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How long would it take for an English style restaurant in Poland to go bust?


Harry  
28 Oct 2010 /  #61
But - tell you what, the office sandwich market isn't very big here at all. You know what I mean - people coming round to sell sandwiches.

Really? In this building we have three guys coming round every day with sandwiches and one guy with sushi.
Cardno85  31 | 971  
28 Oct 2010 /  #62
Lucky bugger!
Wroclaw  44 | 5359  
28 Oct 2010 /  #63
Every time i walk by there i see a massive line up. Good "home cooked" food and reasonable prices.

i've seen the same.

if bolle doesn't mind. it's midway between the hala targowa and galeria.... on a corner.

but my experience of starbucks are that they are sh1te

and that's why u should take their customers. they are located just off plac grunwaldzki. an area full of students
THE HITMAN  - | 236  
28 Oct 2010 /  #64
they like (well, love) bread

I,ve been to quite a few festivals, concerts etc, and noticed bread and smalec along with a soured gherkin is a good hit.
Irisz  - | 2  
28 Oct 2010 /  #65
From my point of view, it will be better if you would consider:
1) Who will be your objective people? Businessmen, students, tourists, etc?
2) The style of your resaurant?
3) Your objective people will lead the the pricing, I think. And how about the gross margin you would like to get?
4) Your objective people also will lead the location. How many your objective people will pass by your restaurant?
OP chefneedshelp  2 | 37  
28 Oct 2010 /  #66
agreed but in order to do that I need to find what is the most in demand over there who spends the money where and why
Cardno85  31 | 971  
28 Oct 2010 /  #67
Irisz
Maybe you need to learn the difference between target and objective (when dealing with customers). I am no grammar nazi but your entire post mad no sense. It took me 10 minutes to decifer it.
poland_  
28 Oct 2010 /  #68
I need to find what is the most in demand over there who spends the money

I believe a big hit would be, "salads, soups and wraps", made from fresh local produce, open kitchen, a few tables and a takeaway hatch, here is a company I know in Amsterdam, its all funky soups that you would normally only get in specialist restaurants.

The Poles have been brought up on soups and if you package it in a similar manner to the coffee chic, it will sell.

Summer, heavy on salad and wraps
Winter, heavy on soups and wraps
Chicago Pollock  7 | 503  
29 Oct 2010 /  #69
Just curious, a question for the group: when in England I love English pubs and yes, pub food. Would that work in Poland?
Teffle  22 | 1318  
29 Oct 2010 /  #70
pub food.

Depends what you mean I suppose. Doesn't tend to be too much variety in what I would regard as pub food. Also, the term tends to be used as a derogatory one e.g. criticising the standards of a restaurant as bing "like pub food".

Among English speakers, somewhere advertising Pub Food woyuldn't exactly excite them.
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Oct 2010 /  #71
Also, the term tends to be used as a derogatory one e.g. criticising the standards of a restaurant as bing "like pub food".

Not in my opinion British pub food is usually great, a wide selection of traditional English. The big chains have pretty much sown up the market - regardless they knock out good quality food.

BBQ Ribs
£9.99
A whole rack of BBQ pork ribs served with extra BBQ sauce, chips and coleslaw.

Beef Burger
£6.75
A 6oz** burger made from 100% prime beef in a toasted bun with sliced tomato, salad leaves and mayonnaise. Served with chips, battered onion rings and coleslaw. (Add an Extra Beef Burger for £1.00 or Cheese and Bacon Topping for £0.75)

Chicken Burger
£6.99
A whole grilled chicken breast in a toasted bun with sliced tomato, salad leaves and mayonnaise. Served with chips, battered onion rings and coleslaw.Add Cheese and Bacon Topping for £0.75.

Grilled Gammon Steak
£6.99
Topped with either two fried eggs, two grilled pineapple slices or one of each. Served with chips, garden peas, half a grilled tomato and pan-fried mushrooms.

Thats just the grill menu from brewersfayre.co.uk/food/details/?id=1
Teffle  22 | 1318  
29 Oct 2010 /  #72
Not in my opinion British pub food is usually great,

Sure, I get you - but it doesn't change the fact that the term is often used dismissively, regardless of the actual quality - which may be good, bad or indifferent.

That's my impression anyway.

Marketing-wise, based on the term alone, I wouldn't be so sure that pub food is the way to go.
orford777  - | 3  
29 Oct 2010 /  #73
Keep posting your thoughts. I'd be curious to people's opinions. I've moved to Wroclaw recently and I was in the restaurant biz for many years in the US. I'm always interested in comments on the local food scene. Good luck and bon appetit.
garry  - | 6  
29 Oct 2010 /  #74
as an Englishman (although half French) who spends about 6 months a year in Wroclaw, I have noticed that Poles are fairly conservative about food, but when you cook for them and they try something good they like it..so getting them through the door would be the big challenge. But generally avoid any connection with English about food, it has only bad vibes here unless you are selling tea. But seems there would be room here for some new places if they have an edge and something to get people through the door.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
29 Oct 2010 /  #75
Really? In this building we have three guys coming round every day with sandwiches and one guy with sushi.

Sushi? Just goes to show that Warsaw is years ahead of the rest of the country ;)
Maybe  12 | 409  
29 Oct 2010 /  #76
Sushi?

There are loadsa place to eat Sushi in Gdansk, Gdynia and Sopot
poland_  
29 Oct 2010 /  #77
Poles from my experience like coffee sorry to offend any one but my experience of starbucks are that they are sh1te

You can not think with an Irish/English head, Starbucks have recently arrived in Poland, so it should enlighten you, about your future market. Sh1te UK is trendy in PL.
Amathyst  19 | 2700  
29 Oct 2010 /  #78
From an English persons perspective (tourist who has visited Wraclaw) - its got some excellent little restaurants, for me it knocked spots off Krakow (no offence to Krakow) - so you have some very tough competition. Im not one to go for the whole "lets find somewhere English to eat" but there are those that do..Im sure ex-pats would love it..nothing like a taste of home..

I think this is a good idea:

English speaking staff might be a novelty value especially if you opened near a University.

But remember English speaking might mean they're from Asia so stew and dumplings and shephards pie on the menu might not go down so well...

I think to get locals in you have to be competitive (no different to the UK these days) and have an edge of what's already there...small menu with a mix of Polish traditional and English traditional dishes....perfect!

Thats not a bad idea, you have two types in the UK - the stationary burger vans (they usually knock out great cheese burgers)

You mean cheap "barely legal burgers" that only people who've had at least 10 pints will drink?
Wroclaw Boy  
30 Oct 2010 /  #79
You mean cheap "barely legal burgers" that only people who've had at least 10 pints will drink?

You dont drink a cheeseburger!!

No, you obviously have never eaten a typical Polish cheeseburger Shelley, although sounds like you have eaten plenty of British ones after 10 pints.

Good burger vans do a storming trade in the UK.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
30 Oct 2010 /  #80
There are loadsa place to eat Sushi in Gdansk, Gdynia and Sopot

Same here, most of them absolutely dire. I absolutely hate this Polish obsession with "atmosphere" - get the food right first!

But I've never seen anyone selling sushi in office buildings :)

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