I worry about the Poles working in the UK

Its not the mistakes of government, but of chaos.

If you like, if that makes you feel better.


There isnt going to be any lynch mobbing of Poles in the UK dude, plain and simple. Foreigners have been coming to our island and settling for decades, targeting Poles would be the highest order of hypocrisy. Yes theres not much order among thieves, even so i just cant see it at all, sorry to disagree with you.

Worst case scenario - street scale demonstrations, it is the governments fault after all, theyre the guilty ones.

But lets take your theory for a moment please explain the implementation. Provide a typical example.

I would not worry about them.I have not long lost my job (Im working again) and because my wife works full time we have worked hard and have savings I would get almost next to nothing after many many years paying in to the system which is meant to support me when I need it.

On the other hand we know of a Polish girl who got pregnant by a non Uk resident (Africans sorry shes not sure who's the father) and lives the life of riley on hand outs.She was an Aupair so never paid any money in to the system as she was being paid cash.

Where I am now working the are 7 Poles and they all are doing well

Milky, I can't remember the exact documentary but maybe it was 'The Poles are Coming' which is available through Google Video. Part of it was to show through an expose how unions are actively discriminating against domestic labour. Wade through them as they are worth watching.

What your around to abuse me but not explain your own thread?

Were patiently waiting.... hurry up





DUH indeed

And you are telling me that all the 'Pakis out' style graffitti and NF / EDL marchs are simply the way inner city people extend their hand to foreigners? You are in denial. Britain is a fundamentally racist society and has been for centuries. The only reason you've never noticed is because you haven't been the minority - Although it is a sad comment on British society if you represent the norm.

If we have decided, hey people lets try to open the borders and create a one big country and people say yes, it must take some time to equal the level of wealth. In other case it will never succeed. Our bad luck is that it happened in the middle of our lifes :/ So it is goverment task to change regulations to avoid benefit system misuse.

As you can see I live in Olsztyn now and not going to relocate anywhere ;)

58.97 %

Are you British?


:)

Ehh no im not saying that at all, but im glad you did, this is your thread remember and its got nothing to do with Paki's. Till you mentioned it of course. This is a thread about Poles - your thread!!. Come on get with the program.


So why target the Poles? Back to YOUR thread again.


You dont really have a fcuking clue what youre talking about do you?

And??

I've spent my fair share of time on that god forsaken lump of rock and whether you like it or not The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (commonly known as the United Kingdom, the UK, or Britain) is exactly that and it most certainly does include Northern Ireland.

You can deny it all you wish but it won't change that fact, not in your lifetime or mine.

Come on you slimey little fcuk get back here. What you think you can just abuse people and then go running off like a little puz$y.

Get back here and debate the point.

Like most other societies.


Well, there's a load of arab students just arrived in Olsztyn this week for the medical school .

Link? :)

If the point of this thread is that the OP's opinion is that the far right is rising in Europe and immigrants will get the blame first and we can expect a rise in xenophobic attacks or at least tabloids reports of attacks turning them into race attacks. he might have a point.

I've fought, I've been stabbed, was it a race attack?, was it in the news? no, would it have been if I were living in a country where people buy newspapers that sell such dribble? maybe.

What goes for 'journalism' in tabloids is nothing short of fear mongering, just look at how many dailymail articles are quoted in this forum, if that doesn't tell you everything, then I give up (NEVER;)

But through all this fake 'worry' blaming people on being racist and generally slagging people off, is anything to go by, then I am not sure what the point of this thread is?

Fundamentally racist? That's a bit OTT. The BNP has been on the rise due to a rejection of governmental policy more than the Poles themselves. If there wasn't free movement then there would obviously be far fewer Poles and thus they wouldn't be so visible. Easy, right? Then there wouldn't be (m)any bad feelings against them. It's simply that they are there and seen to be 'stealing' jobs. It has little to do with their Polishness, it's simple people looking for simple forms of attack. Truth be told, most Brits know diddly squat about Poles. Even with me it's a work in progress at times.

Isn't calling britain racist being rather ethnocentric?

I thought the thread was about the fall in job opportunities and economic problems.

What type of attack do you envisage?


