Do Poles and EU Citizens exploit the British welfare state

Well, I don't know about you but I currently live in a land pouted by British Petroleum.

I think there is a big difference between Mexicans in the US and Polish in GB. Polish have a right to be there as far as the law is concerned. Many Mexicans come here illegally.

Centuries ago?
Iran? Iraq? Kosovo?
Man, timeflies. Seems like just a few years ago that scumbag Blair lied to the whole world.


Are you talking about the USA, the land plundered by Brits, who anihilaed so much often native population before they were kicked out by even greedier Brits? Well, I don't live in that disgusting place. I moved out a long time ago. Whenever I go to the US, prolly once a month, it is to an Indian reservation nearby to buy smokes and to support their tax free economy and cassinos. I like them Injuns and I'm glad the Brits didn't manage to kill them all.

And... ? You would expect them to move out of the country on the next day after they are made redundant ?

Yes it has been in the news

This has been covered by the press, the below articles are reactions from the EU and and Polish ambassador.

dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/attitude_to_poles_borders_on_d.php
dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/02/eu_warns_the_netherlands_on_po.php

Ya, the very next day!!! lol

People who go on welfare have a habit of never getting off it. If you lose your job you should receive 6 months of benefits, not a lifetime of food stamps and free housing. After 6 months they should have to do some sort of community service, such as picking up trash along the Hi-way etc... You would be surprised how many people get off the system then!

Of course it doesnt help very much in the USA when you have Illegals sneaking over the border just to have an anchor baby and collect benefits.

Thats one law the US needs to abolish!!

you mean, like in Germany ? :-)


really fast too

Polish have a right to be in GB and collect unemployment benefits. It’s the law over there. If the law is being abused or compromised for some reason, the government should take some kind of corrective actions.

I’m guessing that either you guys vote for the wrong people or the issue is not really high on your Government’s priority list.

There's a substantial difference between illegals here and Polish in GB... So please don’t compare Polish in GB to illegal immigrants in the US!

Havok

Sure, there's a difference, but one can't blame the Brits if they're pissed off.

The way the system is now, anyone can just jump on a plane in Bielsko Biala or some other shithole, get off in Stansted, then run and collect bennies.

Insane.

Bingo. Why aren't any of the parties running on a platform to reform the welfare system?

In my opinion there should be no public benefits at all. I was just pointing out that If you give people the right to claim them, It's not surprising many actually do that.



Fascinating. Do you want me to post links to news about Dutch pedophiles raping children around thw world ? It wouldn't be a short list.


I really love It. When Polish media say that for example Gypsies are stealing a lot, immediately some "expat" or some other homo publish it here as a proof of Polish nationalism/xenophobia/Catholic fascism etc. when Poles are on the opposite side... well It's all their fault of course even If that some stuff about eating stuff or some other nonsense.

It's not the polish immigrants that should be the adresee of your list of greviences, but the government body that actually sets the rules in GB. I mean, just like Grzegorz already pointed out, you don't abuse a systrem if you are entitled for the benefits. I guess that because of the american problem with illegal mexicans you have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to immigrants.

But they do abuse the system in the U.S. when they are entitled to benefits, believe me. California had to create a law so that people who collect welfare to buy food and clothes can no longer use their free money on things like psychics, massages, cruise ships, casinos, etc. because that's what they were doing. Meanwhile, people who work hard all day can't afford to go on cruises and have massages or gamble their money away.

Point being is that Californian government noticed the abuse and you've changed the law. If you're still missing the point please re-read my original post ...

GB should do the same, if they feel that their unemployment benefit system is being abused.

To all you Polish in GB:
you jumped in a wishing well, now I wish you well
tell 'em to kiss your ass, call it kiss and tell

One more piece of Polonophobic hate from delusional American idiot calling himself (repulsively) "sledz"? What a hopeless racist cretin.

Facts seem to show it is the British who have been ripping off the Polish and other post-communist migrant workers. And now, after having exploited them to the full, they are kicking them out and attempting to talk into the world (and themselves) that they are doing it because the Poles have been ripping off the British. The top British politicians - Cameron and Miliband - seem to be using the Poles for their own ugly political ends, that is to flatter the voters, to divert the latter's attention from the real British issues (such as the Third World "multiculturalism"), to direct the British rabble's hate at convenient scapegoats, that is the Poles (and other "East Europeans", but the hate seems mostly to hit the Poles, because it is they who are most frequently mentioned by name in the English media). If one looks at the history of Britain one perhaps can find more examples of similar British behavior toward target groups. Didn't the British carry out pogroms of the colored soldiers who fought for Britain in WWI and after the war stayed there?

Because there's not enough jobs in Britain to reform the welfare system.

watch out for the bnp u polish scroungers

Of course, they follow the example of the British

puzzler?

No, they didn't. Want to talk about pogroms in Poland after the end of WWI?

WTF are you BS about again ?

at last an informed and sensible point....:)

Oh and "Krynski"...Miliband IS Polish BTW...

Bit like the damn Americans who come to Europe and just nip across a border to renew their tourist visa... It's so funny watching them panic as they EU widens and they find themselves deeper and deeper into Schengen and nowhere to just nip over the border to...


How about they have been using Polish et al to allow them to rip off their own British workers, who do not have an option about whether to stay or go home? How about the banks etc giving benficial rates to the incomers which long term reasidents and natives of UK can't get?

How about the fact that a section of the Black community in UK saw the influx of Europeans as a deliberate attempt to "re-whiten" UK, whilst denying visas to commonwealth citizens from Africa etc?


Care to give us a link? UK has had non-white communities and citizens for centuries. There have been Arab communites in north England for over a century. We have had non-white MPs for years... And look what happens on this board when Poland has a Black member of the sejm.

I think a better example for you to cite would be the "Polacy go Home" campaign after WW2.

All in all, Britain really must be such a nasty place that all these internationals come to live and work when we keep hearing everywhere else is sooooo much better. Next you'll be telling us the nasty, horrible British are going around with big nets, catching poor, innocent, oh-so-holy foreigners and forcing them to come and work in UK...

How about moaning about Poles, when in fact they should moan about their own government.

Do you mean these foreigners who are so evidently in love with all things British?

We do. We only elect a new one because we get bored moaning about the old one.


You are assuming they are foreigners and not British muslims. And yes, if someone is born in UK, I consider them a citizen. However, even if they are foreigners, did UK force them to come? I'm sure they enjoy a right to protest which would have had a few swords swinging back home, as well as all the welfare handouts which Britain wants to give them (thus depriving the Polish of theirs ;-))

Loot what you can from a sinking ship! I hope more Poles will exploit the British welfare system!

Well, with all the jobs being shifted from UK to Poland, i reckon more brits will be coming over to try it here.

Enjoy Polands "welfare system" if you know what i mean ^^

I sometimes ponder taking Polish nationality and moving to UK...

Since you giving it away so willingly what's the whole fuss about? Just give it away and shut up