Living in Britain and feeling Polish, at first I thought it would be 'cool' that so many Polish people would be moving to Britain when Poland joined the EU. Now I see it is not so 'cool.' Most of the Polish youngsters I see that have emigrated here are lowlife, foul mouthed, drunk, no self respect having pieces of trash. Sometimes when I here conversations I feel like cringing with embarrasement and hope that noone else near me understands the language. A lot of British folks who have met Polish people, [normally younger Polish people] boast about the few words they were taught. Surprise surprise, yes the words are usually all rude. K, Sku, Pier and so on. Again it does make me wonder what sort of people from Poland it is that they are mixing with. There probably are intelligent folks who move here as well but on the whole, it seems to be the lazy, utterly useless ones, who probably did nothing can get drunk and cause problems in Poland, that now have it even easier to do all of that here and get benefits.
Yea, there may be some lowlife, foul mouthed immigrants, but thats not only Polish people. Its like that with every ethnic group. You got good, hard working people, and you got the morons. My relatives moved to the UK for a better living, but they are not foul mouthed, rude and lazy people. They are hard working and speak fluent english. My uncle moved to UK, made a ton of money, had a nice flat, nice car, and lived very comfortably. He moved back to Poland a year ago, and is unemployed now. He might go and live in UK for good now. A lot of Polish people like UK, and I'm not just talking about money.
Yes but there are probably less of them living in Poland. Unless you are referring to holidays and stuff. Regarding that I have heard that some places have a 'no British people' sign on them. I suppose this is due to the constant problems that they have.
I think it was the first wave that gave Poland a bad rep but you just need to ignore them. They probably can't afford the flight back to Poland ;) There are quite a few cretins around from what I've heard but they only paint one part of society, a part that most societies have.
Surprise surprise, yes the words are usually all rude. K, Sku, Pier and so on.
Ha ha they're just playing a joke that's actually rather funny in my opinion. It's variant is to be seen in a Cheech and Chong movie in which Cheech tells the monolingual Chong that a certain Spanish cuss-word means "friends".
Its just kids . Dont get too uptight about it, Im fluent in the obscene language of several European countries from my miss spent back packing youth,surprise surprise I also learnt quite a few other,less profane words too , we all were young once,its a shame some people forget they were too sometimes :)
In the late 90s I met the sort of young Polish lad that would have old people weeping with pride. He shook hands,heel clicked and bowed to me just because I was a couple of years older,that was great seeing as we met on the Bridge at Arnhem both paying respects to our respective ancestors,but frankly that sort of behaiviour would be a bit OTT in 21st century britain .
Ha ha they're just playing a joke that's actually rather funny in my opinion.
Don't think it was meant as a joke when said to them. It's not like they think it means something else, it's just the first thing they were taught.
@isthatu2
I am 24 and consider myself young. I know if someone asked me to teach them some Polish I would not start with curse words, not now, not when I was younger. I am not a prude and do know how to have fun but it just says a lot about the class of some people. The same way swearing in public, even if you think noone understand you, says a lot about you.
Lol, nice bit of passive agressive insulting there mate :) FYI,a 24 year old who talks about "youngsters" is just asking to be considered an old fart on line :) As for "class" wouldnt that involve not labeling whole swathes of your Polish cousins as classless yobs?
I'll be honest with the exception of a few languages, three of the first five words I learn of any language are the insults. It's the same all over, you want to know when someone is insulting you... I'd know even if someone smiled at me but said kurwa (pardon my french) I'd know where I stood with them even though I only know about 4 polish words I definitely know that one. I can say hi in chinese, but I made sure I knew when they were insulting my mother.
It's the done thing, my mate doesn't know any polish but could order a "special" from a "working girl" don't know where he learned it and don't care, it's the fascination and novelty factor. But if that gets kids interested in languages ... it may not be too bad of a price to pay :)
Living in Ireland and feeling the same. For a while it was even funny. Stupid people have some kind of charm, they might be quite original in their stupidity. But then its just annoying. I am here good few years and don't have any Polish friends (although I would want to). The only Poles here I have contact with are those on BBC4, lately Januszczk and Panufnik. Deliberately choose to share a house with Irish mates, only because even if they are dull, I can still learn something new from them.
