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Emigrate from the USA - the sequence of events


pip  10 | 1658  
29 Oct 2012 /  #151
for every person you find who wants to live in the states you will find an equal number of those who want to return to Poland. big surprise and proves nothing.
Lenka  5 | 3535  
29 Oct 2012 /  #152
f stop: I know of two different couples, friends of the family, that went back to Poland for retirement, and both came back to US within few years.

I know a lady who went back to Poland after over thirty years in the US and now she's crying and wants to go back to the States.

My uncle (Germany) also wanted to retire to Poland but he though about it and decided to stay in G.Most ppl want to come back because of sentimental reasons but forget that during their emigration many things changed,ppl got married,had kids and even died.No-one will stop their lives just for them.So when they come back after many years they find out that it's not the country they have left.
4 eigner  2 | 816  
29 Oct 2012 /  #153
So when they come back after many years they find out that it's not the country they have left

very realistic statement
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Oct 2012 /  #154
(as you even said, you always would because you hate to agree with people) and that's why you call it a bs.

More BS, i dont always disagree with people at all, there you go again putting words into people mouths. Ive noticed some common written errors in your wording, common Polish errors actually. Where were you born? youre an immigrant are you?

I know an American with a polish wife who lives 6 months in Poland and 6 months in Florida, i think thats the best idea - if you can afford it.
pgtx  29 | 3094  
29 Oct 2012 /  #155
I know an American with a polish wife who lives 6 months in Poland and 6 months in Florida, i think thats the best idea - if you can afford it.

that's as for them to keep their green cards, maybe?

WB and 4eigner, please get back to the topic.
4 eigner  2 | 816  
29 Oct 2012 /  #156
More BS,

do you really want me to find what you said and post it again?

Ive noticed some common written errors in your wording, common Polish errors actually. Where were you born? youre an immigrant are you?

and I've noticed that anytime someone makes you feel uncomfortable, you come back with the same ole bs about "common written errors, Polish errors actually".

You act like a child, grow up! I'm gonna put you on my ignore list from now on as you're nothing but a waste of time. You'll never change (I guess you can't due to your, self admitted, mental condition).
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Oct 2012 /  #157
I guess you can't due to your, self admitted, mental condition

All of a sudden its escalated to a mental condition now, in your own mind of course.

and I've noticed that anytime someone makes you feel uncomfortable, you come back with the same ole bs about "common written errors, Polish errors actually".

where? proof please - immigrant. You need to show proof to back up your wild accusations - immigrant.

Take note, Meathead, one can't spend more money than one has.

No theres no such thing as speculate to accumilate in the form of loans is there, businesses never borrow in order to grow do they, do you think that the US may have needed to borrow to promote growth? Do ya think?
p3undone  7 | 1098  
29 Oct 2012 /  #158
WroclawBoy,like the banks?
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Oct 2012 /  #159
no

on second thoughts maybe banks, why not? they virtually have a license to go bankrupt. Guaranteed goverment bail outs.
p3undone  7 | 1098  
29 Oct 2012 /  #160
WB,that certainly worked out great!
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Oct 2012 /  #161
hat certainly worked out great!

the alternative would have been catastrophic.
p3undone  7 | 1098  
29 Oct 2012 /  #162
WroclawBoy,I agree there really was no alternative,but why didn't he try to exercise some control as he did with the auto companies in terms of accepting the dole.Why were the banks never held accountable either.Someone asked on this thread who makes the decisions in this country;there you have it
Meathead  5 | 467  
30 Oct 2012 /  #163
Take note, Meathead, one can't spend more money than one has. Spending more money in our case, means printing more money and that means devaluing our currency and that again, leads to the huge economical collapse by the end of the road. This is absolutely not a way to go!!!

All the money that America has is the result of the print shop. Whenever we need more money, we print it up. There is nothing wrong with a devalued currency. The less our currency is worth the more imports cost and the less our exports cost. DEVALUED CURRENCY = LESS IMPORTS MORE EXPORTS. Good for the economy. That's how China did it, they artificially kept their currency low vs the dollar.

