Marriage laws: dual citizenship (Polish and US) preparing to get married to an American.

Hello I am an Amercian man living in the Untied States and i want to get married to my girlfriend who lives in Plonad. If we get married in Poland would that be better or should she come here to marry? Thanks

You don't have to if you don't want to. However you can legalize you marriage in Poland, too.

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They will have polish citizenship. A child of parents of which one is a Polish citizen, while the other is a citizen of another state, acquires Polish citizenship by birth. However the parents may, in a declaration made in conformity before the proper authority within the course of three months from the day of the birth of the child, choose for the child the citizenship of the foreign state of which one of the parents is a citizen, if according to the law of that state the child acquires its citizenship.

"Hi, well miss Krysia i appreciate answering my question..
i am not european or american. i fell in love with a polish student in Germany as we were studing together and we are planning to get married, but i am not planning to go to Poland. so will i be eligible for the polish citizenship after 3 years of marriage although not settling in Poland? another question: directly after marriage will i be able to move among european countries (schengen) without visa with or without my wife?

thanks for your time"

Yes, I'd like to know the answer to that question too. I'm a North American citizen who may be interested in marrying a Polish woman. Does marriage after 3 years plus the paperwork automatically qualify me for a Polish passport? If so, can I work in the EU without ever having set foot in Poland? And...which of these countries are Polish Citizens eligible to work & reside in? Which countries are they NOT eligible to work & reside in? Will there be more countries where Polish citizens will be able to work in the EU in the near future? THX.

No, you will not. First you have to live in Poland for certain number of years to be able to apply for Polish citizenship


No. Marriage does not give you any priviliges. If EU requires you to have a visa, you have to have it.


No. It is similar to GreenCard process. To get Polish passport you have to be polish citizen. To be polish citizen you have to live in Poland on permanent residency card for xx years.


No, you can't. You are US citizen and you can stay as a tourist for 90 days in UE without a visa. After that you have to apply for a visa or apply for residency card in Poland if you stay in Poland,

hi everyone, especially Reid

i am indian living in ireland from last 4 years, having a polish girl friend. we have been together 1 year now. polish girls are very nice girls as first i can say. anyway, i just reading about this forum today because i have some couple of querries in my mind always blinking time to time. if i marry my girl friend in future, what i have to do with EU marriage law..like should i have to go poland live there for couple year to get permenant residency/ citizenship/ passport..etc.. or once i marry my girl i will get all of these list of things which i am free in poland. its bit complicated isn't it.

can anyone answer my questions please...

all the best for who is getting married soon..

take care..

dzien dobre, jak sie masz, and also some bad words....hehe

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Hi Good people(important)

Please could someone let me know if it is possible for a foreigner to wed a foreigner in Poland.

I hope I get cool response soon

hi my name is Murilo and i have a question. Im married with a polish woman for 2 years , and i want to apply for polish citizenship, but we live in the united States. Does Polish law permit that i became a citizen?

No, it does not. You have to live in Poland for 5 (?) years as resident to be able to apply for citizenship.
It is very similar to green card and citizenship in the US.

Hello everyone. I will try to revive this thread as I need some advice and hope that maybe someone here might be able to help me. I will appreciate every single reply.

I am a Polish girl, who travels frequently to the USA (on av. twice a year). Sometimes on business, sometimes for pleasure. I have a valid tourist visa, speak very good English, and never had any problems with immigration, though I do not take it for granted.

I plan to move to US this year and marry an American. I've been told several times in the past that there's no use playing with the fiance visa. The easiest way is to just come to the States on my tourist visa and get married. I read up and know that I should have my birth certificate with me, divorce statement (no kids) and valid passport/visa.

Now, my questions.

1. Do I need to have the documents translated into English by a court interpretor? (and if so, should I do it in Poland, or would it be better to do in US?)

2. Will I need the documents confirmed by the Polish Embassy? And if so, do you know how it works, would I have to do it in person or does sending by a courier works?

3. Can they deny marrying us for any reasons (provided I have all the above mentioned documents)?
4. I realize applying for green card and residency (later on) requires time, patience, money and knowledge. But I also know a call to USCIS is always helpful. But, if my boyfriend is a US citizen and can prove the ability to support us both, do you know how long (on average) it would take to process my petition for immigrant visa (I-130)? Because I understand the visa number will be available immediately after the petition is processed..

5. And will that allow me to work legally, or will I still have to change for the adjustment of my status to the lawful resident?

(I must agree the laws, regulations etc. are a bit complicated.. :)

Once again, I will appreciate all responses, advice, links, etc.