You've been anglified. Swearing is little more than informal punctuation between friends. Sometimes it's used as an icebreaker. The job vacanciess that are encouraged for Poles to fall into here are hardly going to entice the most cultured sections of Poland to immigrate, so what you get is what you expect. When used well swearing is a f'ing art form.
it seems to be the lazy, utterly useless ones, who probably did nothing can get drunk and cause problems in Poland, that now have it even easier to do all of that here and get benefits.
mostly true - during 2005 and 2006 crime statistics fell sharply in Poland and it was not because the police were suddenly much more effective (perhaps they were a bit more effective but not to that extent) - I could walk by nights through the town I lived and felt copletely secure -
Also, don't you think with anything is just the bad and noisy stuff that gets noticed whearas when it comes to normal quiet people, its just like "no comment" - whether you are talking about tourists or immigrants anywhere.
You tend to feel freer in most foreign countries. Yes, you respect cultural norms but there is a certain looseness that comes with being abroad. Many simple ones cling rigidly to that which they know and feel they have more license to do so. It is fair to say that many accepted menial jobs early days, knowing that they could get 7200PLN for doing a 1000 pounds a month job. Even washing dishes could get you 800 pounds a month with good hours, thus around 5800PLN then. Bunch together in large numbers, eat cheap stuff and then there is a fair bit of disposable income to waste on beer (says he drinking a beer, albeit a top Ukrainian one, LOL). After a few beers, out come the kur*as and pathetic male posturing that goes on.
It's quite difficult for most immigrants on arriving in a new country.Many of the poles arrive as single men and find it hard to make friends. The established families are a little wary of mixing with them, the English/Welsh are not particularly friendly towards them as there is resentment over jobs, there is quite a high rate of marriage breakdowns in the immigrant community plus most poles are doing jobs that are not as rewarding or skillful as they would normally do. Take all these factors into consideration and you end up with a situation where there are a lot of unhappy people having to mix with people they wouldn't normally mix with. Add to this the fact that the decent polish girls are often in a relationship already and most British women are wary of entering into a realtionship with these men. Loneliness plus alcohol can equal bad behaviour!!!!
As for the younger lads, it's not that easy being a pole in a Welsh or English school and some do act tough or with excessive bravado. I can appreciate what Weilkipolack is saying and do not condone this behaviour but there are reasons.
It is fair to say that many accepted menial jobs early days, knowing that they could get 7200PLN for doing a 1000 pounds a month job.
Bollocks dude.Only those who left Poland to work abroad temporarilly and short term with intention to go back to Poland count it the way you did.If I get paid in USD and spend in USD why would I care how much my wage is in PLN's???I don't care.
As for taking menial jobs,it is not like someone is taking ****** job because he or she likes it.But you got to start with something.It is not like taking menial job I agree to do it till the end of my life.You feel me?Sometimes you got to do what you got to do.
When I first came to US,my first job was at BK for $6.50/h,I worked there 2 (two) days because next day I found a job paying $8.50/h,then I found a job paying $10/h and so on,I have never changed better job for a worse one and I don't believe any sensible person ever did voluntarilly.
P-ndejo... Kind of like when blacks refer to one another, as the N word. It's supposedly meant to be said, strictly in a friendly manner? Go figure!
Strangely enough, I don't know any of my black friends that use this term. I'm guessing american TV has a lot to answer for. The only person I knew that used it was a half white, half black girl and she was just trying to act ghetto even though she went to a posh grammar school :p
Loneliness plus alcohol can equal bad behaviour!!!!
Haha, that is so true... looking on this forum anyway. You know yourselves :D
Most of the Polish youngsters I see that have emigrated here are lowlife, foul mouthed, drunk, no self respect having pieces of trash.
I dont think thats the case WielkiPolak at all, sure there are many Polish scum bags in the UK but the hard working ones you wont see on a daily basis because theyre all at work. Its the same situation with pretty English women, if youre in the city on week days theyre mostly all ugly big fat munters, because the self respecting pretty English ladies are either at work or doing something constructive. If you hit the town for a night out and go to the right places there are many beautiful English women.
