Poland continues to milk Ireland dry.

I hope that you did not waste them, and made them into a sandwich the next morning. In some countries this is considered a delicasy!

You mean Failte Ireland. I work in the hospitality sector. I could write a book on them cock suckers.

I went to a "Managing Diversity" workshop 18 months ago, hosted by the good people of Filte Ireland, with 12 others, all foreigners. To top it all off, the ***** giving the two day workshop was a northern prod.

That line says it all.

What?

Not the best person in the country be doing that sort of job.....did you pass the course ??


what the feck has religion to do with it?

I have a masters degree in Hospitality & Catering Management. I can teach the subject, you idiot. You seem to be struggling with employment law, maybe you should send yourself on a course.

Soft subject. Did you not get enough points in your leaving cert ?


Dont profess to be. That is what we pay a HR manager for and levies to IBEC.

Says the meat packer!!!

Says the guy with a job.

Yeah I packed meat from the age of 8. My father was a butcher and had his own shop and I followed the trade. Went to Uni and got a Degree in Agriculture and Food Science. Went on to work for the Department of Agriculture as Veterinary Meat Inspector before becoming an Operations Managers with 15 managers under me and employing 220 people.

Im proud of where I have came from and where I am today.

Fair play.

Obviously you have done such a good job that Ireland looked so appealing to all those damn foreigners that they decided not only to visit but to stay ;D


I'll second that.

Personal opinion goes out the window when I am working. I actually get on quite well with foreigners. I treat them just as well as Irish workers.

Post of the night so far.......hypocracy wins yet again.

Slan go foil my fellow posters. I go to sleep now for a new day dawns soon for those of us who keep the wheels of this great nation turning.

Oiche mhaith.

Poland continues to milk Ireland dry.

Is it lowfat or skim milk? Perhaps in Revoke's mind it's buttermilk.

Heres one for ya, my Yank amigo. A sampling of Children's Allowance found an 800% greater incidence of fraud among eastern europeans. The fraud level among eastern europeans was 13% compared to circa 1.5% among Irish nationals.

What is the moral of the story? That eastern european cultural enrichers are 800% more likely to be involved in benefit fraud than the natives.

Source; irishtimes.com

Merged: 'We don't feel that we are strangers here!'

Partyka and his family count themselves among the 122,585 Polish-born people living in Ireland - a figure almost 94 per cent greater than that revealed in the last census figures from 2006.

Well, well, well. Where are those whom poured scorn on me when I claimed the census figures of 2006 were wholly inaccurate?

The census will 16' will start to reflect the true numbers of Polish in Ireland.

I reckon there are 200-250,000.

Il be proved right, too.

it seems the majority arrived pre-2008.

So, why the increase in the number of Poles by some 94%.

Il tell you why. Immigrants are weary of government forms.

In 2006, most worked. Now, they realised that they are entitled to welfare payments. Most cannot believe their luck. No need to be scared of the government anymore, they house, feed, clothe and pay you to do sweet foook all.

As time grows, more Poles will deal with social welfare, loss the fear of government paperwork and will fill in the forms for the next census.

However, he has experienced some rare instances of xenophobia where people have said: "We don't accept you, go back" - just a few situations.

This lads is a liar. An ungrateful one at that. Irish people us the word to accept tangible things and apologies. Nothing else. No Irish person would tell someone that they do not accept them. The might tell them to go home, to go away, to foook off, but not that they dont accept them.

So, he is a liar.

Due to health reasons and the economic downturn, however, neither he nor his wife are now working.

There is a shock. On the sick and in the country a wet day. Nice one.

"I had the opportunity to go back to college, which I wouldn't have in Poland.

Great stuff. We got to put her through college too.

Maybe she was in the same college as her compatriot, Magda!

However, he says immigrants are more positive about the economic situation than the Irish themselves.

Of course, fooking of course. If Irish people were in a foreign nation, earning multiples of what they would at home in Ireland, for sitting at home and doing courses, they too would be optimistic.

He notes some outward migration among Poles, but says the numbers are small.

Where is Torq? He told me the vast, vast majority of Poles would have left by now.

He says the census may not fully reflect the number of Polish people living here

No way? Shocker, that!

Well, I guess I can say I have been proved right.

