Let's do a little comparison shall we: a bit of anti-Polish graffitti vs centuries of murdering Jews? Who's more racist? When will the Poles stop being such hateful hypocrites?
See the comments on this site, where everyone praises a couple of drunken sl*ts because they beat up some English women:
Are you this dumb or are you just a troll? Should've seen the hundreds of anti-Polish snobby comments on the British 'news' site. These dumb sl**s don't represent 40+ million people but the daft twats in the comments think other wise, about the 'centuries of murdering Jews', have you got any sources?
The Sun: [********************************************************************************************************************************]
The Times: thetimes.co.uk/article/polish-sisters-spared-jail-for-racist-attack-mdkfthr7w
The Express: express.co.uk/news/uk/721304/Polish-sisters-Aleksandra-Mut-Angelika-Mut-racial-attack-british-women-Manchester
Notice the word 'racist' in every single title/url. But when 2 Polish men are killed, it's a plain-old 'hate crime', it's obviously only racist when Poles attack someone. Notice how all those articles point out how the sisters have been spared jail (which I think is wrong) but they don't do the same about the Polish men murdered for no reason by British teens, who have been spared jail-time. It works both ways mate.
In comparison, look at these:
The Mirror: mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teens-arrested-after-polish-man-8991964]
BBC News: bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-37576404] The Sun: thesun.co.uk/news/1924315/five-teens-arrested-after-a-polish-man-was-killed-in-hate-crime-attack-released-without-charge-due-to-lack-of-evidence/]
The Independent:independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/arek-jozwik-killing-harlow-hate-crime-post-brexit-racism-eu-referendum-poles-polish-immigrant-police-a7348091.html
Also, notice how all the titles have the term 'hate-crime' in quotation marks, but when they did the articles on the 'racist' attacks by the Polish girls (c***s), there are no quotation marks. Strange isn't it?
I think that might be because 'hate crime' is actually a criminal offence so you cannot use it without 'commas' until it is proven.Whereas 'racism' is a woolly unspecific term.
Honestly it's getting embarrassing, I might have to leave the country.
Don't kid yourselves, the UK used to like the Poles, then about 5 years ago, that all changed as they went far too overboard by coming over en masse (coupled with Romanian, Bulgarian etc) it is not possible to tell Slavic languages apart if you are British
Rather much as with Asians here in the States. For all too many of us, Korean, Chinese, and Japanese sound alike which naturally, as with Slavic languages, couldn't be further from the truth:-)
Folks out there tend to lump related languages together, which is a mistake, because at least with Asian languages, the above three are NOT mutually intelligible to native speakers of those languages!!
If Poles resent Anglos for speaking their English mother tongue, I say, that's simply their problem! If English people wish to speak Polish, that should be their perfect right as wellLOL
Not all, for sure, but the UK has no interest in learning these languages for the most part, not many Brit move to Eastern Europe, none are business languages nor are they thankful for the huge influx of eu nationals - imposing yourselves will not make any difference really
As one friend of mine said, Londoners are stupid enough to comprehend Poles as Russian agents that were sent on island to destabilize Britain. Ridiculous, of course.
But, on the other side, Poles could be quite well Serbian agents for disruption of former evil Empire. i like to think of it as our little vengeance to English for all that happened to Yugoslavia. In that sense, Poles goes pretty well. It is even interesting that one can be so successful in applying plan and even actually don`t have plan. How that work? Well, its all in English brains. Their overconfidence, their stupidity, hypocrisy. Its English who nicely, as i see, work against themselves. Thank you English for that.
When a immigrant to the UK has the courage to slag of someone in their own language ( English ) I will think more of it. People who slag of others in a different language are just cowards and it happens all the time. So if you speak another language, come and slag me off in English and to my face.
As for the Mut sisters ( quiet an apt name ) off the lead and without a muzzle it seems, well what they don't realise is they have ruined their own careers for themselves. They are best of going to Germany or back to Poland once the Nurse one has qualified.
Guys, we voted to leave, anyone who has not been here since 2014 will need a work permit or leave, companies will need to apply to headcount criteria, and the rest is up in the air...U.K. Will get poorer, brexit happened, your choice if you want to stay : ) bye everyone!
Well the UK has to leave if the EU is ever to get better.
The vote should have been a wake-up call for Brussels but it wasn't. Instead they're doubling down on the very rhetoric that helped Brexit win and making it look like a better idea every day.
At this point, unless major changes happen in Brussels the UK remaining in the EU would be a major blow to democracy and human rights.
There's still a lot to decide and of course a parliamentary vote - the next election will be the real decider. For Poles in the UK (and Brits in Poland) there is quite a lot to think about.
The thread title is a real mess; there is no 'deep hatred' at all.
Would parliament dare vote against Brexit? _Before_ an election?
At this point anything done unilaterally by the UK to stay in the EU would be a slap in the face of the electorate and one more step on the obliteration of democracy (and make the EU a far worse place to be).
Would parliament dare vote against Brexit? _Before_ an election?
Probably afterwards.
anything done unilaterally by the UK to stay in the EU would be a slap in the face of the electorate
No. The vote was close, the terms of any exit were not set out and Britain is a parliamentary democracy. There's also the issue of who could/couldn't vote as well as a clear will in Scotland/NI to remain.
It also looks like many of the people who voted for Brexit now regret it.
It would be bad now for uk to somehow not leave. I agree that article 50 should be signed asap. Thos mut sisters look like junk, nationality irrelevant, sheit is sheit. The teenagers are no surprise they are a reflection of their failed parents, nationality irrelevant, sheit is sheit. There was a bunch of teenagers yesterday here in oz who had a battle at mc donalds with baseball bats and machetes, nationality irrelevant, sheit is sheit.
There was a bunch of teenagers yesterday here in oz who had a battle at mc donalds with baseball bats and machetes
omg the last bastion is falling ;)
To be honest with you guys one million of Ukrainians in Poland don't bother me much. Even that they in majority speak Russian in Biedronka my ears don't suffer. I'm not going to organize any manhunt ;) I rely on police or border guards. Can't you just wait patiently for your government steps?
A lot of legal arguments and political discussion about whether or not they actually can trigger that at all
What part of "a majority of voters voted for the UK to leave the EU" do you not understand. The job of politicians is not to second guess or try to undo that decision but to implement it. If Scotland and Northern Ireland want to fo their own way and remain then godspeed and see how _they_ like living without monetary transfers from England.... (and the end of free border travel should they be daft enough to want to join Schengen).
It's not quite that simple Maf because UK referendums are not legally binding as that would undermine sovereignty. In that sense the government is under no obligation to take the UK out of the EU just because public opinion supports doing so. Conversely they can choose to uphold public opinion and ignore those who argue that the referendum was not legally binding because whether it was or not, the government can do whatever they like due to the Royal Prerogative, particularly when it relates to Treaties. The government does not have to consult parliament or obtain their support to trigger Act 50. However, despite the Royal bit, it is a matter of Common Law as to when it pertains, and this can only be decided by the Courts. Does the Royal Prerogative exist in this case? That's the issue really. It's a tricky one for the High Court because their main thing is upholding the law and judges do not like being told what to do by anyone, be it parliament or the people though they're generally rather fond of old Queenie. I don't think they'd like to upset HM by casting aspersions upon her Prerogative.
This all raises an interesting question for me. As England itself has no "Constitution", doesn't then the Queen have the legal authority to override Ms. May, or would the PM always have the final deciding say as to whether a law will go forward or not? Apropos the current Brexit, couldn't Buckingham Palace technically supercede 10 Downing Street?
Stimulating as the thread has become with Atch's last post, I'm still slightly confused on that point!
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