Kasia

I know this is not an answer to your detailed questions but a bit of advice...DO NOT tell immigration or any US official you are planning to marry if you do decide to enter on a tourist visa to do this.

While yeah it is easier and many people do it, technically it is not allowed and all it takes is one jerk immigration officer who is in a bad mood to deny you entry (which they can do without giving you any reason).

Just go over like you normally do for a visit or holiday and don't mention a thing about marriage.

Thank you Jones for the reply. I am aware of limiting my chances if I mentioned the purpose of my coming to US...
I understand immigrants might cause problems in US, though it's rather the fault of the law, not the people. It is just sad how two people in love have to go through a bit of a hell to be together.. just because they happen to come from two different countries..

Still, my questions remain valid and for the sake of my peace of mind, I hope someone can answer them. :),

Agreed...my fiancee and I are trying to decide where to get married. Here in PL it is stupidly bureaucratic yet her family is here and could not all go to the US with us where it would be MUCH easier to marry.

I refrained from answering your questions because all I have at this point is conjecture. Depending on who you talk to you get different answers.

What I do know is this:

Marriage in the USA is done on the State/County level. Some States/Counties require a marriage license some do not. Sometimes it is as simple as paying a fee for the paper...others it requires a blood test and more paperwork. At worst it seems to take a week to get all the bits in order...at best you can be married in less than a day. To my knowledge you cannot be "denied" marriage unless you are already married and even then how would they know? (not advocating that just saying there is no way a state or county is going to be able to confirm your status in Poland) I don't think you even need to prove your immigration status.

US Immigration is going to be utterly unhelpful and contradictory if you contact them that is why there are loads of firms that help people through the legal hurdles (for a nice fee of course)

The US may be as hard or worse than Poland to get residency/legal in...the difference is in the US you wont have to stand in the cold for hours and pay people bribes to get it done. You can do it from the comfort of a nicee waiting room or the phone :) Isn't progress great ;)

I must say I have also faced almost as many points of view as people I talked to about it.
However, it was the call to USCIS that finally resolved some issues. Someone over there asked nicely: does your g/f have a valid tourist visa? - yes - Ok, then, why won't she just come over here as a tourist and you two get married and then petition for immigrant visa and adjustment of status? Lawyers are expensive and are helpful when one of the partners has no chance of getting a legal visa.

So we know our way of doing this now. The only thing that worries me really is what's 'after'.. I want to have a normal life, work, be able to travel freely, and have no idea how long it would take for us to have it granted.. plus, I hope they won't make me go back home to wait for their decision. I never saw them mention that on USCIS site..

I wasn't aware that getting married here would be more difficult. This is new for me. :)
But good luck to you. Hard as it is, I'm sure it's always worth it. :)

OH hell yeah...marriage in Poland takes at least 3-6 months of nonsense.

There are other posts with details but basically Poland requires an embassy letter saying you are free to marry. The US doesn't give these so they DO give you a letter saying they DON"T give such a letter...and rather than just accepting this Poland makes you go to court to acknowledge the letter that says there is no letter.(this can take a couple months) THEN you take the courts 'permission' and register to marry. (this can take another couple months). Once you get permission you then have to make an appointment to be legally married (so forget picking a special day unless you plan a year ahead of time).

It's like most things in Poland...layered in nonsense and fees.

Go to Las Vegas and you can marry in a drive through in 5 minutes with only ID and it IS legal.

hi :) im a US citizen planning on marrying a Polish citizen. I have been going back and forth to PL for a year now....waiting to do the papers. Does anyone know if its better for him to come here? If so how does he obtain a visa? If not...where do we go to file the docs? thanks for any help..:)

btw... PL natives <u have impressed me, with your humble kindness. thank you>

Kasia - You must have not talked to USCIS, or talked to a real poorly educated person. They gave you fraudlent advice to say the least. Entering the US on your tourist visa with intent to marry & stay is FRAUD. You'll stay & file AOS (adjustment of status) to get your green card, and that's when all your problems will start. You'll have to show how you didn't intend on staying here, which is impossible. You'll be denied at AOS interview.

You have 2 options, let your boyfriend do the fiance I-129F fiance visa (takes 6-9months) and get you here legally to marry within 90 days of your arrival. Or marry in Poland and enter on a K3 visa.

This process is not expensive with lawyer fees. I did the whole thing for my fiance... now husband with no lawyers at all. I asked que at visajourney its a free site with people in similar situations.


Same situation as Kasia - file the I-129F fiance visa 6-9 months and you can marry in the US. Good luck!