Full breakdown of numbers here,

119,526: Number of people who speak Polish at home; of that figure 10,573 were born in Ireland

94%: The increase in Polish-born people living in Ireland between the 2006 and 2011 censuses

55,584: Polish-born women living in Ireland - a 240 per cent increase on 2006

Number of Polish nationals grew by 94%

The Poles, like the Irish, seem to be a nation of emigrants. Maybe all the Irish living in England should "foook off back to ireland" to leech off the irish government instead of the British one? No, they shouldn't, why should they. They have worked and paid their taxes and NI contributions and are entitled to claim what is rightfully theirs just as the Poles in Ireland are entitled to do so. So Mr Revoke, before you jump on your "all immigrants go home" bandwagon, just think about all the Irish all over the world and remember they are also immigrants in someone else's country.

Hipis, I applaud your attempts to rebut Revoke with a sound, reasoned argument. Unfortunately, you are barking up the wrong tree. Revokenice is a bad person. If he holds a single redeeming quality, he has yet to share it with this forum. And that includes the ability to reason.

The Poles living in Ireland are there legally and are not immigrants. They are exercising their right as European Union citizens along with their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States. That is the law.

The same cannot be said of actual Irish immigrants who have gone abroad:

And the news article I cited is from 2007 - around the same time that is the focus of complaints about Polish numbers starting to grow in Ireland.

Very true.


Except of course those who have migrated either within the European Union (including of course Poland) or to the UK between 1916 and EU accession.

Why would an Irish person remain on the dole in england when the dole is three times higher in Ireland?


I want the Irish to return. I hope they are kicked out.


If you cannot provide for yourself and find a job within three months, you can be legally repatriated. They are not legally protected by the EU, once the three months lapses. They should be repatriated.


Deport them. And we deport the 40,000 poles on welfare here. Great stuff. A double whammy. Decrease in planters, increase in indigenous Irish.

plenty of them RN.....
somebody I know thought he would return 'home' but found as a disabled person the facilities and services for him were far better in UK...so back he came telling tales of disgust with his 'homeland' which was, in his words, 'awash with heroin and greedy feckers'.

Maybe that's why....?
Also, has it ever occurred to you that so many Irish leave because they do not like it there?

If Irish people are fleecing the system in your country you can do to them what you please.

Jail them.

Deport them.

Make them clean the streets until their bill is paid.

I really dont care what you do to them.


One example. The dole for someone on disability is around 200 euro a week, plus a nice house, plus clothing allowance, plus phone allowance, plus heating allowance, plus a load of others.

What sort of shmuck would leech over in the UK on a third of that when they can get much more at home?

He complains of heroin use, which is definitely a scourge in Dublins working class areas, then moves to the UK where it is even more rampant?

What is his disability? Failed lobotomy?


Not true. The weather is garbage alright. Too many do gooders too. Thats about it

someone who feels more at home in London cos Ireland is full of showers and douchebags like you, I guess. I know plenty of them.


good argument RN, very good.

London is a cesspit. Absolute kip of a place. My football manager used to bring us over there once a year to watch the PL. Hated the place.

Takes all sorts, I suppose.

Anyway, Ireland and the UK has a bit more of a history than Ireland and Poland.

We never asked for reparations or an apology. So taking a few of ours is the least you can do!

You gave us 900,000 rather troublesome folk too, remember!


If he was a smart leech, he would claim the disability in Ireland too! Pop over and collect once a month.

In 2010 an OAP was caught on the scam. He was flying in from Thailand every so often to collect. He was over there living a playboy lifestyle. He got away with it for over a decade!!!!

haha true!

That really tickled me, if England were to repatriate everyone with Irish heritage, whites would be in a miniorty ;0) You can have the gypos back though..


Nothing funny about benefit cheats!

how true....

Obviously not all of them.

I know of many Americans, for example, whom would love to relocate to Ireland but cant due to it being extremely difficult to prove Irish heritage, thus, not being able to claim citizenship.

If you are not an asylum scammer and want to go through the correct avenues, its quite hard to get in here, from outside the EU.

Poland's minister for European affairs said in Dublin yesterday that a second Irish No to the Nice Treaty would be "a huge and terrible disappointment" for Poles...

Poles did most of their migration in the past decade and there is no potential for a new outflow. "They are returning home for new work opportunities; it is even difficult to get them to move between different regions of their own country when these become available."

Irish Times 06 September 2002
A second No would 'disappoint' Poland
by Paul Gillespie

Hmmmm. First they werent going to come, then just for a year or two to save some cash. Now its, well, this is our home.

Liars.