Time for the Poles from the UK to go home

More than likely. Spain is full of British expats, who read the Daily Mail and moan and gumble about immigrants taking all the jobs, not learning English and so on - only to try and do the same themselves. They're the same people who will claim they're integrated because they drink San Miguel.

No. Actually I'm bringing in my mom and dad next month. What's now ?

Theres a big difference between cheap docile labour from eastern europeans and Brit expats in Spain.

don't forget about your dog and two cats

He can vote for UKIP and push for the UK to leave the EU.

I have 4 dogs (2 couples).


Would be fun to watch.

25 million to send them home?

Phuc that. Put them in a rocket and send them off in the general direction of eastern europe.

What, the fact that the Eastern Europeans are employable, whereas the Brits aren't?


Not a chance in a million years under the FPTP system.

Of course he can.

However, there isn't enough frustrated half-wits like him to make any difference
with their votes. Like in every country - racist twats in UK are only a small and
sad minority.

The Brits move capital into Spain and create employment. The eastern europeans take up menial employment, displace the local population, thus forcing them to extract cash from the public purse.

Its not rocket science.


Never say never.

At a guess I'd say that percentage comes from about 100 people asked in a predominately BNP area. You can come up with any statistic you like if you ask a certain number of people in a specific area. Like I could go to Spain and ask 100 people in certain areas if they would like the British ex-pats to return home. In one area a high percentage would say yes and in another area a high percentage would say no. Easily manipulated are these statistics.


Speak for yourself. BTW what is your country?

I don't agree with Winston's choice of words, but I would think that more would agree with him than you might think.

Have a conversation with pretty much anyone at the vending machine in any office in the UK and ask them what they think about immigration and most tend to reply that it's ok if controlled. Most agree that it is not controlled and that they've had enough.

Each and every opinion poll on immigration in both Ireland and the UK showed us that the general public wanted a much, much more stringent immigration policy.

This was from "The Times" in 2006. Well before the recession.

The research reveals that opinion on immigration is hardening dramatically, with three-quarters of the population calling for far stricter limits on immigrant numbers.

Almost half the population has serious doubts that allowing foreigners to settle in Britain is good for the country.

In a striking finding, women of all ages appear to be particularly hostile to the number of foreigners settling in the UK - with many deeply sceptical that it is benefiting Britain.

timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article614362.ece

Id hazzard a guess that your social circles consist of quite a lot of Poles, ergo your social circle are hardly going to speak negatively about mass immigration. To do so, would be considered rude.

I'm not under any illusions about the feelings of people regarding immigration and I also agree that immigration needs to be more tightly controlled. Foreign criminals should not be getting into this country or any other. Limits should be placed on how many immigrants can enter. However, his declaration of 95% is not backed up with evidence and as we all know, these stats come from on the street polls of less than 1000 people usually.


The good thing about my social circles is that we tend to be able to talk about any subject, including immigration. I have Scottish friends who'll bring up the problems with immigration and Polish friends who will agree with them. We also manage to have these conversation without descending into argument.

Your article from the Times shows research by MORI where 975 were asked. While it shows the opinions of 975 people of voting age it doesn't show accurately the views of the nation. Without knowing more about the people asked you can't take polls seriously (not just these immigration ones - any kind) and they will be variable depending on where you ask them. Like if I stand on my front street and ask fifty passers-by if they like sunbeds I'll get a different result than if I were to stand outside a tanning salon and ask the same question. The only way to get a true account is to ask every single person in Britain aged 18 or over.

I'm not saying people in the UK don't want immigration controls to change, I'm just saying these polls can be manipulated. That's all.

I can quote a poll from MRBI, Red C or dozens of other companies. If their methods for polling were flawed, they would be out of business. Obviously there is some margin for error as its not a perfect science, but each and every opinion poll on immigration have shown us that the people of the UK and Ireland want much, much more stringent controls.

Its not some sort of conspiracy, most of these papers who submit theses poll results are rather left wing, ie "The Guardian" and "The Irish Times". Why would they falsify a poll result that goes against their ethos? I dont think you understand the methods behind polling.

I've yet to hear of any research that has been carried out that has given anything resembling real information.


Like you I've many discussions about immigration with all kinds of people as it's the only way to find out what everyone thinks. Whether it be British, British asian, British black or EU immigrant, most say the same: Too many people allowed in and not enough control.

You're right that everything can be changed to suit a diffent person's agenda and we'll see more of that the closer to the election we get.

Unless UKIP get a decent amount of seats, immigration will not change. All major parties will speak about "coming down hard on immigration" but they will all quietly forget about it after the election.

I believe Nu-Labour are naturalising foreign nationals at the rate of every two minutes another foreigner obtains British citizenship. Just before an election too, what a coincidence! Its not like the "new British" will vote for the party who allowed them enter the country in the first place, is it? ;)

The UK is fooooked.

which country Went through a period of soviet imperialism? Does that answer your question?

Try 800 years of British imperialism.

PolskaDoll is correct here.
Any survey or poll has to rely upon sampling, the methodology behind how the sample is chosen has to be known to ensure that its a representative sample. So unless the data and method is peer reviewed it cannot be taken as statistically correct.

People around a water cooler may have an opinion but that is all it is. You cannot form policy on hearsay.


FFS Just be confident in yourself and your country. You dont have to mention that at every opportunity. You're like a brit and 1966.

I am against mass immigration so I respect the British people if they want Polish people to go home.

I'm against gross oversimplification, which is why I'm glad to say that the reality is that the British people as a whole do not care either way whether the Poles stay or not, with the silent majority drifting towards a positive view of the Poles being here.

I will stop talking about it when the occupation of my country ceases. Hows that for ya?


Can you back that up? With workers striking and Labour making promises on immigration that would make the BNP blush, it seems immigration is a major issue in the UK. Although as I am not a resident of the UK, I could be entirely wrong. Am I?

Really.. how dare you speak for Britain.. (its the UK moron) what is your problem Winston.. I agree with another post.. why are you even looking on a Polish Forum if not to wind people up.. which you have succeeded in.. please NAFF off mate and do something with your life.. by the way /...... YES I am British you idiot

I cannot back it up with anything other than the fact that I live in the UK, and believe myself to have satisfactory political and social awareness to gauge such things based on individual merit with sufficient detachment and perspective.

Immigration is a HUGE issue in the UK at the moment. But really, when hasn't it been? It's been a hot topic all through the second half of the 20'th Century, and at points it has been much more heated than it is today. Just because it is discussed a lot does not mean it is a serious issue. British people simply love to complain about things which, had they even the slightest bit of world awareness, they should realise as being insignificant. For example, there is a ton of whining about how the current government is corrupt and dishonest and inefficient and blah blah blah. Is it? Yes, just like any other government. Is it also one of the most mobile, democratic, rewarding and transparent governments in the world? Also yes. British people are too busy focusing on how bad they have it and how oppressed and stifled they are, but the plain reality is that things are nowhere near as bad as the complaint level. Immigration will continue to be moaned about, and it will continue to be a non-issue, just as it has always been. This country has gone far too long without an invasion or a REAL oppressive regime that people have gotten soft.

Seriously, you taking the p*ss?

I agree Poles should return to Poland and make it a great country rather than work in western Europe for minimum wage.

What a dork!

What sort of nonsense talk is this, are we going to start a slinging match between the Poles and the Brits, if I accepted your argument I could say all Brits and people from Ireland should return home and make there country more better, come on get a life will you Orzelbialy.

Stop pretending to be an Irish Republican you filthy brit..... stop your lies.