Hi,
Quite interesting forum to ask questions.....but my own point of view is that is it possible after having an issue with a polish girl to later settle for marriage at the detriments of their parents?,and what are the pro and coin involved.Thanks for your response.D-man.

hi krysia. i think you are helping a lot of people with your knowledge of all this bureaucratic stuff - which is really good cuz not a lot of polish employees in the embassies/consulate have the time to explain everything to you in english - they couldn't be bothered. really.

anyhow, can you recommend a website (english) where i could get information on the documents required to get married in poland (civil ceremony only). i am currently a student in the uk and my fiance is polish. yes, i am a non-eea national.

thanks so much for your time. happy 2009!

hi, i have mauritian nationality and i going to married a polish girl what polish law says about my status...we got merried in the ireland i am on student visa in here from last two years..

i will be glade if u give answer of my questions..thanks

from mayur

i am not european or ireland. i fell in love with a polish gril in ireland and we are planning to get married, but i am planning to go to Poland. so will i be eligible for the polish citizenship after 2 years of marriage in Poland? another question: directly after marriage will i be able to move among european countries (schengen) without visa with or without my wife? bcz want to stay in poland with her.........

thanks from mayur

No. You have to be here five years before you can apply for permission to settle. When you have permission to settle you can apply for a Polish passport (if you want one). You are probably looking at a minimum of six years before you actually have a Polish passport in your hands.


I have no idea about that, assuming you are talking about moving as a tourist. If you are talking about residing (living) in an EU country other than Poland, you can do that (i.e. get a residency permit) but it will be tied to your wife: if she leaves that country you will have to as well. Unfortunately you will find it much harder to get a work permit for any EU country other than Poland (you need both residency and work permits for any EU country other than Poland).

Hi there.
My husband is a US citizen and I have Polish citizenship as well as a US greencard. We are considering moving to Poland for a few years.

What is the cost of him applying for Polish citizenship? Is it a complicated process?

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Hello Everyone,
My Polish girlfriend and I have just become engaged. I am a US citizen, has anyone here been through this before? Is it easier to get married in the US or Poland? Are there any resources out there to help us?

Thank you very much,
Popems

It's easier and less complicated to marry in the US.
This depends where she is and where you are. If you both are in the US, get married here. If you are in Poland, then the process will take at least 2 months because first you need an OK from the Polish courts to marry a Polish citizen, which takes about a month, then you have to set a date, another month, then if you want to go to the US, she won't be able to go with you because you have to file a spousal immigration visa which is another 9 months or so.

I am living in the US, she lives in Poland, and I am going to be moving to Poland in a few months. Does this make any sort of difference?

Hi Kasia, You can get married in the States on your tourist visa. But you will have a few options after that: you can apply for adjustment of status while in the States (which is technically illegal and you will have to hire an attorney), you can apply for the K-3 visa or CR-1 visa while you are outside of the States (which is totally legal, you can do the paperwork yourself). My husband (the Polish citizen, UK resident) just got married last week and after many consultations with lawyers we're going route number 2, the legal way. it's cheaper! check out visajourney.com for more detailed help. Cheers!

Under EU treaties spouses of EU citizens (ie spouses of polish citizens) have the right to reside and work in any member state of the EU.

hi, i am a jordanian man and l have get married to polish woman in poland , now we are married for about 1.5 years .since 10 years befor the marrige i was geting my visa from eu countries easily because of my busniss and l have a company in jordan ,but after marrige my wife said you must get polish residence card . i did all the papers and waited for 5.5 monthes to get the card which was for one year in thies monthes l couldnt do any thing or even travel to do any busniss . now my card has finished from 2 monthes and they told me you will not get a new one because your marrige is ok and your paper are ok but you didnt do any company in poland and you are traveling in the eu countries for 3 weeks . they gave me now a visa only for poland and for one entery , i have asked a lower if i can go to jordan and see my company and come back ,he said no if you go you will never enter poland or the eu countries at all . now i have to choose (my wife or my company and my work).is thier any humanrights in this .

Do you like living in Poland better than living in Amman?

What is the tradition regarding a polish woman taking on the mans first name as their last name.

EG: Ben Mark Schmidt...wife to be becomes Roselyn Maria Ben (instead) of schmidt.

Is this true...I was told it was the custom. Sounds just not quite right.

If anyone could answer this for me I would appreciate it. Thanks.

good day! hi im from philippines student studying in UK and got a boyfriend from poland who is working here,He have plan to marry me here in Uk anyway.Is it possible for a student visa holder marry here in UK now that poland is part of EU? although i have about 1 year and 6 months left on my student visa can he marry me before my visa expires?

another question:If we got married and my visa expired should i go back to the philippines and apply for any visa going to poland and what would that be? or can we go directly to poland..thank you and more power,,,NASDROVIA...