Dual citizenship - US doesn't care if you don't give up Polish passport

Sorry PennBoy, but I think that, when you say it this way, intelligence has less to do with it than trustworthyness.

It's like saying "whatever I say or promise, don't count on it".

Dubious statement, I'm sorry to say.

I imagine that his allegiance will change according to the prevailing wind.

"Yes sir, you have been drafted to go fight in the jungle against those towel heads" "IM POLISH"
"Yes sir, you have been drafted to fight against some Ukrainian insurgency in the mountains" "IM AMERICAN"

Treasonous as ****.

What loyal ?
Becoming an American Citizen doesn't erase your previous loyalties and ties, that one is obvious.
For a Pole taking an oath is not distressing because he believes that interests of Poland and U.S. are compatible, or not contradictory.


You really have a boring live delp ! Do you really live in Poland? where about ?

Actually, the bit where a would-be US citizen says "I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;" very much does erase your previous loyalities.


Poznan. I know offline somebody who knows Delph offline.


So you mean to say that you are not a traitor and your excuse for not being one is that you are not intelligent enough to be be one. Interesting.

So, explain to me how does it works ?You have an lifetime as a Pole and then you are granted citizenship of U.S., well you says an oath, you may even mean it, but it doesn't change the way you think, not for a most of peeps!

Are you saying that after an oath you are brainwashed?
Anyway there is seldom a issue which would test loyalties of a Pole- American Citizen!

It means that you have absolutely and entirely renounced and abjured all allegiance and fidelity to Poland, i.e. exactly what it says.


Apart from the 44 years quite recently when Poland and the USA were on opposite sides in a cold war....

I don't think the possibility of US and Poland in armed conflict is eminent. But, to some people, their word is still one of the most valuable asset they have, and swearing an oath like that should give them some food for thought.

imminent, dammit

I have dual citizenship and I am loyal to both countries. The only time that it might be an issue is if one country declares war on another, which then involves other countries. Like the 1st or 2nd world war or what is happening in the middle east. Then having citizenship from a country like that might cause you issues.

There are plenty of people in the U.S. and elsewhere that have dual and be loyal to the country they live in without having to give up their citizenship from the country of their birth.

so, do you want to be American or not? if you want to stay aligned to PL then you may stay as Polish citizen.. this isn't really all that hard of a decision..

That oath does bother me a bit. I'm no fool, if the advantages far outweigh the cons, I'll be lining up for the US citizenship. But, as it is, some of American policies do bug me, and I like traveling on Polish passport... so I can live with the status quo a little longer.

I found an interesting piece that relates to the citizenship vs. residency discussion:

ascotadvisory.com/Incorporations_Directory/second_passports_residency.html

How is that harsh? If you're swearing to be a citizen of country A, I think it's a pretty reasonable to ask you to have allegiance with that country, not with another one. The nation that calls you a citizen and affords you all the rights of a citizen has the right to expect you to fight and behave in its best interests. What if there was a draft and you were drafted in a war? You think it'd be ok to desert your country and fight for another one?

I don't know why the US doesn't make naturalized citizens recant their prior citizenship, but I feel it may have something to do with the fact that the US is a nation of immigrants. I always saw dual citizenship as a way to respect one's former country and culture and maintain rights in and to it, while placing primary importance on the US.

I think the mother countrys should do it instead.I was born in India studied in Australia,made carrier in the usa and now am moving to Poland go figure that.I still call India my motherland,USA my promise land,and Poland my Homeland.BTW I am dual citizen of Poland and the USA and OVERSEAS CITIZEN CITIZEN OF INDIA(OCI) and to get that Indian embassy made me resign my Indian citizenship to get that status, had a permanent residence of australlia(which I dont know if its valid still) but dont care about the down under.

If ever godforbid these countriies get into conflict I guess I will stay neutral and not take sides as I grade them all equal to me.

cool info on how good is your passport, strictly from the point of view of how many countries it will get you in: