welshguyinpola 23 | 463
5 Oct 2011 / #1
I am starting this thread because of the confusion surrounding the purchase of cigarettes within the EU, in particular the issue of how many can be taken back to the UK.
I would like to start by stating that the 'limit' the UKBA put on the amount that can be taken into the UK is only a guideline, as it is for the rest of the EU countries also. This means, as long as for personal consumption only, one can take as many as one wants. Anyone who says otherwise have been listening to UKBA propoganda.
The problem lies in the fact that even though the UKBA know this, they still try to rob innocent shoppers of their merchandise, in which they have a high success rate.
The fact is that, unless UKBA have received an anonomyous tip-off or have evidence you are selling, they cannot even stop your free passage through the airport. Rmember, the burden of proof is on them, not on you. Please read the hoverspeed case to see why this is so:
day-tripper.net/accesshoverspeed.html - read this whole page, it is disgraceful the way UKBA act.
If you get pulled by the UKBA, dont let them touch anything. Thye will demand you to open your bags - you are not obliged to. They will demand you to hand over ur passport - again don't, they cant make you.
The most important thing you must remember is don't talk too much. Alot of ppl try to blab their way out of the situation but this just gives UKBA sth to use against u. Just give a concise yes, or no and keep asking them why they are detaining you against your will.
They will then tell you that they are going to arrest you, dont worry this is where you have the upper hand. If they arrest you then they are legally obliged to record the interview they give you. This can only work in your favour as your words cannot be twisted then as everything is on tape.
Keep reminding them of the hoverspeed case and that they arre detsining you illegally, for not other purpose than to **** them off - it's quite funny.
Once they have found that they are not gonna get anything from you, they will ask you to sign a statement which was apparently said by you. Do not sign it, you are not legaslly obliged to, or sign it as micky mouse. If you sign this, UKBA have sth to use against u in court. For a laugh you can even ask the UKBA offiical to read the whole statemant back to you then refuse to sign.
Remember to always get the UKBA agent's ID number and name, they arre oblighe dto give it to you.
Here are the basics, if you want to know more pls PM me
I would like to start by stating that the 'limit' the UKBA put on the amount that can be taken into the UK is only a guideline, as it is for the rest of the EU countries also. This means, as long as for personal consumption only, one can take as many as one wants. Anyone who says otherwise have been listening to UKBA propoganda.
The problem lies in the fact that even though the UKBA know this, they still try to rob innocent shoppers of their merchandise, in which they have a high success rate.
The fact is that, unless UKBA have received an anonomyous tip-off or have evidence you are selling, they cannot even stop your free passage through the airport. Rmember, the burden of proof is on them, not on you. Please read the hoverspeed case to see why this is so:
day-tripper.net/accesshoverspeed.html - read this whole page, it is disgraceful the way UKBA act.
If you get pulled by the UKBA, dont let them touch anything. Thye will demand you to open your bags - you are not obliged to. They will demand you to hand over ur passport - again don't, they cant make you.
The most important thing you must remember is don't talk too much. Alot of ppl try to blab their way out of the situation but this just gives UKBA sth to use against u. Just give a concise yes, or no and keep asking them why they are detaining you against your will.
They will then tell you that they are going to arrest you, dont worry this is where you have the upper hand. If they arrest you then they are legally obliged to record the interview they give you. This can only work in your favour as your words cannot be twisted then as everything is on tape.
Keep reminding them of the hoverspeed case and that they arre detsining you illegally, for not other purpose than to **** them off - it's quite funny.
Once they have found that they are not gonna get anything from you, they will ask you to sign a statement which was apparently said by you. Do not sign it, you are not legaslly obliged to, or sign it as micky mouse. If you sign this, UKBA have sth to use against u in court. For a laugh you can even ask the UKBA offiical to read the whole statemant back to you then refuse to sign.
Remember to always get the UKBA agent's ID number and name, they arre oblighe dto give it to you.
Here are the basics, if you want to know more pls PM me