Polish man's visit a nightmare - Welcome To Canada

I agree. I must admit that Canada doesnt have alot of 'content' when it comes to movies. We would be watching repeats really fast without the American shows.

Since I am interested in sports I also realize they hardly show central or east Europe sports on tv.
Sometimes they will be showing POKER AND DARTS instead of more real sports like Football (soccer).


That would be like a slap in the face to some Canadians.
I know here in Ontario they teach French but in British Colombia I dont think its mandatory (correct me if I am wrong).
I was never too good at learning how to write in different languages including French. Reading and talking is probably easier.

I agree with you.I/m Polish living in Poland.After Dziekanski was murdered we know what scum....s are Canadian.We don't like you & better do not come to my country

Yes, Canada as a collective was responsible for Robert Dzienkanski's death. Just like Poland as a whole was responsible for Roman Polanski.

?? bit of an exaggeration is it not? If you think it so asinine , why do you tune in? Hey sometimes I think it's stupid too, so I don't watch as much. At least there is variety in the US though.

I wouldnt worry about legends criteque of American TV (seeing as most of the best stuff is made in Canada anyway...) as someone who isnt even a native of Canada who hates everything about the place but still doesnt move home to wonderfull Polska is obviously a couple of cans short of a 6 pack.....

and lols at making french the national language for all of Canada....get over it froggies, you lost in the 1750s FFS, enough already with you thinking you have some moral superiority over anglo canadians,all your ancestors did was invade and colonise the indians lands a few years before the english got there.....

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If he was Polish the outcome would have been entirely different I can guarantee you that but the simple fact that he’s of Jewish origin born in France gained him the support and sympathy in some circles and a overseas shelter, where? We all know. Go fish, nice try but no cigar.

As for what happened in this case, a tit for tat is the best policy IMO, we should declare an open season on north Americans’ in general as Canadians are not the only ones lacking common sense and be done with it. Those are not isolated incidents but rather seem to be a policy.

How would that mete out justice to the people who actually did this to the Polish tourist? Isn't that just punishing others for crimes of their country men?

It’s not about justice nor is it about revenge or taking a higher normal stand. Why do you seek rationalization for my proposal? In cases like this one there’s none, neither am I pretending to have one in my proposal. What I have proposed would strictly be a random act on an equal basis so nothing personal either but it sure as hell this kind of behavior would generate public outrage in no time at all as the reality would finally hit home; what happen to such and such is most likely happen to me as well. No longer a case of no skin off of my nose, perhaps then a debate would fallow as you would read more and more about your own citizens being detained for no reason, feel discriminated against or violated, after all we live in an information age and any confusion there might be can be resolved within hours not days or weeks.

When the subject is up front and personal government officials have no choice but to listen to the public instead of excusing it as a necessary evil “ incidents like that happen to one in ten thousand (or whatever figure they wish to throw at you) of the flying public”, “the procedures ware fallowed” “It’s for your own safety” etc. It’s all BS. Being on everyone’s mind as media hype grows it’s no longer to be ignored. When the dust finally settles perhaps the cooler heads would prevail and either reform the system or take a closer look at those that abuse their power and privilege in a clear cut case as this one instead of covering up for them stating “they were simply doing their job”.

As it stands; no one gives a flying f**, those that do this are simply being protected as it reflects badly on their supervisors and the government that employs them hence they excuse their behavior “simply doing their job” my ass, meanwhile an innocent suffer needlessly. This should neither happen nor be tolerated or ignored. No one wants to admit wrongdoing but when your own citizens are being mistreated it quickly draws the attention of the media and the public in turn puts the pressure on the authority to do something about it. Point is this sort of thing should not happen period so there’s no need for you to be sarcastic. What you’re doing in reality you encore this sort of behavior by not voicing your discourse, so that high moral stand on your part don’t work on me either.

what would be the moral stand in holding someone else accountable for the actions of another, actions that in no way shape or form those you would punish had anything to do with?

while i agree with your sentiments on the subject as a whole, I think you have terribly miscalculated on your proposed solution

It gets really pathetic having to listen to Polish people whine and complain how they are treated abroad when, in fact, they do the same thing in Poland. Do you think border security is friendly with the plane of Russians or Vietnamese? Seriously. I was at Okiecie when a French man got dragged through the mud- I know how he was treated because I was translating from French to Polish for the guards.

I have also had to go through an inspection because I didn't have a document from my husband saying I was allowed to travel without him with my kids. In Canada it is now necessary to have notarized permission from your spouse- I didn't know this law was passed because I had been living in Poland when it was made.

All this crap, unfortunately, is necessary. The guy was detained for a day. Too bad. If it ultimately prevents a criminal from entering or leaving the country- then it is all for the greater good.

