Why are Poles in the UK complaining of racism when you are racist?

General question.

I have met many British blacks and asians even immigrants who aren't white who have been abused by Polish (other ee) saying "europe is for europeans"

Not only that you abuse English people as well.

Your problem is you came here and got to big for your boots now you are complaining about racism/xenophobia against yourselves? Its not nice is it.

This is your Karma.

Blacks and asians could never step foot in your country without being abused and you know it plus your hate for Muslims.
This is a wake up call that nobody cares if you're a white immigrant you're still an immigrant.

nah not all of them we've got on our territory Muslim Tartars for 600 years and we are proud of them. For rest of them we had special gift for newly open mosque can't put the whole fault on us, tip READ YOUR POST

what the question again?you stupid?just asking

From my experience majority of Poles in Poland aren't racist so I suspect it's similar in the UK.
So I'm not sure what you're asking about... Do you mean that some normal non-racist Polish family living in the UK, for example, should suffer some kind of anti-Polish abuse in silence because there are some racist Poles who abuse others? What kind of logic is that?


And you think Poles aren't abused by the English? They are. So maybe that's your "Karma", yes? :)


Whose Karma? Of Poles in general? Are serious? You know, the Nazis had all kinds of "justifications" and "explanations" for the discrimination and persecution of Jews, Slavs and others, so I'd advise you to be careful with such attitude - there still probably are people who believe that what happened to Jews was "Karma" for "killing Jesus" or sth of this sort.


According to BBC in 2015 alone there were about 1,000 attacks on refugee shelters in Germany and in the UK Islamophobic crimes have also increased. I've seen a documentary on BBC about attacks on Muslim women in the UK, even girls are abused at school (one was called "a Taliban child", for example).

bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-34140219

Some fragments from the article:

"The incident took place in a shopping centre in Bristol but no-one helped and it was only after Ms Khan made a public appeal in the media for help to track down the perpetrator that witnesses came forward."

"Ms Begum remembers several people witnessed the incident but, rather than help, some laughed while others turned their backs."

So what now, am I supposed to say that because of all of that and because of what my female Polish friends and acquaintances experienced in the UK - if some British or German will face some kind of xenophobic abuse it's their "Karma"?

And it's those Muslim women's "Karma" to be attacked both verbally and physically, spat at, be thrown things at them and have their veils torn off because other Muslims are killing people of other faiths and world views and abusing and raping women and girls?

Muslims and Indians and Africans also can have pretty dreadful attitude towards women, other castes, different religions so maybe I, as a woman and a Christian, should say that whatever happens to Muslims or Indians or Africans in Poland or in Europe or in the US or wherever is their "Karma"?

You see where it can lead to?

Of course, those Poles who are racists and complain about racism are hypocrites, that's plain and simple and believe me, I really detest hypocrisy. But Poles aren't the only nation on this planet who have hypocrites among them, trust me :)


So let's all of us treat all immigrants with respect, shall we :)

Fact. Sometimes. Sorry to state the truth again , but Poles are oft ignorant as regards other races. It's changing slowly though, even if the Polish government regularly come out with racist comments themselves.

After all, Juncker is right about dictators, even if he was tired and emotional:) And Poles have bad role models, akin to Orban. Sadly the EU seem powerless to impose Article 7 on these crims. (apologies to everyone who has seen this before)

youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

We don't believe you.


We have learnt how to play race card from blacks and asians. Status of victim is a valuable commodity these days.

Hahaha .your own racism is going to backfire on you.how are going to now convince us that you poles don't have rascist DNA huh ?we voted for brexit coz yourkind showed us exactly that rascist poles need to stay where racism is tolerated .

Suppose that also applies to Africans and Asians, can't be an exclusive trait unless of course you are racist yourself ;.). I doubt your intuition reflects the vast masses that happened to vote leave, and that you did not.

I am Polish and I voted for brexit just like other Polish friends of mine, how does that work with your chimpanzee like logic?

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Turkeys voting for Christmas...

Thanks for another example of chimpanzee like logic jon, always around when needed.

There you go again, Wulky, the gift that keeps on giving. A turkey voting for Christmas.

Hahahahahahahah

Lol

You're an immigrant in Engerland and you voted for Brexit???


PF's greatest (unwilling) comedian

Perhaps he is just not a paranoid shrill like many others on here

He's definitely not a shrill, becasue a shrill is defined as:


Maybe you meant shill?
He's also not one of them, nobody is that stupid to pay him

vocal paranoid person if I have to dumb it down for you

Errr I just showed you want you wanted to say, you should be saying thanks.

But, OK, OK, gratitude isn't you thing that's cool.

Unlike you, he doesn't need dictionary to understand English.

Can I just ask you as a English northerner from a Labour heart land why you as a Pole voted Brexit Wulkan.

So as hispanic against uncontrolled immigration in US, I am the in this category? Horsefeathers! (BTW Christmas is not as big a Turkey holocaust as Thanksgiving.)

But this is kinda racist by making the huge presumption that W is not able to acquire a normal visa to stay. Maybe he doesn't need an open border or edict from Brussels to be accepted?

Maybe he is a person not on the doles, who was or is in the viable workforce instead of cheap labor or language instruction?
Maybe he already is citizen in the proper way or has a national spouse?
(I don't remember from his past posts when I was frequent his given "relationship status" but I think he was a younger generation that I)

No, it actually makes him look more articulate. That's one of those weird aspects of the English language that the old foreigners can never quite their heads round:)

Does it? that's good then, he clearly needs something that improves his image.


What difference does it make that I'm a Pole? I live in the UK so I care about this country too.

Fair enough !

Brexit !!!!!!!!

That's the spirit!

Fair enough. Why is it then that expats in Poland are vehemently opposed by a certain group of people here on PF when they say exactly the same about your country?

This is about the Brexit vote, not about local issues in other parts of the world.


Right-wing whingers.

What he's doing is what I've been saying all along. Immigrants to the UK are the biggest racists of all. They are absolutely mortified when some of their countrymen are inclined to join them, and they will do everything in their power to stop them:))

A notable exception were the West Indians in the 1950s:)

Brexit spells Dumbo - and it wont prevent freedom of movement, which I think was the main NeoCon and "working man's" viewpoint.

I am mixed race black/white and I have never had an issue with polish people.
Czech republic I have had issues with.
Romanians can be rude and lack manners.
Lithuania arent bad but I know black male friends had issues with them.
Russians are the WORSE

But poles nope.

Actually I think the worse incident I have had was with an Austrian group of guys, I work in a bar/club they came in and we were trying to sell them to the VIP area.

They said they didnt want one of my friends because she was black.
They asked if I was asian (because if i was it would of been okay) but no I said mixed then they didnt want me either.

And they said our other friend who was from Iran was "borderline" but okay lol

Funny incident because the Iranian girl and the two white girls they took in their ended up ripping them off because they were racist lol

You were trying to sell them?? I'm not surprised they didn't want to be friends with you!

There is some hypocrisy in play. But not all Poles think the exact same or have the same exact experiences. But I will always back the Native population