Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism

As I mentioned in a previous post, a lot of Poles don't understand why you start laughing when they in one sentence first give out about non-white ppl and then complain that somebody said that they were "just Polish". It may not seem so, it's the same thing. Think about it :)

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M-G (thinks it's time to eliminate all racism in the world as we only got one ball to live on)

well - not my fault that you let in all sorts of low-life from around the world - the thing is it is somehow Poles who take the brunt of a general dissentiment towards foreigners (there are Polish low-lifes as well there)

exactly, most of Polish people that I know who emmigrated to UK had basic education and were of the thuggish type..

Oh come on, you know that this is not true. What about the Muslims, Pakistani, Indians, Africans? Besides being picked on all the time, they have the distinct disadvantage (at least in the minds of those racist idiots) that they look different, so a potential racist can immediately point them out as being different, not one of "us". Poles at least look like "us", so it's much harder to distinct them from "us" at first sight. That is, until they open their mouth :)

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M-G (a racism-free world by 2011, one year before the world ends, so at least we can enjoy it for a year)

so you obviously work somewhere grim. one of the problems of Polish diaspora in the UK, already spoken about by your Government, is that Poles are highly educated and qualified, but don't use this advantage. England has woken up and saw that they are not using this resource at all - million of educated, bright people could create trillions for your economy, but end up in menial jobs.

no matter how paradoxical it may appear to you Poles get more than a fair share of the dissentiment

Believe or not I do understand what Polish ppl are saying aside from Kurwa kurwa and dziesienc pfund. Is that so very strange?
Please excuse my spelling I only know spoken Polish.


Yes I make effort in every European language..:)Dzięki Gumi...xx ..and yes Gumi...close to a decade, there were thousands of Poles here working before 2004 as I am sure you know....with their children in state schools and using the Health service...


it's not about "insecurity" or my imagination it's about objecting to newcomers to my country being extremely rude to and about the ppl here, another example? OK how about the gang of drunken hooligans outside their squat in London Sieg Heiling to every passing non white person? Or was that simply my "insecurity"?

And the dress sense ;) :D


That's a lie, just like the "doing jobs the English won't do" spin is a lie. It's all about convincing the country that everyone in the UK is too thick, too badly trained, or too lazy to the jobs which are available - and only foreign-born people can do these jobs properly. This is just what the Government, business leaders, and their mouthpiece - the press - wants everyone to believe.

Some Poles are highly-educated or well-educated. These are the Poles who work in the UK as doctors, nurses, dentists, teachers, IT consultants, etc. Many have a good education, and do other, possibly more menial, jobs.

Others - the "ja ku*wa idę na k*rwa piwko i k*rwa zobacz tego k*rwa czarnucha, zaraz pojeb*my tą k*rwa świnie" brigade and work as labourers, if at all, are clearly not highly-educated. And there are more of them than you think. Try living in a major city and you will soon find out that I speak the truth.

If they would only speak English...

But anyhow, I don't believe that the majority of the Polish immigrants are highly educated (besides the fact that every country sees its educational system as the best). This implies that there are no bright spirits in the UK itself. As I am sure there are lots of them, the Poles simply won't get a chance as of course if a British company has the choice between a bright English or a bright Polish lad, they for certain will choose the British lad. Not out of racism, but mainly because everybody everywhere would do that. Believe me, most of the Polish workers that come to work abroad are low-qualified. I believe actually that the Polish intelligentia didn't want to leave PL at all.

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M-G (luctor et emergo)

Ksysia, I bet you have some lovely jeans, I’m almost envious every time I see a Polish woman walk by sporting the most magnificent jeans I have ever seen...Maybe you could write about those in your next thread?

Why do you assume that? What does my place of work have to do with who I know from my childhood or ground school and secondary school? You obviously should have learnt some good manners.

And it's a simple fact that a huge percent of people who had gone to uk did it just for the sake of easy money - without any qualification or education required. Most of them would have stayed in Poland if they knew how to manage themselves.

I bet she never wears those tight, short market-stall jackets with "D + G" on them, either ;)

No, kid, you can bring any thread to your level any time - my help is not required.

thousands - ok - London is 15 million?
and Polish people were only entitled to state schools and health service when they had their children borne in the UK who automatically became UK citizens (as far as I know) - Polish people were not entitled to be emloyed legally - so they were not entitled to most/some of the benefits even if parents to a child borne in the UK (unless residents)

if they wanted to become residents they had to start a firm and pay taxes accordingly (and of course pay rents pay taxes in everyday goods etc) - I don't know what the tax credit is and how it works so I have no idea if it could have been used to their benefit


I think highly educated is wrong a word here (though some are actually highly educated) - but a couple of years ago master's degree (magisterium) was quite an achievement in Poland and many people who went to England had these

You are speaking here about students or graduates who came to UK for the summer or for half a year to gather some money for vacation or first flat. Not about those loads of polish chavs that have absoultely no qualification and education. And that's prolly most of them.

I'm not so sure I totally agree. The way I see it is that from my experience of having a Polish BF, that the majority of Poles in the UK never socialise with the British. They tend to share houses with other Poles and therefore don't fully integrate. My BF didn't even speak English when he came to the UK, and had we not met, I don't think he would have learnt!! His other housemates still speak virtually no English after 4 years!!

Dump him. He's no good.

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M-G (options are there for the taking)

M-G Believe me he's soooooooooooo good!!! ;-)

Nothing racist in what you wrote.
Read carefully what I posted. There are no accusations against you.

Never...she's too classy, she's got a Kalvin Klein one and a Berberry bag. (all spellings were intentional...OR knows what I mean)

Is it coz I is black? ;)

People do not like the Poles because they appear as fascists due to posture,face and body type.They are not like that but they make this impression.

And the West does not respect the Slavs at all they regard them as incompetent to build a proper state.

Where are you from?

Greece.Incompetence of Slavs to build powerful central states and a tendency to anarchism is known from antiquity.(yes,Romans knew about it too).

Are your parents both Greek?

Of course,why?

Aren't Greeks fascists?

I just always thought you were from the Balkans, I don't know why.

Well, that explains it. And a lot more, i'm sure ; )


Kysia, I'm sorry, but where to start with you?
You seem to have a massive problem with the UK. Or perhaps you're just doing a very well-educated thesis on some of these issues, and this is your research?

And bugger off with 'no Brits speak Polish'. I do. And I can assure you that I have a veritable armoury of offensive language at my command.

Not that I choose to use it. (well, not yet) (go on, push me ; )

Yes,some of them are.Where Sparta was born?Anyway this is the impression Poles make which in my opinion does not bother the Germans at all(other nice guys) but is a bit hard to endure in a multi kulti society aka the english one.

In Greece Poles are widely accepted and admired contrary to Albanians and more dark skinned individuals who are a pain in the neck.

Basically Poles tend to be proud and dreamers and these qualities are not very well perceived by the local folks who prefer humble and down to earth etc.In fact they think you are not even realistic,sth like that.