Sometimes when I here conversations I feel like cringing with embarrasement and hope that noone else near me understands the language.
I understand Polish and know how you feel, but really its not as bad as you may think. I was at work the other day and there was a guy talking to me with an accent, i knew he was Polish instanly so i asked him his nationality, he very reluctantly said "im from Poland" as they know theres a lot of animosity towards them in the UK, then i break out my Polish and tell him that i lived in Poland for 5 years and hes a different guy. A thoroughly decent chap i have to say.
Pretty much all the Poles ive met in the UK since ive been back have been sound, I actually really enjoy chatting with them. Its all bollox at the end of the day anyway, we are all human beings with the same beating hearts.
I did actually here a first hand story of Polish guys beating up drunken Brits on the way back from town on Saturday nights then stealing their phones and wallets but lets not get into that at the moment.
Some Poles are well-versed in sneak thievery. Rarely do I feel threatened when 2 come near me drunk but 4 or 5 is a different story. They value safety in numbers and discreet sleights of hand. The sly buggers are worth the watching but many Poles are just too indifferent to be criminals ;) ;)
Ive published many times on here that the only time i felt threatened whilst in Poland was from my own country men, in Krakow there was about 20 of them all drunk and out for the menace you know the type. I'm a great judge of character and these guys were trouble. It was a bar and they were being loud and obnoxious, i just had to leave because i friggen hate people like that. In Wroclaw i used to approach these people and say look guys youre in a foreign country try and show some respect, lets try and be good ambassadors for our country. But these dudes in Krakow were a bit more and they knew it, just out for a cheap beer up.
anyway moving on: I sometimes visit a shop fairly near where i live in the UK for Polish beer, its the cheapest place to buy Polish beer at 99p a can, the language in there from the average Pole is atrocious, I would say 30% of the customers are Polish as its right in the heart of the main Polish occupied area, the Polish women are loud and mostly ruff and the men are all meat heads. What always amazes me is the amount of Polish meat heads in the UK, many are friggen massive and look really hard. Thats just not the case in Poland at all.
people say to me "ohh you lived in Poland, the women are gorgeous and the men are really big arent they", and my reply is always the same "not at all". Walking around Wroclaw you see the same type of people as you see anywhere else, why many of the big fcukers are in England is beyond me....
Oh, I see quite a few meatheads here, WB. Granted, they tend to be found more in specific parts but still....
Yeah, I saw a few rugger types back in Scotland. Scotland has many jobs for such folk. The Job Centre staff will be getting their bonuses as it's easy to put them into work. Not so with many Scots who get more on the dole.
What always amazes me is the amount of Polish meat heads in the UK, many are friggen massive and look really hard. Thats just not the case in Poland at all.
You figured it out didn't you? When Poles get too big, they get kicked out of the country. Recently, a seven foot 330 lb Pole moved to Poletown, USA and he was just average size in that neighborhood and fit right in. -
Oh, I see quite a few meatheads here, WB. Granted, they tend to be found more in specific parts but still....
Well lets talk about steroids shall we? many of them are so pumped up on steroids its no wonder theyre big, theres a guy at my gym who two months ago was massive, i saw him yesterday and he was skinny again, i happened to walk past as he was ordering another batch of juice. I mean when you over hear people saying 20 and 10 Mill i dont think theyre talking about protein shakes. I saw him a couple opf months ago and i was like 1: he doesnt look English 2: hes massive.
His veins were bulging like somebody with a serious varicous issue, so there it is steroids, also his girlfriend looked like she'd done 10 rounds with Mike Tyson, standing by him like she was the proudest woman alive.
There's plenty here on the steroids you can tell by the way they train at the gym. They stand out a mile by the way they walk around the gym, really p1sses me off to be honest.
You Brits should shut up about poles if it wasn't for them you would of lost ww2 but then again anybody that pays one family the you pay your queen is not to smart to begins with
Kazimierz Wielki would have chopped your balls off for talk like that.
You Brits should shut up about poles if it wasn't for them you would of lost ww2
But its nothing to do with you, or your family that never fought alongside the British DID THEY, so you dont understand the bond that was struck between Poles and Brits during that time, you can spout bullshit , but you know nothing.