WroclawBoy,I agree there really was no alternative,but why didn't he try to exercise some control as he did with the auto companies in terms of accepting the dole.Why were the banks never held accountable either.Someone asked on this thread who makes the decisions in this country;there you have it

Bush did the Bank bailout, not Obama. All the money given to the Banks has been returned with interest.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
30 Oct 2012 /  #164
Someone asked on this thread who makes the decisions in this country;there you have it

Seriously, what do you expect in the age of corporate personhood?
p3undone  7 | 1098  
30 Oct 2012 /  #165
TheOther,I expect no different.It's been like this for many years now.
4 eigner  2 | 816  
30 Oct 2012 /  #166
All the money that America has is the result of the print shop. Whenever we need more money, we print it up. There is nothing wrong with a devalued currency. The less our currency is worth the more imports cost and the less our exports cost. DEVALUED CURRENCY = LESS IMPORTS MORE EXPORTS. Good for the economy.

sorry man, you're wrong. Google it out if you need help to understand how it works. Printing money in excess is never good. I realize, you're a big Obama supporter but if you knew how economy works, you wouldn't vote for him either.
warszawianka  - | 31  
30 Oct 2012 /  #167
I know a lady who went back to Poland after over thirty years in the US and now she's crying

I totally agree. I hear lots of people say this. I can see why as I have tried to have a few dealings over there about business matters. It's like trying to saddle a cow.
4 eigner  2 | 816  
30 Oct 2012 /  #168
It's like trying to saddle a cow.

exactly :-)
p3undone  7 | 1098  
30 Oct 2012 /  #169
Meathead,Yes Bush did as well,but Obama gave them a second round if you remember correctly.The banks were included in his stimulus package.He basically bought up their bad loans.Same thing.He never held the banks accountable either nor did he try to exert control like he did with GM.
Meathead  5 | 467  
30 Oct 2012 /  #170
sorry man, you're wrong. Google it out if you need help to understand how it works. Printing money in excess is never good. I realize, you're a big Obama supporter but if you knew how economy works, you wouldn't vote for him either.

Google it? You mean like this:

seekingalpha.com/article/232339-why-deficit-spending-is-a-good-thing-until-it-becomes-inflationary
4 eigner  2 | 816  
30 Oct 2012 /  #171
LOL man thanks for helping me

"Until It Becomes Inflationary" and this is exactly the direction Obama is going to

also read this

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

"Hyperinflation results from a rapid and continuing increase in the supply of money, which occurs when a government prints money or creates credits in bank accounts, instead of collecting taxes to fund government activities"
peterweg  37 | 2305  
30 Oct 2012 /  #172
Where were you born? youre an immigrant are you?

He is not in any way Polish, but what is your definition of immigrant???
Wroclaw Boy  
30 Oct 2012 /  #173
He is not in any way Polish

Hes Polish alright, but the worst kind of immigrant - hes embarrassed to be Polish. Ive witnessed this a few time before especially with Pol-ams, they're so quick to swear allegiance to the US and forget where they came from.

Ironically they also have huge mouths when it comes to things like presidential elections.
Meathead  5 | 467  
31 Oct 2012 /  #174
"Hyperinflation results from a rapid and continuing increase in the supply of money, which occurs when a government prints money or creates credits in bank accounts, instead of collecting taxes to fund government activities"

Where is this hyperinflation? We have deflation right now, not inflation. That's the whole point. You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.
p3undone  7 | 1098  
31 Oct 2012 /  #175
Meathead,I don't know where you live,but food prices have steadily climbed here in Boston.I haven't seen any prices going down on anything.I have seen prices go up though.
4 eigner  2 | 816  
31 Oct 2012 /  #176
Where is this hyperinflation?

read again what I said. I said "this is exactly the direction Obama is going to" , I never said, we're already in it.

You're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

no, I'm opposing his policy because I don't want this to happen.
Lyzko  
31 Oct 2012 /  #177
The "direction" in which Obama is headed, is the keep GOOD-paying jobs in the US, where they belong, NOT outsource them to cheaper-paying markets, i.e. China or India, where they don't!!!

