Poles in Ireland by Peadar de Burca. They "turned their backs on a country that gave them"

Ireland should be reunited. Turned their backs, lol. What rubbish!

why ?

I want Ireland to be united too :|

the question remains - why Ireland should be united?

It can be. There's a legal provision that allows Northern Ireland to join the Republic if the majority wish for it to be so.

Actually, there was a poll done recently - and the majority of Northern Irish Catholics want to stay in the UK. More generous welfare provisions, more generous subsidies - the list goes on.

Although I doubt your reasons, this is the irony. NI has effectively become a nation state of its own. Many NI "nationalists" have little in common with, or interest in the republic. Many NI "unionists" have little in common with, or interest in Britain - although both pay lip service to both notions.

Because the union with Britain was and continues to be a disaster for Ireland.


It was called the assembly election which show the Belfast Telegraph's poll to be nonsense. (The Belfast Telegraph is a Unionist and therefore right wing conservative paper)

It really makes sense. Why can't GB just be GB and eliminate the need for the UK?

Barney Because the union with Britain was and continues to be a disaster for Ireland.[/quote]
For Ireland or for NI ? In what way ?

Seanus It really makes sense.[/quote]
Really? It also make sense that Lwów should belong to Poland, somehow you fail to see it!

Ireland the entire Island.


How long have you got?

Governance is about providing for the People whether you allow business to take the lead or it’s planned (to a greater or lesser degree) by the powers that be. The Union with Britain failed to give good governance and Ireland...The Island....suffered and continues to suffer.

you are talking about the past, for the last say 90 years Republic was an independent entity,how Britain affected their governance ?

As for NI seems to me that until a few years back NI was doing well in comparison to the south.

An Editorial in the Manchester Guardian 15th May 1886


Its too complicated to go further.

you are still talking about the past and I tend to agree that in the past Ireland was abused but since 1922 Ireland is independent.
Why NI should be untied with Republic for other then political reason?
If implemented it would leave numerous minority inside Ireland's borders.

This is where the problem really started (in case you didn't know but I think you maybe do) :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantation_of_Ulster

I-S, they are part of one island. Lwów isn't part of the same land mass. The difference is that those in NI could vote yes to it. Those in Lwów are almost certain to say no.

Wow, talk about dragging up an old post for no reason SeanBM............not that its relevent,but,I am Irish................and what part did you disagree with?

The fact that whenever the subject comes up a load of people with no connection whatsoever to ireland chip in with old republican bollox that they have no understanding of,just jump on the hollywood/plastic yank paddy bandwagon?


So by that logic seanus, disolve the Scottish parliement and Welsh assembaly now because obviously the larger part of the island should rule over those inconvenient little bits at the top and side.

Yes I do know about that, and I do not question the past abuse. I just would like to know what would be a reason or reasons for NI united with Ireland.

Especially that British sizable minority would be strongly opposed to such merge and Ireland is not exactly Eldorado at it is.


So is England, Scotland and Walsh.
Well, if you would have had given to Soviets NI for a five years all their residents would be voting Russia no doubt about it.

Would you give up Dundee if for some reason fell into somebody's else hands?

Because it’s one Country, a line was drawn by the British through the country dividing families, farms, houses and villages. Its an artificial line drawn to ensure a sectarian state existed.

Reunification makes economic sense for example a unified transport infrastructure would be a good thing. In the North the Unionist government built a motorway to nowhere, not to the second largest city in the north Derry or Dublin the largest city on the Island but to a field 15km from the nearest town. This is an example of bad governance that union with Britain brought.

The provision of health care is another area that would benefit. There are so many areas that would benefit from reunification.

Interestingly, that should have been all cleared up - but the Boundary Commission's report was leaked - and it caused outrage in almost all quarters. As I recall, a lot of the absurdities were due to be eliminated, but because of the Nationalist population going mad because they didn't get the huge swathes of NI that they wanted, and the Unionist population going mad because of the loss of territory - it just couldn't happen.

There were plans to return areas such as South Armagh to Dublin - but, something that kept coming up - would the Republic really want such places? Ireland couldn't afford the 2bn+ subsidy given every year to NI, for a start.


That was a fantastic example of how completely out of control the Unionst Government was in NI. The state of the road between Derry and Belfast to this day is a disgrace - but they do seem to be finally doing something about it.

Well, I would be my argument for regaining Lwów, somehow peeps on here found that hilarious.

Dublin is paying for the new road to be built.


I've always thought that argument was a weak one.

Not just there, but there's all the other improvements - the A1 is pretty much motorway-standard between the border and the M1 now, though they should just bite the bullet and designate the thing as motorway.


I dunno - do you think Dublin would be keen on paying for all the stuff that keeps both sides quiet in NI? Would Dublin even want to have a lot of angry Unionists within her borders?

For what it's worth, I would have been a huge fan of handing over nationalist-majority areas in NI. Fermanagh, Tyrone and bits of Armagh could have gone south - and perhaps West Belfast. The Unionist part of Derry could have stayed in NI, along with most of the other counties. Given the circumstances of the time, they could have easily moved Nationalists/Unionists to the "right" side of the border - and NI would have remained as a overwhelmingly majority Unionist state.

Leaving Crossmaglen in the North was one of the most stupid moves ever made by the British, if you ask me.

what about British minority then ?

Seems that nobody knows or care what would happened with British minority in NI.

What would happen?

Probably massive riots, open warfare and indiscriminate killings of Catholics.

No such thing old chap. NI Irish population is 100% British.

Well, I think that somebody forgot to tell them about it.

Under the terms of the good Friday Agreement, not necessarily.

They will have a larger voice/say within Ireland than within the UK.


Partition didn’t work repartition wouldn’t work either. It seems strange but the way the electoral boundaries are means Belfast is almost a majority Nationalist city, Derry is Nationalist as is Armagh, Newry, Omagh and Enniskillen. Unionists dont really have a rock solid major city/town outside of Antrim or North Down, also the patchwork of nationalist areas in the Unionist Heartlands combined with the huge areas that are majority Nationalist would involve massive forced ethnic cleansing again and that would be a nightmare, repartition would be immoral.

they have not exactly done themselves a lot of favours recently

Let's face it, the Poles are not exactly falling over themselves to welcome back the Polonia from Kazahkstan and other former Soviet Republics

the way I see it they would lose economically....they maybe be a potential long term problem for Ireland,maybe in 25 yeas all circumstances change and unification would be possible