And then there was the time we crossed the border into the U.S. with our Polish friends who had visas. They had their photos taken and fingerprints but yet they had a tourist visa. All this just to drive to Oregon.

get back funky cat, that is a load of horsesh*t

It is punishing others for the crime of their countrymen,no doubt about it.It is also not fair BUT it seems to be the only way to influence Canadians to put pressure on their government.I mean this man was held for 10 days because he had some baby clothes in his luggage!Don't you find it outrageous?I do.F u c k Canada and f u c k Canadians.I will never go to the f u c k i n g country of Canada and given an opportunity I will pay back random Canadians for mistreatment of my countrymen.I will.

no way. Like I said previously, border guards are on a power trip. They are under educated with loads of power. It is the same in every country. They have no people skills. That is what needs an overhaul. I have taken the Lot flight to Toronto. I have gone through security --Polish people will get searched- particularly Babcia's because they always have the sausage in their bags.

I imagine this guy was busting at the seams full of stuff so they detained him- the guards know what is coming on the Lot flight from Warsaw.

I wish you were right but the truth of the matter is the police killed quite a few Canadian citizens the same year they murdered Robert. D. Canadians are getting treated badly by their own police at home, beating up others abroad would in no way correct the situation.

Play out the dynamics in your head.
Beat up some Canadians in Poland in the hopes that Canadians in Canada will force their border Police to stop being such power tripping c*nts.....(please fill in what would materialize to bring about the conclusion)..........and the border guards decide to be more humane to their fellow humans.


well maybe if we all wore collars and only left our homes or places of work after receiving permission from some central "authority" in the hopes it would keep out criminals or deter criminals then that would be for the greater good too, seriously where do you draw the line? More laws are the problem, not the solution.

well, they just denied Russell Brand entry- I can't decide if this is good or bad. But you are right they are all a bunch of a-holes.

Imagine what you want but unless you have something concrete it is a sad departure on a slippery slope you're going. You may be right but you could just as well be wrong.

I don't like them denying anyone entry if they haven't been convicted of crime or are being investigated in a crime. It's another bad precedent. It's also a sorry sign when that jerk off manages to make it big time by being a jacka**

How dare people generalize about Canadians being a**holes! After all, we're not Americans!
Is that what you're saying????

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who on earth is russell brand??

Don't worry 'bout it . You haven't missed anything.

Russell Brand is an English fellow- married to Katy Perry. He is a comedian, actor? something.

I do think that Canada is becoming too American.
How dare people generalize about Canadians being a**holes! After all, we're not Americans!
Is that what you're saying????

I think that Canada has had so much influx of the American way of life- t.v., media, foods, etc- that the line has become foggy as to what is Canadian culture and what is American. Yes, Canadians are proud of their heritage- I am a proud Canadian, however- I don't think the average person realizes what is going on. How many Canadians would rather watch or listen to Fox news as compared to the CBC. The CBC has amazing content and its thought provoking yet it is not popular.

Last week I was sick to my stomach when I read a story how this many from Winnipeg called up a news station and was ranting and raving about the 3 n-words on the Jets team. Sorry, what? that is unacceptable. That is not a Canadian word. When did it become ok to say this word in Canada---we have been bombarded with American isms and people that still use this word- not my country.

There was also a hockey game in London On last week and some piece of trash loser through a banana on the ice when a black player was going for a break away. Sorry, what the eff is that?

We have always been a country that had pride for not being American. Now we are becoming just like them---and probably don't even realize it.

Having spent 4 months in Canada (Montreal) in 1987 probably is not long enough to qualify for a detailed opinion, but I do have very fond memories of what I saw at the time and of the people I met. One of the overriding memories was that the country was the ideal compromise between the European and American ways of life.. I hope you don't lose this specificity.

seriously, me too. I am quite proud to come from Canada. I am proud that I come from a bilingual city. I think overall we treat people with respect and give people a safety net to fall back on. What I don't like is having so much American influence on the daily life there. I don't like that Canadians are modeling the unacceptable American behaviour of me me me and the likes of Jersey shore. Because in my world it is never acceptable to use derogatory words based on gender, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation. When did this become ok in Canada?

Canada is the Beachcombers, Degrassi, Hockey Night in Canada, DaVinci's inquest, Anne of Green Gables and a bunch of other stuff ---Jersey Shore is not acceptable--we are way better than that.

Russel Brand is married to Katy Perry? I suppose theyre are fairly well suited. Brand is a funny guy
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I started going back home for about 3-4 months every year about 4 years ago- the place and the people are changing.

I started going back home for about 3-4 months every year about 4 years ago- the place and the people are changing.

I have no problem with immigrants coming to Canada- that is not what I am talking about by any means. I like multi-culturalism. What I am talking about is the sense of entitlement that Americans have, because they are American. Canadians didn't have this- it is changing and not for the better. Too much American influence on our country is taking its toll.

Do you speak both languages?

pip can speak French well though she has a bad lisp in it - is sounds much like a mixture of Spanish and German when she speaks it ;)

how did you know??

Actually, I used to speak both languages. Because I have lived in Warsaw for nine years I have to say with huge embarrassment that I have forgotten how to use it,,or rather Polish is now stronger. I can read French and if I were to go to Quebec or France for a month it would probably come back. A case of use it or lose it.

What is actually quite funny is that there is a Spanish lady who lives close to my store and I see her with her child quite frequently. She speaks French to me and I return the conversation with a mix of French and Polish. It does my head in.

Can you please explain? Not being North American, the only thing Jersey Shore evokes for me is the US North East coastline.. You must be referring to something else..