I think it depends on what your point is, I see people calling Poland racist on here all the time but I think most of the posters couldn't point to Poland on a map.

I am sure Mr.Bubbles could point Britain on a map but I think it carries meaning if he himself is British and looking inwards or a foreigner looking out.

But I still think the point of this thread is lost a bit.


Try to put it like a headline of a tabloid, then perhaps we will be able to understand it and rally around it with pitchforks and torches (pitchforks and torches will not be provided, bring your own)

If I try and make sense of it, I get "Right wing on the rise"?
I am sure that's on a tabloid somewhere :)

What are you saying youve been stabbed in Poland?

Digs against their Polishness, Seanny. Nothing more, nothing less :)

I should be so luck... no in Ireland years ago.

But apparently noone wants to hear about an Irish guy being stabbed in Ireland by other Irish guys (10 to 1 I might add).

I wasn't a foreigner or unemployed or gay or anything else that sells tabloids.


Are you in this tabloid thing too?

I mean the digs against Polish being exaggerated by tabloids used as right wing politics as a means to get in to power and no good comes of it?

All the while bankers pay themselves fat bonuses for letting their business get a bailout... politicians (left and right) not representing the people but their love of money...

Indeed.

Actually it was a failed attempt at irony on my half. I just get fed up with people making out britain is racist as if it's the only place in the world which is.

Also, I hadn't twigged Mr B is british. My laziness in not reading the thread more closely.

I believe in sensitivity, perspective and tact, Seanny. Knowing some people's natural jumping to hair-raising responses based on differences, the tabloids should know better than to stir the hornets' nest and stoke the embers. We know that such things happen in some places but money doesn't pass hands between us, now does it? Profitting from the loss of others is just wrong. Politicians use all manner of tools and it's sick.

As ever in my commentary, I feel for innocent people. I'll be damned if I get singled out for being a Scot here as a revenge attack. Such injustice would burn and they'd be hurt badly for it. Leave innocent people alone and let them earn their livings.

I thought that's why we called them tabloids?
Sensationalistic with small pages and the best ones have boobs :)


it is one of the many beauties of this forum, the lack of advertising and real agenda is great.


I hope the page three girls are suitably cold.


But we are all born sinners :D

Well, I dislike the lack of thoroughness of tabloids. Wouldn't it be good if stupid people read broadsheets and smart people read tabloids? There might be more of a meeting of the minds.

I second that. Right now, I suppose a Polish person is getting strife in the UK for sth or other but I'm not gonna go and write an article on it for personal gain. What a carry on!

Note the word 'for' :) :) They aren't entirely innocent either, Seanny ;)

Oh yes, when in Poland, talk like a Pole. Wait, I'm not a Pole..... ;) ;) I'm very aware of not sinning.

Hmm...I've just had a read of my post. On topic enough but let's try and keep more on track, lads.

You are simply not trying hard enough.

It is a matter of fact that life in a recession is bad, perhaps more so in ways if you are a foreigner, without family or life long friends to fall back on.


Demi-mod?

True, the boomerang generation doesn't apply so directly when you fly far from the nest. Life cannot be good for Poles both ways as sending money from Poland won't be easy when you earn little here and it's worth 5 times less.

I try not to be but we have to keep the focus (says he listening to warped ambient music). The Poles benefitted so they must ride the wave and accept the rougher times. We are all at the mercy of certain forces that determine important things.

But where do those friends reside?

In truth, I don't think the Polish have much to worry about. As has already been said, Poles are a resilient bunch and probably better equipped to ride this out than most of their British counterparts.

Oh, I agree but the ball isn't completely in their court (nor ours). It isn't like we can all say we will keep our jobs forever or give ourselves pay increases. They are often in a weaker bargaining position and we all know that bosses tend not to lose out so sb must.

Well most of my mates are from the country I have spent most my life and if they ever needed a hand and I was able, I would be willing and you can't say that so many people would be willing to help you personally, as a foreigner, without the shared history.

I get the sneaking suspicion I have somehow misunderstood your question.

You know what I mean though, there are jobs and pay I have worked for, outside of my own country, that I did not have to when I was living with my family and friends.

It's a question of survival and people who don't have to do crappy jobs won't.