love the place, and the people. I want to retire there, since the cost of living is between 40 to 60 percent less than here. My Socail Security check and a small pension will go much farther there than here. I have some family, and many friends living there now. I just want to sell my home, and have had to lower the price two times, because things here are bad, and many can't get a loan for a home. I have lived in many parts of the U.S.A. and visited many other place around the world, and find, Poland is the place for me. We here have a jerk as president, and if he gets in office again, things will get worst yet, and when he does not, and I hope he does not, it will take many years to undo the many bad things he did.

Valpomike
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
28 Aug 2012 /  #50
Poland is the place for me. We here have a jerk as president, and if he gets in office again, things will get worst yet, and when he does not, and I hope he does not, it will take many years to undo the many bad things he did.

Do you realise that Poland is significantly more socialist than your President is?
jon357  73 | 23071  
28 Aug 2012 /  #51
He's still a hundred times better than that monkey who preceded him, but hey, if you want to enjoy the benefits of socialised healthcare, effective public transport and a largely firearm free society, I invite you.
f stop  24 | 2493  
28 Aug 2012 /  #52
It's downright funny how many people in US are livid over the fact that the President is black. :)
Klo  
29 Aug 2012 /  #53
I have to agree with Scottie and some of the other commentors, you say "Most of the people were overweight, talked in broken American. were backward and ignorant and very bigoted, jealous, proud, slanderous, lazy, lustful, and many dangerous. Very rude, had thrown all culture down the toilet." I live in Poland and apart from the overweight bit could apply all of those adjectives to people that I've met here. I think what you're saying is that you don't like human nature. I think before you turn your life upside down trying to find answers in geography you should seek some professional help from a therapist. You sound paranoid narcissistic and delusional. I'm sorry I don't say it as an insult but you seriously need some help to deal with the reality of your situation which may not be so much bad luck as a downward spiral of a very sick man. Your entire story seems to be more of a cry for help and attention than actually seeking advice.
fedup  
29 Aug 2012 /  #54
Living in Poland may sound romantic but it's not. For example...right now it is nearly 1am on Wednesday and for teh last 3 hours I have had to listen to drunken idiots singing stupid songs in a party in the block across from mine. Even with the windows closed it is loud. People here have no regard for their neighbors, no idea of what quality means in making things or in service, and generally have a massive ego problem and complex where they like to tell everyone how smart they are and how much better Poland is than everyone else.

BTW I have called the police and they don't care...like anyone else in Poland. Apathy is the national sport.
f stop  24 | 2493  
29 Aug 2012 /  #56
I truly hate that attitude, "if you don't like it, leave". You should know better, delph. It implies that we are not supposed to point out anything that is broken around us.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
29 Aug 2012 /  #57
How is anything going to get better if the squeaky wheel never squeaks?
fedup  
29 Aug 2012 /  #58
Yeah the "If you don't like it leave" attitude is pretty childish. I made commitments which I will honor...unlike most Poles who never show up on time, never call when they say they will or do what they say they will do. Even other Poles say this about each other so it's not just some angry outsider's view. I will be happy when my time here is finished.
PlasticPole  7 | 2641  
29 Aug 2012 /  #59
Yeah the "If you don't like it leave" attitude is pretty childish

It's pure arrogance. I hear it all the time where I live. If you complain about anything their response is "if you don't like it there's the door." So annoying!
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
29 Aug 2012 /  #60
I truly hate that attitude, "if you don't like it, leave". You should know better, delph. It implies that we are not supposed to point out anything that is broken around us.

The problem comes when someone is so thoroughly alienated by their host country that they despise everything in it and can't see beyond their hatred. If they've gone so far, the best thing to do is leave.

How is anything going to get better if the squeaky wheel never squeaks?

Anyone who knows Poles knows that they have to squeak themselves, rather than outsiders.

Yeah the "If you don't like it leave" attitude is pretty childish. I made commitments which I will honor...unlike most Poles who never show up on time, never call when they say they will or do what they say they will do. Even other Poles say this about each other so it's not just some angry outsider's view. I will be happy when my time here is finished.

Your use of "honor" gives the game away. Why is it that it seems to be mostly Americans that bitterly complain about how terrible Poland is? Are they really incapable of taking a trip to some of the beautiful things Poland has, or simply going to the airport?

I fail to see why anyone would hang around if the country is truly so terrible. Oh wait, it's a woman keeping you here, isn't it? :)

Incidentally, people don't do this stuff to me. Perhaps it's because I don't have a superiority complex?

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