The choice is clear; a vote for Romney is like shooting oneself in both feet!

In addition, it's odd, isn't it that Governor Romney has been so silent during Sandy!! Our President on the other hand, has been front and center the whole time:-))

Kind of reminds you of Katrina, doesn't it? During that (avoidable!!!) disaster, those affected were poor African-Americans, mostly. Help took days to get to 'em. During a monster flood in the Midwest sometime earlier (mostly white farmers), help arrived in no time!!

Makes ya wonder now, doesn't it??
warszawianka  - | 31  
1 Nov 2012 /  #178
The "direction" in which Obama is headed, is the keep GOOD-paying jobs in the US,

I don't believe that to be a totally accurate consideration of what's really going on. The way Obama is headed is to keep good paying jobs not so good paying, by allowing artificial deflation of the labor market in general. this happened by overlooking the enforcement of things put in place to look out for the american worker. Also, just because an office does not actually physically move overseas means nothing. The majority of IT contract positions that are non-permanent workers are subcontracted out to offshore agencies working with US agents as a corp-to-corp relationship. And these agents routinely hire non-permanent workers on that basis who then infiltrate this country after their visas were falsely sponsored. And they are from all over the mid- and far-east. They go in trainloads up to NYC every day and probably elsewhere (except I can't confirm that as I live outside NY within commutable distance).

also, FYI at one time work visa programs in general were enforced to their original meaning: in order to bring exceptional talent and innovative methodology to the labor force to promote domestic business prosperity. Now, any company who won't find a worker to work for $10 an hour for a job that private industry pays $80K a year (and that's a starting salary for a tech junior position), the agency petitions for H1B and brings in a foreign worker. So let's see, how is that looking out for Americans? It merely compounds the fact that labor agencies make out, the benefits of job growth are not passed on to the worker, the agents are like pimps and make out, while they inflate write-offs against profit. The "worker" gets the crumbs. And it happens day in and day out . . . and no place to enforce it and no way to report it and have the companies who are breaking the laws fined. I can name on the fingers of both hands now, companies I know personally who have broken the contingent worker laws to start. So it benefits no worker and only the fat cat corporate principals.

With that said, how is it that Obama is looking out for the country and its workforce, again? then the POTUS made the statement a short while ago that the tax benefit for taking a company overseas will no longer be tolerated. In fact there is no U.S. tax benefit nor write-off for taking a company overseas. So therefore he revoked a tax benefit that wasn't even in force. And only one media outlet that I can think of actually represented it accurately. This guy is truthfully not qualified to make economic decisions for a hot dog stand let alone a country. Just sayin'. . .

Our President on the other hand, has been front and center the whole time

Oh and also, Obama was asked by gov C. Christie to come to NJ to witness the devastation first-hand. And now that people are going to judge his actions before election on how he handles disasters and areas in need, he came to showboat around the state, to show his concern. Guess what: Obama probably wins NJ so he didn't need to come here. NJ is in the bag for him; and it is good he is wasting his time here instead of on the campaign trail. Also Obama team was critial when Romney went to states that were clearly blue, without a chance of being swing states. So if one would ask me, it was a brilliant calculation on the part of Christie, who has been all-out for Romney. why didn't obama go to the flooding in Tennessee or when Texas was burning? Because it wasn't polling week?
4 eigner  2 | 816  
1 Nov 2012 /  #179
The choice is clear; a vote for Romney is like shooting oneself in both feet!

Oh my. I'm not gonna waste my time, posting the same list of Obama's failures again and again, it won't help anyway. It just happens to be that you guys in Europe like Obama more than most us here in the States. Thank God, you guys can't vote because he would stay in the office for freaking ever (if that was possible, of course). The worst that can happen for America is his reelection.

Amen.
warszawianka  - | 31  
1 Nov 2012 /  #180
his reelection.Amen.

I am going to pray extra fervently for the next 6 days to be delivered from evil on Nov. 6 : )

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